PakGamers Forum Update (Must Read)

[bravoguy]

We are really very usedto the current style so will be difficult to accept any changes......

 

[DEXT3R]

1)Thanks for the feedback, but I really hope that you see how you have just highlighted the problem yourself. It is not about you caring about console or not, its about isolation from other users. This attitude that PC/console guys dont need to interact or know about console/Pc game is what I was talking about in the above post. Maybe some console user has some insight that you find interesting regarding a game you like, maybe visa versa.
I hope I was better in relaying my message to you.

2) In Gaming Central we will be implementing tags i.e like the ones you see in marketplace stating WTB/WTS/WTT, instead they will be saying PC or Xbox or PS or nintendo and you can decide to view whichever thread you want.

I'm not against the change or saying it won't work, but worried about issues which we are going to face after the change, all the topics will be at one place, sometimes we come to PG just to find a specific review or title which we are interested in, and PG Search Engine is already the worst search engine i have ever seen, please fix that first and than move to more advance features that's all i'm saying, if you guys are introducing tags in Gaming Central then definitely we need better browsing solutions for quick and advance search. which must be optimized according to latest standards.

Thanks.

 

[armada]

Bring vb6 and please allow user to select lite colored theme

 

[NaNoW]

I'm not against the change or saying it won't work, but worried about issues which we are going to face after the change, all the topics will be at one place, sometimes we come to PG just to find a specific review or title which we are interested in, and PG Search Engine is already the worst search engine i have ever seen, please fix that first and than move to more advance features that's all i'm saying, if you guys are introducing tags in Gaming Central then definitely we need better browsing solutions for quick and advance search. which must be optimized according to latest standards.

Thanks.

Implementation tags will allow users to search threads based on specific threads. The search engine optimization within PG is completely different issue, which shouldve been mentioned in feedback and suggestion thread, not on a different idea being present here.

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Bring vb6 and please allow user to select lite colored theme

This is not a general feedback and suggestion thread. We have an entire section for that. This thread was made as an announcement and feedback on that specific announcement.
Also I remember a year or two back a lite colored theme was introduced as an alternate, which was shunned by a majority of PG users.

 

[iNF3RN0]

PG Search Engine is already the worst search engine i have ever seen, please fix that first and than move to more advance features

Did you ever tried the "ADVANCE SEARCH" option? it provide a lot of filters which are more than enough to find the specific topic, furthermore tags will be there which can be used within the search and during the browsing just like the marketplace.

 

[Chandoo]

Change is good, PG forum as it is right now has too many subsections. A little spring cleaning was in order.

Good job guys.

 

[Nomad]

I keep my casual and formal clothes in different sections of the cabinet. Not because I can't differentiate between them, but because it makes it a lot easier and faster for me to get what I want.

PG does require some changes, but merging everything under one section is not the solution in my opinion. Different sections are there to keep things organized, not to promote fanboyism. Has there never been any fanboy fight within General Gaming section? I mean going be the logic of clubbing everything within one section to stop fanboy wars, there should have been no such incident within same section, right?

There used to be multiple requests from users to create new sections for topics of their interest. Most of such requests were ignored as impractical or due to user group being too small. But other such requests resulted in new sections like Visual Arts & Photography, Unboxing zone, Automobile club etc. The reason for creation of all these sections was to keep things organized and not get everything jumbled up in Chitchat section. Now, PG has space for these sections to organize their data, but not for gaming, the primary purpose of this community?

You can merge everything related to gaming within one section for any management or organizational reasons, but citing curbing out fanboyism as one of the reasons is simply wrong. This will actually increase instances of fanboy wars in my opinion. For example, no PC gamer is currently bothered by frequent postings in any console exclusive thread by fanboys of that franchise as the PC gamer would not have even seen that thread. But after this change, he'll not only see this thread every time, he'll also be bothered by it as it will push threads/topics he is interested in to the bottom/ next pages. Don't you think he'll be more likely to tell fans of that franchise to stop their love affair with a guy in a helmet and get on with their lives then he is now?

