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Syavash

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You sound like a 5 year old watching Into the wild and asking where all the action-packed scenes are. Debating is certainly not for the shallow likes of people like yourself.
Would your highness kindly tell shallow minded people like me, what exactly did you achieve with your debate, the end result?
 

omarko

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Would your highness kindly tell shallow minded people like me, what exactly did you achieve with your debate, the end result?
He always thought he was a pussy. People used to spit on him that he can not speak in public. So he just went to the MUN for the lulz. And then he discovered, so what if he has a small you-know-what, he can kick ass using his speech. He can publicly speak and the optimum frequency of his sound enabled him to become a chic magnet. The last sentence if purely unrelated to the account.
 

Yasir

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Would your highness kindly tell shallow minded people like me, what exactly did you achieve with your debate, the end result?
You're seriously asking me what benefits a debate brings us? Stand back my friend.

1-You're assigned a committee that exists in the actual UN with issues presented to you that actually exist in our world. You're expected to research your country's stance and hence gain knowledge about the country in regards to foreign policies, historical events, infrastructure, political state and what not.

2-Since it's an open debate and everyone comes having researched with their country, you not only get to gain knowledge about your own country but upto 60 more countries as everyone shares their views and perspectives on the given topic.

3-It provides a platform for those who wish to be heard and those who wish to broadcast their verbal skills. Not only does it help only the skilful speakers, it gives a chance to all those who have never spoken in an actual debate to speak up.

4-This in turn builds up confidence, self-esteem and a sense of team-work. Through lobbying, one can learn countless social skills and learn how to deal with people you've never MET before. Debating also provides you important argumentative and persuasion skills, which help you later on in life, in numerous career paths.

5-The purpose of MUN is to learn about each other country and to work together to come to a conclusive resolution. 60+ countries with different perspectives on the topic at hand coming together to pass a resolution for the betterment of the state, (in model) and you still don't know what the 'point.' is?

6-It's a competitive platform. Using your words to convince the other, to yield more and more supporters only using your intellect. It's purely a test of one's mind.

7-People who don't debate are usually extremely nervous when the opportunity to speak infront of people arises. They stutter, fidget and fear the attention. The debater on the other hand is made an effective speaker, using language in a fluent and clear manner to be understood by different audiences. No matter what line of work you choose, somewhere along the lines, you will be needed to speak infront of other people.

8-You meet new people, make new friends which is also a part of the MUN experience. Poondy/Parties too if you like.

9-Summed down to it all, it provides you insight into what actually goes on in the real life MUN conferences where the world's most important issues are discussed.

Since you asked what I personally gained, I feel obliged to outline. I've never debated before in my LIFE. Public speaking scared the living SHIT out of me. I used to stutter, be nervous and mispronounce my words. Ever since I participated in my first MUN, I've gained countless social and speaking skills that I always see myself on the frontlines of any public speaking event. I must admit, I was completely silent for the first few sessions but then I learned from the other speakers in my committee, gave it a change of posture and kicked ass to take home an honourable mention.
 

Syavash

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You're seriously asking me what benefits a debate brings us? Stand back my friend.

1-You're assigned a committee that exists in the actual UN with issues presented to you that actually exist in our world. You're expected to research your country's stance and hence gain knowledge about the country in regards to foreign policies, historical events, infrastructure, political state and what not.

2-Since it's an open debate and everyone comes having researched with their country, you not only get to gain knowledge about your own country but upto 60 more countries as everyone shares their views and perspectives on the given topic.

3-It provides a platform for those who wish to be heard and those who wish to broadcast their verbal skills. Not only does it help only the skilful speakers, it gives a chance to all those who have never spoken in an actual debate to speak up.

4-This in turn builds up confidence, self-esteem and a sense of team-work. Through lobbying, one can learn countless social skills and learn how to deal with people you've never MET before. Debating also provides you important argumentative and persuasion skills, which help you later on in life, in numerous career paths.

5-The purpose of MUN is to learn about each other country and to work together to come to a conclusive resolution. 60+ countries with different perspectives on the topic at hand coming together to pass a resolution for the betterment of the state, (in model) and you still don't know what the 'point.' is?

6-It's a competitive platform. Using your words to convince the other, to yield more and more supporters only using your intellect. It's purely a test of one's mind.

7-People who don't debate are usually extremely nervous when the opportunity to speak infront of people arises. They stutter, fidget and fear the attention. The debater on the other hand is made an effective speaker, using language in a fluent and clear manner to be understood by different audiences. No matter what line of work you choose, somewhere along the lines, you will be needed to speak infront of other people.

8-You meet new people, make new friends which is also a part of the MUN experience. Poondy/Parties too if you like.

9-Summed down to it all, it provides you insight into what actually goes on in the real life MUN conferences where the world's most important issues are discussed.

