Scorpio would need to bring nearly all of the 3rd party AAA games of this generation + rebuild their 1st party lineup + have exclusives (not on pc)
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There is, but then the real test would be whether MS are able to secure all those third party console exclusives Sony keeps getting. Yakuza, Persona, hell.. Death Standing, practically all of Japan, are all not coming to Xbox. They're all more likely to get PC ports than Xbox ports.It would be interesting to see the trend here on, whether consoles gamers would take the PC esque road towards high powered hardware iterations that could perform better or would stick to console exclusives games to guide their purchase.
I am actually confused atm. The attraction to buy a high powered console that could play games(multi platform) better than the PS4 PRO is there, but the final decision would obviously depend on how much marginal difference is there in terms of performance compared to the ps4 Pro.
Still the big issue for MS is the weak First Party exclusive line. Which itself is available on PC too.
I mistakenly wrote First Party. I was actually implying exactly what you said with games like Yakuza , Nier, Street Fighter etc not being on the Xbone. But i dont see that trend changing anytime soon *cough* Scalebound. As for Japan, they fucking hate XBOX, MS just replies in kind.There is, but then the real test would be whether MS are able to secure all those third party console exclusives Sony keeps getting. Yakuza, Persona, hell.. Death Standing, practically all of Japan, are all not coming to Xbox. They're all more likely to get PC ports than Xbox ports.
but the question is..IF the games on PC and Xbox are still going to be the same, how many people would shell out 500$ for an Xbox, when their existing PCs can play the same games..At this point Xbox becomes a steam machine, and look at what happened to those..IMO Xbox still NEEDS to have exclusive games only available on consoleLiterally all of it comes down to the games now. Even if it's priced at $499, which it likely will be, I can see myself buying it next year if I see MS getting good games on it.
The hype in the 5 minutes leading to its reveal was surreal though. Gaf was fire.
Only an enthusiast PC gamer with cash to spare will ever go for Scorpio. For them, there's barely any need to get this console. At this time however, I'm simply enjoying the lack of any sort of attention span being exhibited by most of the internet on gaf right now lol. The hysterics are out in full force.but the question is..IF the games on PC and Xbox are still going to be the same, how many people would shell out 500$ for an Xbox, when their existing PCs can play the same games..At this point Xbox becomes a steam machine, and look at what happened to those..IMO Xbox still NEEDS to have exclusive games only available on console
well scorpio is focusing on true 4K which itself is luxury standard for games. also a 500$ PC doesn't even come close to what is being promised by MS's new console here. my rough estimates put an equivalent PC solution at atleast 800$ (1000$ for brand new build). so yeah i can see people buying the 500$ premium console even if the exclusives are play anywhere titles only. what MS needs now is exclusives that score well compared to the competition.but the question is..IF the games on PC and Xbox are still going to be the same, how many people would shell out 500$ for an Xbox, when their existing PCs can play the same games..At this point Xbox becomes a steam machine, and look at what happened to those..IMO Xbox still NEEDS to have exclusive games only available on console
no doubt it will be great..but two major things in these assumption is that it will release "soonish" and "500$" price point, both of which no one knows.well scorpio is focusing on true 4K which itself is luxury standard for games. also a 500$ PC doesn't even come close to what is being promised by MS's new console here. my rough estimates put an equivalent PC solution at atleast 800$ (1000$ for brand new build). so yeah i can see people buying the 500$ premium console even if the exclusives are play anywhere titles only. .
phil spencer himself once said that they don't want to price it unreasonably. plus its pretty much confirmed for holiday season. i m guessing Q4 2017no doubt it will be great..but two major things in these assumption is that it will release "soonish" and "500$" price point, both of which no one knows.
^This. People who already own a PC won't find much of a reason to shift to Scorpio if MS doesn't offer drool worthy exclusives. On the other hand, PS4 has games like Horizon, Last of Us, Days Gone, God of War which really tempts the gamers to opt for the Sony console.but the question is..IF the games on PC and Xbox are still going to be the same, how many people would shell out 500$ for an Xbox, when their existing PCs can play the same games..At this point Xbox becomes a steam machine, and look at what happened to those..IMO Xbox still NEEDS to have exclusive games only available on console
If Microsoft only wanted PC gamers with capable rigs to purchase Xbox why would they make their exclusives available on PC? Its the opposite infact, where Sony and MS have realized how outdated the consoles get within 2-3 years so mid-gen refresh approach will not tempt people to build PCs.but the question is..IF the games on PC and Xbox are still going to be the same, how many people would shell out 500$ for an Xbox, when their existing PCs can play the same games..At this point Xbox becomes a steam machine, and look at what happened to those..IMO Xbox still NEEDS to have exclusive games only available on console
MS never promised native 4K for all games on Scorpio. The only performance profile we have of Scorpio right now is of Forza 6 hitting 4K60 (its a 1080p60fps game even on XB1). A $230 RX 480 on PC can do native 4K60 on Ultra/High graphics (Scorpio GPU is slightly better than that). Not that shocking to be honest.well scorpio is focusing on true 4K which itself is luxury standard for games. also a 500$ PC doesn't even come close to what is being promised by MS's new console here. my rough estimates put an equivalent PC solution at atleast 800$ (1000$ for brand new build). so yeah i can see people buying the 500$ premium console even if the exclusives are play anywhere titles only. what MS needs now is exclusives that score well compared to the competition.
I never said Ms wont target Sony.If Microsoft only wanted PC gamers with capable rigs to purchase Xbox why would they make their exclusives available on PC? Its the opposite infact, where Sony and MS have realized how outdated the consoles get within 2-3 years so mid-gen refresh approach will not tempt people to build PCs.
Do you really expect Phil to say anything else ?phil spencer himself once said that they don't want to price it unreasonably
Again..I wish it makes it, but gaming is perhaps the field with most "delayed" products. Guess we will find out on E3.plus its pretty much confirmed for holiday season. i m guessing Q4 2017
Never promised native 4k across the board but they are very vocal abt hitting that target with most games specially first party exclusives. There were no such indications by Sony for PS4 pro.MS never promised native 4K for all games on Scorpio. The only performance profile we have of Scorpio right now is of Forza 6 hitting 4K60 (its a 1080p60fps game even on XB1). A $230 RX 480 on PC can do native 4K60 on Ultra/High graphics (Scorpio GPU is slightly better than that). Not that shocking to be honest.
why you are paying american rates in Pakistan. Search cheaper region like Turkey. 13k for 13 months. Ms does not careShadowdragoo said:no idea how that is a steal by wasting 3500 rupees per month and for games that are removed before you can finish them off.xbox gamepass is garbage with no local prices
There are no such thing as "bad design" bro, its all "artistic vision" nowEternalBlizzard said:Is it just me or people lately seem to defend every bad game design decision made by the devs and try to give bullshit reasons for that? Or perhaps it's because I'm on reddit and discord