Why do you think there were multiple sections created within the marketplace?

I know there are too many sections on PG right now and things can be organized in a better way. But this is not the answer in my opinion. We have sections like Phadeybaaz for god-sake. Organize these sections like Phadeybaaz, The Vault, Clans room in their respective gaming sections instead of merging everything in gaming sections and leaving these sections as it is. Why not create a single creativity section on the front and make things like Members submission, PG webcomics, PG podcasts, Visual Arts, Software development as subsections only accessible after entering the main creativity section? Front page of PG needs to be cleaned, but do that by removing these small and, dare I say, irrelevant sections instead of making it difficult for the gamers to find what they are looking for.

Do we really believe that promoting fanboyism is the reason why major gaming related sites organize data in platform based sections?

 

[Pleasant]

Well i also one of the few person who thinks merging all the thread in general gaming section will clutter up it will become hard to find threads what i noticed pc gaming section is bit slow paced section you don't get too much activity as consoles so the thread will go deep down because of console gaming thread frequency and you will start to see ppl asking to bring back the old settings and it will be way to hard to revert back to old

 

[CerebralTiger]

I keep my casual and formal clothes in different sections of the cabinet. Not because I can't differentiate between them, but because it makes it a lot easier and faster for me to get what I want.

That analogy doesn't quite work here.

Organization helps when you need to search for stuff on a regular basis, but browsing a forum is not just about searching for a specific kind of thread and seeking help in relation to your queries. It's also about discovery. People who stick to a particular gaming section are relatively uninterested and unaware of the games being discussed in another section. A unified 'Gaming Central' section means that every member of PG who's interested in gaming would gain awareness about games that may not have been on their radar. In turn, this also serves to increase interaction between members who would otherwise prefer to stick to their platform-specifc sections.

We are all gamers, at the end of the day. Associating oneself to a particular platform and section only serves to fuel the fanboy drivel that ultimately boils into the general gaming section, which is what happens on PG these days. We need to look past our favorite platforms and enjoy games for what they are.

For example, no PC gamer is currently bothered by frequent postings in any console exclusive thread by fanboys of that franchise as the PC gamer would not have even seen that thread. But after this change, he'll not only see this thread every time, he'll also be bothered by it as it will push threads/topics he is interested in to the bottom/ next pages. Don't you think he'll be more likely to tell fans of that franchise to stop their love affair with a guy in a helmet and get on with their lives then he is now?

People who are so easily bothered by activity in threads that don't interest them can use the search function to filter out threads relevant to them. Not only are such people in the minority, but they're also a part of the problem.

Why do you think there were multiple sections created within the marketplace?

Because it is a section where people buy/sell stuff, as opposed to the gaming sections which are about discussion. Being able to search threads quickly is of the utmost importance in the Marketplace, which isn't the primary objective of the gaming sections. Of course, gaming-related search queries are also important, for which we will have a revised search mechanism in place. NanoW has touched upon that in the OP.

Do we really believe that promoting fanboyism is the reason why major gaming related sites organize data in platform based sections?

Websites promote content for every platform on their front end portal. You're given the option to filter out news stories for specific platforms, and with the help of the search function, PG members will also be able to do the same.

Also, there's a difference between a site that covers news stories and a forum that discusses them. Major gaming forums like Neogaf ditched platform-specific sections long ago.

 

[Ottoman]

@Nomad I think you're nitpicking here. Fanboyism isn't the reason Gaming sections are being merged. The main area of concern is lack of participation and isolation of the community of gamers. The biggest plus point I see by merging the Gaming sections is that it will make the owner of one specific platform aware of what's being achieved on a rival platform.

A PC gamer may have no reason to visit the Nintendo section but he may start taking an active interest in the platform upon discovering its content under a single roof. Clicking on a "Mario Kart" thread out of pure curiosity for instance. Something "hard-core" gamers dismiss as cartoonish and child-like due to ignorance based upon isolation and disinterest. There is so much potential news and threads that get ignored because they're posted in a section most people don't visit or care about.