Since you asked what I personally gained, I feel obliged to outline. I've never debated before in my LIFE. Public speaking scared the living SHIT out of me. I used to stutter, be nervous and mispronounce my words. Ever since I participated in my first MUN, I've gained countless social and speaking skills that I always see myself on the frontlines of any public speaking event. I must admit, I was completely silent for the first few sessions but then I learned from the other speakers in my committee, gave it a change of posture and kicked ass to take home an honourable mention.
I agree with you on that, but there are two things clearly evident from your post. 1) Most of the positive points you mentioned were personal benefits, which is great for you. 2) Everything else, it is pointless since:

1) It is only a model, does anybody take it seriously?
2) More importantly most of the people, as pointed out in this thread, are only for the party, not the thing itself. The benefits you outlined are there, MUN as a CONCEPT is great, but due to the public, its quite useless to be honest, atleast in our country.
 

GrunT

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I agree with you on that, but there are two things clearly evident from your post. 1) Most of the positive points you mentioned were personal benefits, which is great for you. 2) Everything else, it is pointless since:

1) It is only a model, does anybody take it seriously?
2) More importantly most of the people, as pointed out in this thread, are only for the party, not the thing itself. The benefits you outlined are there, MUN as a CONCEPT is great, but due to the public, its quite useless to be honest, atleast in our country.
1.Yes, kind of, my school and colleges such as Nixor carry out special training sessions for this.I printed about 100+ page of research on nuclear terrorism, non proliferation, accountability and peaceful use.Before being at MUN, I knew nothing about nuclear bombs other than the fact that they destroy everything.Now I choose DISEC every time because I know A LOT about disarmament and international security.
2.Yes, most do go for the parties but there are SOME that go for the actual thing, they are the ones that succeed, they are the ones that will benefit because of it in their lives, be good at public speaking and be good at being diplomatic.Who knows some day this all comes useful to somebody on becoming a good politician or a diplomat.The rest well are missing out on the actual fun for temporary pleasure of their genitals.
 
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Yasir

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I agree with you on that, but there are two things clearly evident from your post. 1) Most of the positive points you mentioned were personal benefits, which is great for you. 2) Everything else, it is pointless since:

1) It is only a model, does anybody take it seriously?
2) More importantly most of the people, as pointed out in this thread, are only for the party, not the thing itself. The benefits you outlined are there, MUN as a CONCEPT is great, but due to the public, its quite useless to be honest, atleast in our country.
They were purposely told on a personal level since you asked me specifically what 'I' gained. :)
1) Yes, it is a model. Why take it seriously? Why do should people take fire drills seriously? There's no real fire. Why should people take virtual flight simulation tests seriously? It's not real. Why should students take practical tests seriously? They're never going to do that in the future. Why do interns work in firms without any real benefits apart from experience? They're not aiming to work in that firm.
You 'model' to get an insight into how it works. You gain experience, you gain insight on how the world's biggest union of countries works. As for your 'does anybody' take it seriously question, you're right on the major part. If there are 60 people, 35 wouldn't know wtf is going on, 20 would participate openly and the remaining would dominate the conference. Even with the comparatively lesser overall intellectual audience, the tone of the debate nevertheless IS serious.
2) Agreed. MOST people come for the parties but that's how your perception plays a part in it. If you come to debate, you're going to have an AMAZING experience despite the slackers. If you're there to party, you're going to sit clueless for 6-7 hours a day just so you can attend the party at night.

^PAFMUN/MUNIK fall into these categories more. ROTMUN however was much more serious, the chairs were fierce and the clueless ones would be humiliated.
 

GrunT

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^our chair at MUNIK actually got pissed at the guys and girls sitting at the back, talking and not taking part in the discussion.He humiliated them A LOT and told them to take a point of personal privilege and get the hell out :D

---------- Post added at 06:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:14 PM ----------

looking forward to ROTMUN this year, missed it the last time.
 

Syavash

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They were purposely told on a personal level since you asked me specifically what 'I' gained. :)
1) Yes, it is a model. Why take it seriously? Why do should people take fire drills seriously? There's no real fire.

Why should people take virtual flight simulation tests seriously? It's not real. Why should students take practical tests seriously? They're never going to do that in the future. Why do interns work in firms without any real benefits apart from experience? They're not aiming to work in that firm.
They take em to advance in that field, not everybody takes VR lessons, as for internships, for the experience which is USEFUL and benefits them. Not a fair comparison since after internship or VR training you can benefit yourself in your field, not alot of people here are gonna represent their country in the UN and to be honest, we have much bigger problems then that.

I don't like it on a personal level, but I guess you have a fair point on the whole. SO good for you :p

You 'model' to get an insight into how it works. You gain experience, you gain insight on how the world's biggest union of countries works. As for your 'does anybody' take it seriously question, you're right on the major part. If there are 60 people, 35 wouldn't know wtf is going on, 20 would participate openly and the remaining would dominate the conference. Even with the comparatively lesser overall intellectual audience, the tone of the debate nevertheless IS serious.
2) Agreed. MOST people come for the parties but that's how your perception plays a part in it. If you come to debate, you're going to have an AMAZING experience despite the slackers. If you're there to party, you're going to sit clueless for 6-7 hours a day just so you can attend the party at night.

^PAFMUN/MUNIK fall into these categories more. ROTMUN however was much more serious, the chairs were fierce and the clueless ones would be humiliated.
Hmm agreed on the most part.
 

omarko

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Ill be honest. ROTMUN and MUNIK were life changing events for me. (sm1)

And what Yasir said is very true if one actually tries to gain something from whatever is happening.
 
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