MULTI Cyberpunk 2077 - Base game + Phantom Liberty sales cross 30 million copies!

Necrokiller

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Base to enhance versions are not cross-gen releases which is the main difference about this announcement.

Sony forced Last of Us PS3 owners full price of whatever Remastered version on PS4 launched at. There was no option to just get the upgrades. Even if you make the case that PS3 > PS4 conversion isn't trivial, Ubisoft did a digital discount for a bunch of games if you owned them on PS3 (Blackflag).

I don't see how Sony, or any third party publisher, can justify charging for "remastered" versions now when this precedence is being set by MS and CDPR.
 

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Let's not make it sound like this is the first time something like this is happening. Sony has had cross-buy games across PS4/Vita (and some PS3 games) for a while as well.

Secondly, while we're calling out Sony, MS published games like Rise of TR's 360 or XBO version didn't have any kind of discounts either .. and the 360 to XBO conversion would be far more trivial than PS3 > PS4.

Finally, using the base to enhance model here makes sense here because at least CDPR's tweet implies an upgrade based system, not a full re-release with the kind of enhancements something like TLoU remastered did from PS3 to PS4 (eg, completely re-rendering all video files in the game from 720p to 1080/60 and adding new elements in Factions MP not possible on PS3 because of memory constraints etc)

Of course this is a good move on MS/CDPR to announce this, but it's gonna be shocking if any publisher tries to charge for something like this.
 

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There was cross-buy and there was also Play Anywhere titles. Yet remasters were $40-$60 re-releases. TLoU remaster was a simple up-res and frame rate boost. Lets not pretend that enhanced patches haven't already gotten the same quality of upgrades this gen. People were forced to buy the packaged deal, as opposed to giving the existing owners of the base game and DLC an upgrade path option to just get the "enhanced" visuals features like a Pro patch.

No one said MS has always had this strategy. But MS is the first to take this step here and this probably won't be a one off case. Now its Sony's turn to follow suit.

Everybody expected remastered versions of late gen games (TLoU 2, Tsushima, Cyberpunk etc) like GTA V and TLoU were remastered for a price last gen. This announcement officially sets the opposite expectations for next-gen remasters. So in a sense, this is a first. Would be interesting to see if Rockstar does RDR2 remaster and still charge for it.
 
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Bayer also confirmed that Cyberpunk 2077 wasn’t scheduled to appear at the event regardless of CD Projekt Red’s attendance.
 

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Game to dikhane ki state mai thaa nahi, developers ko bezti se bachane k liye wapas bula liya, corona to sirf bahana hai :wub:
 

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When Sony pulls out of all conferences to save face.

Chandoo said:
On one hand, it seems like an exaggerated move to cancel the entire thing. There's been no known cases of the virus in the areas Pax east was going to take place in.

On the other .. they will have had people flying in from Japan, and after China, Japan is the country with the second most number of Coronavirus cases .. so kinda makes sense I guess.
When a bunch of CDPR staff members visiting unofficially pull out of PAX

Chandoo said:
corona to sirf bahana hai
Chandoo on his gaming laptop in real life basically



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Chandoo

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I won't even bother doing a 'when sony does x necro says this' because its a site wide meme already (y)

Guess we'll find out in apr... september.
 

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Exactly.

"will people have to buy Last of Us 2 again on PS5 if they want the best version?"
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Why is he assuming that PS5 will have the best version? Everyone who cares about quality will already have the PC version.
 

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Surprised Necro isn't all over this yet:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...w-single-player-game-to-follow-cyberpunk-2077

"It's already working but we don't want to commit to it yet. We'll start working on this next game right after Cyberpunk 2077.


"I already said there will be no Witcher 4," he added. "I clearly said that Witcher was a trilogy. Simultaneously, we've always emphasised that we want to create Witcher games and the agreement with Mr. Sapkowski confirmed our rights."
Not Witcher 4, but could be a Witcher game

Witcher: Adventures of Ciri ?
 
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