I also disagree with the notion of finding similarities between Gaming Sections and Automobile, Photography, Sports sections etc. The latter are specialized fields completely irrelevant to each other, hence why they are organized separately on the forum.

Trolls will be trolls and fanboys will be fanboys. One section or one hundred, they will always be present.

 

[NaNoW]

I keep my casual and formal clothes in different sections of the cabinet. Not because I can't differentiate between them, but because it makes it a lot easier and faster for me to get what I want.

Yet you have one closet, you open the closet door and you can view all your options. Thus,we will have tags. You would be able to search accordingly.

Fanboyism is one of many reasons why we came up with that, but not the only reason. Members active participation into secondary/tertiary preferences is one of major reasons aswell. Maybe my announcement post came off as too anti fanboyish.

You can merge everything related to gaming within one section for any management or organizational reasons, but citing curbing out fanboyism as one of the reasons is simply wrong. This will actually increase instances of fanboy wars in my opinion. For example, no PC gamer is currently bothered by frequent postings in any console exclusive thread by fanboys of that franchise as the PC gamer would not have even seen that thread. But after this change, he'll not only see this thread every time, he'll also be bothered by it as it will push threads/topics he is interested in to the bottom/ next pages. Don't you think he'll be more likely to tell fans of that franchise to stop their love affair with a guy in a helmet and get on with their lives then he is now?

I am sorry but I really cant agree with this statement. I have yet to see where keeping people divided into sections have brought along a community. I thought segregation ended in America when slavery was abolished. Having a diverse background is an advantage not a bad thing. If a 'xyz' gamer cant co-exist with -enter platform name- gamer, then that guy needs to learn tolerance and accept people with different choices. This is such a logical statement that I fail to see how can anyone dispute it.

Again thread TAGs will satisfy the need of someone who is pathologically sooo bothered by the existences of gamers with inclinations other than his/herself (In my personal opinion these kinda people create friction and should be dealt with accordingly).

There used to be multiple requests from users to create new sections for topics of their interest. Most of such requests were ignored as impractical or due to user group being too small. But other such requests resulted in new sections like Visual Arts & Photography, Unboxing zone, Automobile club etc. The reason for creation of all these sections was to keep things organized and not get everything jumbled up in Chitchat section. Now, PG has space for these sections to organize their data, but not for gaming, the primary purpose of this community?

We can catagorize data in many ways, but having one general gaming section is better for community. PG is a gaming community first, thus we should have one umbrella, where we should gather, that is Gaming. Rest of the sections are not our primary interests.

Think of it like this..
'X likes gaming and cars',
'Y likes gaming and automobiles,
'Z likes gaming and movies'..

Division of community on basis of platform or console defeats the primary purpose of community.

Why do you think there were multiple sections created within the marketplace?

Marketplace is a different ball game. It has its own rules and regulations. It is not a discussion platform, and one of its purpose is not to 'bring everyone closer' or gather diverse ideas in one place.

I know there are too many sections on PG right now and things can be organized in a better way. But this is not the answer in my opinion. We have sections like Phadeybaaz for god-sake. Organize these sections like Phadeybaaz, The Vault, Clans room in their respective gaming sections instead of merging everything in gaming sections and leaving these sections as it is. Why not create a single creativity section on the front and make things like Members submission, PG webcomics, PG podcasts, Visual Arts, Software development as subsections only accessible after entering the main creativity section? Front page of PG needs to be cleaned, but do that by removing these small and, dare I say, irrelevant sections instead of making it difficult for the gamers to find what they are looking for.

You are correct here. Some spring cleaning of sections/subsections is in order. And it is a part of process we will be looking into.
We also have development on the front page front, which we will share with everyone as more headway is made into that particular project.

 

[Nomad]

That analogy doesn't quite work here.

Well, it works a lot better than comparing current system to slavery

Organization helps when you need to search for stuff on a regular basis, but browsing a forum is not just about searching for a specific kind of thread and seeking help in relation to your queries.

