Should consensual sex outside of marriage be punishable by law?

Gizmo said:

Sex without love? That's a very interesting thought.

But Why do we have to associate sex with love at all? they are two very different things, You don't have sex with everyone you love and you don't love everyone you have sex with. Although I suppose having sex with someone you love might increase the pleasure gained from the act but still there's nothing wrong with having sex with someone whom you have no major emotional attachment with just for the sake of pleasure.

If we consider sex to be an activity we perform with someone only for pleasure then how is it any different from playing Co-Op games with that person? You don't need to be in Love with a person to play cricket with them, So why do we need love for sex?

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You'll understand this someday.

Hopefully through the proper process.

Gizmo said:

If we consider sex to be an activity we perform with someone only for pleasure then how is it any different from playing Co-Op games with that person? You don't need to be in Love with a person to play cricket with them, So why do we need love for sex?

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That's the thing. Sex is not just any activity. It is THE activity. :lol:

How do you feel when you have your favorite videogame in your hand, unwrapping the plastic over it? How do you feel when you swing your bat, hitting the ball with that perfect sweet spot on the bat making that cracking sound and seeing the ball sail over the ropes. Those small bursts of amazing satisfying moments - sum'em all up and tune'em to the max. That's sex. That's the epitome of love.

Shyber said:

That's the thing. Sex is not just any activity. It is THE activity. :lol:

How do you feel when you have your favorite videogame in your hand, unwrapping the plastic over it? How do you feel when you swing your bat, hitting the ball with that perfect sweet spot on the bat making that cracking sound and seeing the ball sail over the ropes. Those small bursts of amazing satisfying moments - sum'em all up and tune'em to the max. That's sex. That's the epitome of love.

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Put simply..


There is a FINE DIFFERENCE between a person who has to do it with you

and the person who wants to do it with you.

Huge difference, and completely different experience and output.

Shyber said:

That's the thing. Sex is not just any activity. It is THE activity. :lol:

How do you feel when you have your favorite videogame in your hand, unwrapping the plastic over it? How do you feel when you swing your bat, hitting the ball with that perfect sweet spot on the bat making that cracking sound and seeing the ball sail over the ropes. Those small bursts of amazing satisfying moments - sum'em all up and tune'em to the max. That's sex. That's the epitome of love.

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so the purpose of this whole thread has totally changed now ...

Well i'm completely against premarital sex because i believe a person should only have sex with his/her spouse. not even with fiance because engagement do broke coz of death,arguments ETC. and it will be a kind of cheating to your (Future)life partner. don't know about others but i feel this way and its only my opinion.

If you are a father imagine if your daughter was involved in premarital sex.... yeah. You wouldnt allow it at all.

So first we were discussing if consensual sex should be allowed
Then we moved to sex before marriage in Islam
Then we moved to young girls getting married
And now we are discussing sex

I'm surprised that this hasnt been locked yet

Shyber said:

What if there's a world where EVERYONE does Sex ONLY for fun - all pregnancies are either prevented or aborted. We're looking at extinction then, no?
Or of course, we're looking at the propagation of only those ideas and mentality which believes in institutional procreation.

In short, those who have sex only for pleasure are destined to phase out faster than the "species" intending procreation and transference of culture and practices to future generation.

(Am just thinking TOO mathematically and long term)

But here's another interesting question. Who would you prefer to have sex with, someone who's exclusive or someone's who's had a few other partners?
Personally, I can see a lot of avenues of stress/depression/anxiety opening up when you remove the bounds of long term partnership.

And adding another note here - Marriage isn't only about sex: This Recently Married Man Just Realized Marriage Is Not For Him

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That is something he probably wrote in a fit of janu emotions, but I strongly disagree. Perhaps its a whole discussion in itself so I wont divulge further. But having tried the good boy act and the bad boy act I can safely say good boys that love whole heartedly and selflessly get the shaft.

I believe the question shouldnt be would you prefer someone that is exclusive because everyone will prefer a virgin. The question should be will you accept someone that has had other partners?

Blastwave said:

Put simply..


There is a FINE DIFFERENCE between a person who has to do it with you

and the person who wants to do it with you.

Huge difference, and completely different experience and output.

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"OUTPUT" :looking:

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Adultery is punishable.... Simplessss.....

don't know that there is to discuss here .-.

Hammad7741 said:

So first we were discussing if consensual sex should be allowed
Then we moved to sex before marriage in Islam
Then we moved to young girls getting married
And now we are discussing sex

I'm surprised that this hasnt been locked yet

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Kaisay ho lock ...
Kon karay lock




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opethian said:

Kaisay ho lock ...
Kon karay lock

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Kyun karay lock ? forum discussion ke liye hai ya thread lock karne ke liye ?

Mod karega lock
But ye thread ab ek machi bazar ban gaya hai

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the topic hasn't been changing... the discussion has been evolving... and that's bound to happen with every discussion that goes on for a while...

syedfarazahmed said:

Kyun karay lock ? forum discussion ke liye hai ya thread lock karne ke liye ?

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Very constrictive n healthy discussion ...
Baaat simple si hai ... Karo par pakray na jao Especially car main n lut machao ...
N sexologists n philosophers ... Aap wahen say apni talimat ka silsala jorain jahan say toota tha ... N MOD ... Yes the one ... Plz sirf mari posts delete karna choor Dou aur bohat logon nay b kuch likha hai ... Have tolerance ... we have kids here on this forum n abusive language is not allowed but such kind of topics are ... Great job ...

One more very important fact ... Whether u like it or not ... But Pakistan is still an Islamic state despite all it's weaknesses n moral diseases ... As per laws ur this wishful thinking will never be materialized unless you either change the constitution n make it a secular state or get a fatwa ... But it doesn't mean someone is forcefully stoping u from having such experiment n experience in life ... Being a free citizen u can violate every law ... With consent offcourse ... But honestly speaking jis mulk main rule of law ki ye halat ho keh rape victims never get justice wahan agar ye liberal freedom allow ho jae tou victims of crimes related to this unko kon poochay ga ... Plz Think about it ...





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My humble guess is almost 50% of members are teenagers here.

FUEL2009 said:

My humble guess is almost 50% of members are teenagers here.

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80% minors here.

Check the O-A level threads in Education section

I blame this thread on PTA for blocking porn sites

Originally Posted by Shyber

What if there's a world where EVERYONE does Sex ONLY for fun - all pregnancies are either prevented or aborted. We're looking at extinction then, no?

Answering to @Shyber

Bro, the last 40years before Qyamat will be pure "dark days". By dark-days, I meant k koi sharm-o-haya nahi hogi. Openly har kaam ho raha hoga. And no child will be born in the last 40 years. So, for non-muslims at that time, it will be jack-pot, i.e. Un-safe sex and no pregnancy.