Err..... Isn't this what forums are for?

Associating oneself to a particular platform and section only serves to fuel the fanboy drivel that ultimately boils into the general gaming section, which is what happens on PG these days. We need to look past our favorite platforms and enjoy games for what they are.

So basically what YOU have been doing is due to separate sections and your fanboyism will die when all sections are merged? If that's the case then sure, do it ASAP

People who are so easily bothered by activity in threads that don't interest them can use the search function to filter out threads relevant to them. Not only are such people in the minority, but they're also a part of the problem.

Nope. People who make it their life's mission to find and post only bad things about competing platforms are the real problem.

Also, there's a difference between a site that covers news stories and a forum that discusses them. Major gaming forums like Neogaf ditched platform-specific sections long ago.

Oh so Neogaf has done it. I guess there is no choice but to follow them is there?
Neogaf has one single section for everything related to gaming. And how many other sections does it have for everything other than gaming? Just one. They have only two sections and one of them is for gaming. That makes half of their sections related to gaming. On PG we have more than 30 sections. Club everything related to gaming in one single section and we'll still have more than two dozen sections out of which ONLY ONE will be related to gaming.

A PC gamer may have no reason to visit the Nintendo section but he may start taking an active interest in the platform upon discovering its content under a single roof. Clicking on a "Mario Kart" thread out of pure curiosity for instance. Something "hard-core" gamers dismiss as cartoonish and child-like due to ignorance based upon isolation and disinterest. There is so much potential news and threads that get ignored because they're posted in a section most people don't visit or care about.

And where will I find that thread related to Mario Kart when all sections are merged? On page # 3? 4? 34?

I also disagree with the notion of finding similarities between Gaming Sections and Automobile, Photography, Sports sections etc.

When did I say they are similar?

Trolls will be trolls and fanboys will be fanboys. One section or one hundred, they will always be present.

So basically you disagree with NaNoW about this change helping with fanboyism issue. Why argue with me when I'm saying the same thing? Tell this to NaNoW.

I am sorry but I really cant agree with this statement. I have yet to see where keeping people divided into sections have brought along a community. I thought segregation ended in America when slavery was abolished.

Hate to break it to you, it didn't
If bringing people together is the whole purpose then why keep people from automobile, mobile, movies, foodies sections separate? I mean we all travel, we all eat, we all use mobiles, then why not merge all of them in the same section as well so everybody will get together? Let's not differentiate between people and keep everybody together as a single community.
This is such a logical statement that I fail to see how you can dispute it

We can catagorize data in many ways, but having one general gaming section is better for community. PG is a gaming community first, thus we should have one umbrella, where we should gather, that is Gaming. Rest of the sections are not our primary interests.

Yet any newcomer will see that 90% of sections on PG don't have anything to do with gaming.

Marketplace is a different ball game. It has its own rules and regulations. It is not a discussion platform, and one of its purpose is not to 'bring everyone closer' or gather diverse ideas in one place.

I don't know how you and CT missed what I was trying to say. I gave example of marketplace because we were all actively involved in PG matters when this change was made. The sole purpose was that anybody looking for a PC component should not have to go through multiple threads for sale of console games and mobiles and should be able to find things he is looking for more quickly and in a more organized manner. I fail to see how that argument is no longer valid for gaming section.

We also have development on the front page front, which we will share with everyone as more headway is made into that particular project.

THIS. This is one of the reasons why current system is better than one single section. If main website is active and all news is posted there instead of in forums then one section reserved only for discussions might suffice. But currently each and everything is on the forums and merging everything will create a big mess in my opinion.

 

[Ottoman]

And where will I find that thread related to Mario Kart when all sections are merged? On page # 3? 4? 34?

Maybe on the same page as your favourite game?

When did I say they are similar?

The reason for creation of all these sections was to keep things organized and not get everything jumbled up in Chitchat section. Now, PG has space for these sections to organize their data, but not for gaming, the primary purpose of this community?

Gaming is one entity that doesn't require a platform specific section. It's like making a sub-section in Sports Talk for Cricket, Football and WWE when specific threads can solve the issue.

So basically you disagree with NaNoW about this change helping with fanboyism issue. Why argue with me when I'm saying the same thing? Tell this to NaNoW.

Merely pointing out fanboyism isn't the core issue for the proposed change. You seem to have misunderstood the reason behind this thread.

 

[NaNoW]

Hate to break it to you, it didn't

Metaphor. Nomad . metaphor

If bringing people together is the whole purpose then why keep people from automobile, mobile, movies, foodies sections separate? I mean we all travel, we all eat, we all use mobiles, then why not merge all of them in the same section as well so everybody will get together? Let's not differentiate between people and keep everybody together as a single community.

Its not about that we all eat, watch movies ,etc. Its about what you are really interested in. I gave you an example above, I will repeat it again, please read it with an open mind

PG is a gaming community first, thus we should have one umbrella, where we should gather, that is Gaming. Rest of the sections are not our primary interests.

Think of it like this..
'X likes gaming and cars',
'Y likes gaming and automobiles,
'Z likes gaming and movies'..

Division of community on basis of platform or console defeats the primary purpose of community.

When are PakGAMERS.com, gaming is what we do. Having one section where all the topics are present is beneficial on so many different levels. You are focusing far too much on the subject of fanboyism. Activity is going to increase, we will have less moderation issues, quality of threads will rise,etc. We will also have gaming sections available for topics on a particular platform (i.e troubleshooting, hardware, software mods, etc)

I am not gonna type again, a humble request is to read the passage below again (I am also cutting the metaphor out so that it doesnt distract you from point)

I am sorry but I really cant agree with this statement. I have yet to see where keeping people divided into sections have brought along a community. Having a diverse background is an advantage not a bad thing. If a 'xyz' gamer cant co-exist with -enter platform name- gamer, then that guy needs to learn tolerance and accept people with different choices. This is such a logical statement that I fail to see how can anyone dispute it.

Again thread TAGs will satisfy the need of someone who is pathologically sooo bothered by the existences of gamers with inclinations other than his/herself (In my personal opinion these kinda people create friction and should be dealt with accordingly).

Here you said

And where will I find that thread related to Mario Kart when all sections are merged? On page # 3? 4? 34?

Going through page by page is easier, or opening multiple tabs and cluttering your browser, if you are interested in multiple platforms like most people, easier?
Mind you, with former option you can still open multiple pages on multiple tabs if you want.

I don't know how you and CT missed what I was trying to say. I gave example of marketplace because we were all actively involved in PG matters when this change was made. The sole purpose was that anybody looking for a PC component should not have to go through multiple threads for sale of console games and mobiles and should be able to find things he is looking for more quickly and in a more organized manner. I fail to see how that argument is no longer valid for gaming section.

Because marketplace has more repetitive activity than any other gaming sections. There are 50 guys selling xbox, Rams, mobo, Ps3 and etc so segregation in that place is for people to find things faster.
On the other hand most games this generation are multiplatform, having one place to talk about them makes sense.
We have 6 Don bradman cricket threads (4 in PC, 1 xbox and 1 general gaming), and of those 4 in PC most have less than one page activity. It makes sense to put them under one place and let people talk about it together. IF someone wants to create a specific online league for a game he/she will have xbox live, PSN ,etc section for it.

 

[CerebralTiger]

Err..... Isn't this what forums are for?

Err.....gaming forums are primarily for discussion, as I mentioned in my last post. Searching for queries is a part of it, but not the primary purpose. See, this is where your logic doesn't work. Probably why you take so little part in threads where people are discussing news stories or actually talking about games that they're playing (OTs etc.).

So basically what YOU have been doing is due to separate sections and your fanboyism will die when all sections are merged? If that's the case then sure, do it ASAP

Predictable response lol. On the contrary, I'm hoping this will give latent forum goers, such as yourself, the encouragement to actually participate in discussions, as opposed to occasionally seeking opportunities to troll.

Nope. People who make it their life's mission to find and post only bad things about competing platforms are the real problem.

And how does that become their mission in the first place? Like I said earlier, when you isolate or divide people into their own sections, they develop a sense of association to platforms, and hence, animosity towards other platforms. And these are the people who can't stand activity in threads that don't interest them. This is the line of thinking we're looking to eradicate. People need to enjoy games regardless of their favorite platforms.

Oh so Neogaf has done it. I guess there is no choice but to follow them is there?

You're so predictable, Nomad. I brought up Neogaf because YOU tried to play the "major gaming sites" card. We're doing what we're doing because we feel it's best for the community here, not because we're obligated to follow Neogaf.

Neogaf has one single section for everything related to gaming. And how many other sections does it have for everything other than gaming? Just one. They have only two sections and one of them is for gaming. That makes half of their sections related to gaming. On PG we have more than 30 sections. Club everything related to gaming in one single section and we'll still have more than two dozen sections out of which ONLY ONE will be related to gaming.

When did we say anything about not doing anything for the other sections? This is a start. We're focusing on the gaming sections for now, because, as NanoW mentioned, that is our primary focus.

I don't know how you and CT missed what I was trying to say. I gave example of marketplace because we were all actively involved in PG matters when this change was made. The sole purpose was that anybody looking for a PC component should not have to go through multiple threads for sale of console games and mobiles and should be able to find things he is looking for more quickly and in a more organized manner. I fail to see how that argument is no longer valid for gaming section.

And I don't know how you missed the fact that there's a big difference between the two sections. The Marketplace isn't a place where you go for discussion. You go there to search for items that you want to buy/trade. That's all there is to it. The argument isn't valid for gaming sections because (and I've probably said this plenty of times by now) people go there to discuss games and news stories related to them. Platform specific sub-sections for hardware/software queries are still going to be there for people looking to resolve their queries.

Plus. searching for platform-specific queries is still going to be possible through the search function. It's not like we have abandoned it.

THIS. This is one of the reasons why current system is better than one single section. If main website is active and all news is posted there instead of in forums then one section reserved only for discussions might suffice. But currently each and everything is on the forums and merging everything will create a big mess in my opinion.

Completely disagree with this. I fail to see how the main site's activity can impact the unification of the gaming forums in any way, other than helping to generate more activity which is obviously a no-brainer.

 

[Dr Beowulf]

Great outline Nanow.

Like every community platform, change for the good is necessary. And PG needs a facelift bad....wrinkles are starting to show

 

[abobobilly]

[MENTION=2290]Nomad[/MENTION]! I think the idea "in theory" is coming out to be too vague to understand correctly. The rationale behind this idea was totally related to gaming. Since almost all games these days are either Console Exclusives or a Multi-Plat ... having all these discussions in One Single Area won't hurt anyone.

Lets face it, PC Gaming section is literally dead these days, and General Gaming is the one mostly active. So basically, Games Discussions from Console Sections & General Gaming are being combined (including PC Gaming), which will happen in one single section. Furthermore, large amount of Tags (in thread titles) will be introduced, which will be selectable, hopefully (just like in marketplace, where you could "Filter" the threads down) to enable people to find the threads they are looking for.

I understand your reasons though, and yes they are valid. The idea may "seem" as cluttered, but i feel once the implementation is done (which is a very VERY tedious task btw), people may start to appreciate it. Even if not, then it surely can be modified on the basis of your (and the community's) suggestions

As for the other threads related to "Hardware Issues in Consoles", and/or other "Game specific issues" in both PC and Consoles, that part comes later. First, the primary responsibility is organizing the "Discussions".

 

[DEXT3R]

Did you ever tried the "ADVANCE SEARCH" option? it provide a lot of filters which are more than enough to find the specific topic, furthermore tags will be there which can be used within the search and during the browsing just like the marketplace.

Oh c'mon, anyone who comes to PG or visits any other forum knows what is "ADVANCE SEARCH", by looking at my post count or my joining date you should have known better, still the answer to that question "YES", and still i m saying yes its the worst search feature i have ever seen. a few days ago, there was a strange captcha game on that search feature, which asked to pick matching blah blah and match three other blah to some of the blah blah on the right hand blah. lol. and after playing that time-wasting shit search still didn't work and after that i forgot what i was searching p). at least now its working somewhat, but it never gets the accurate results and always gets loads of other non-concerning items, yes i have tried all the other options in there.

After reading all above posts that have been posted. i think you guys have already made the decision to make the change, in that case there was no point of this thread, it should have been just the announcement and the we would have seen the response. but i would still like to weigh in my opinion (Ok not that it matter alot, but just to let you guys know, that i m web-developer since about 3 years now, and ) According to my little knowledge on forums, we are here for productive discussions by the people who have common interest, i have seen no forum who promotes PC gamers to buy consoles and get in to the discussion where you are not needed, its users choice to buy whatever they want and then find ppl of common interest on the forums.

Lets take me as an example(its just my experience, anyone can have other taste and requirements, i'm just explaining me on this forum, why i m here.), i'm a PC gamer, i only like to play games on my PC, OK now there are many reasons why i m not console gamer, don't want to explain those here, many can say other things about me like i m fanboy or whatever, but at the end its my decision, what i want to be, i don't want anyone encouraging me to anything else. what i like about this forum is, whatever i like when i come to this forum i can find that easily in my a specific section and some more which is related to ppl like me, common interests, we can discuss and share thoughts i don't want someone seeing posting our version is better than this and you should try it on ps3, and believe me there will be tons of posts like this on this new change.

From another prospective, when i come to gaming central i don't want to filter my taste-like threads, UI should be user-friendly not, adding extra steps to get what we want. and from technical prospective, we should not put extra search query loads on the server when we don't have to, search query always put the maximum loads on the server coz it has to get related results from all the possible matches, means extra work for server to do. p.s once again, our search feature, not desirable.

I m not saying that if you guys have decided to do it, scrap your idea based on our opinion, we are just saying if you are doing something do it like it helps the users not increase their hectic to find what they want. i strongly agree with the many views of nomad, especially, cleaning out small old non-gaming related sections, our forum should be about gaming and other activities related not the other way around.

Regards.

 

[CerebralTiger]

After reading all above posts that have been posted. i think you guys have already made the decision to make the change, in that case there was no point of this thread, it should have been just the announcement and the we would have seen the response.

No point of having this thread? You say it like a majority of the members in this thread are opposing the change.

i have seen no forum who promotes PC gamers to buy consoles and get in to the discussion where you are not needed, its users choice to buy whatever they want and then find ppl of common interest on the forums.

No one is promoting consoles to PC gamers. This is about bringing the gaming community together. If you haven't seen other forums achieve success with this model, then you haven't been paying attention.

 

[DEXT3R]

No point of having this thread? You say it like a majority of the members in this thread are opposing the change.

I'm not saying majority support or oppose, i'm saying if the decision is already made there is no point in supporting or opposing before the change, this thread should be locked, and everyone should be moved on with the change.

No one is promoting consoles to PC gamers. This is about bringing the gaming community together. If you haven't seen other forums achieve success with this model, then you haven't been paying attention.

I'm not saying anyone is promoting right now, i just gave an example in above post, there will be many post like that. and whats so crazy about bringing community together, isn't it already together on one site. its just about user's preference. do you want to put that behind and force everyone in one place just for the sake of gathered community. and i pay attention to all forums, i have been too, most of them are still using our current structure, it doesn't mean if couple of them are trying something new, we should jump in that pool too, we are very different from the rest of the world, rest of the world is responsible and make no fuss in anything and respect each others views, we are Pakistanis, no offense to anyone specific but we tend to do these things. you can be all negative to it but the reality is we are different than others in this way.