What processor I should buy for gaming purpose?

[Shenzo]

I am rejoining gaming world after four years. I have just bought HIS HD 4850 ICEQ4 Turbo 512MB 256BIT and Power Supply 550W from PG member but games are not running properly, I realized that It must be my processor, P4 3.0 Ghz HT, that is causing it.

I have limited budget, up to 5k almost, but want to have a processor that can fulfill the requirements of 3D games for at least 2 years.

Please advice me on which processor would be the best for me.

 

[Syavash]

First of all congrats on the return to PC Gaming.

Now for the PC, well Pentium 4s are seriously under powered for today's games so that 5k budget will not be enough to upgrade.

It will be best if you can provide the following information as the money you need to spend depends on your current configuration.

Motherboard model
RAM type DDR/DDR2 etc?

 

[Shenzo]

Motherboard= ASUS P5SD2-VM
RAM= 2*1GB DDR2 667

Please help me. I have my P4 3.0 Ghz HT and 5k cash budget. Won't they be enough? How much can I get from selling my P4?

 

[mubaidr]

Better to selll ur current mobo and processor. Add some cash and get p5kpl-am/cm and e6300/e5200
Or if u dont want to sell mobo then get e5200

 

[theDarkDisciple]

5k is sufficient for processor upgrade, given your current specs. Try getting a hold of something like a dual core E5400 or an E63/6500. Fit right in your budget and should be more than enough for today's games. For the next 2 years? No one can give you that sort of an assurance but you'll be able to game for the next few months and you always have the option to OC on that Asus mobo if need be.

 

[Syavash]

Motherboard= ASUS P5SD2-VM
RAM= 2*1GB DDR2 667

Please help me. I have my P4 3.0 Ghz HT and 5k cash budget. Won't they be enough? How much can I get from selling my P4?

Your hardware is not as outdated I thought. You already have DDR2 RAMS and the motherboard supports Core 2 Duos which is good news for you. Get a new Dual Core E6500 for Rs.6.7k from Galaxy and it will serve you well.

Although this solves your problem and you can play EVERY new game with tha setup what I would personally suggest you to do is:

1) Sell your motherboard, ram and Processor which should give you around 10k I think (I dont exactly know how much your hardware is worth)

In that 10k you can get Core i3 530 processor which is much more powerful than any Pentium Dual Core and worth the extra cash. Now you will have 5k remaining, try and increase your budget to 12k and get DDR3 2GB RAM and Asus P7H55V motherboard.

I know its a bit expensive and you might have issues adding in the extra cash but this setup will be new, you will have a fairly powerful processor and a great motherboard as well as faster RAMS and since all this stuff is new, it will have more resale value when you eventually sell it after a few years.

If you still decide to go for the Dual core processor keep in mind that although you save a bit of cash, you get less performance, and you will have issues selling that stuff later on and after 2 years you will hardly find any buyer for it.

P7H55V:

 

[frostbite90]

i used n e5200 on stock speed for a long time with my gtx275... i had no problems in maxing out games like crysis... the only time i'd get lag was when i'd play gta 4 on max... it's a good sturdy low budget processor.... go for it

 

[abobobilly]

@Shenzo! For a E6500 Dual Core, you MAY require a BIOS upgrade inorder to run that CPU on your current motherboard. So be sure you upgrade your BIOS before selling out your current processor.
In my opinion, do that now incase you forget later

 

[ujcivil99]

in addition to upgrading the processor you also need to upgrade your board. p5qpl-cm (PCI-e 2.0) and e5400 or e6500

 

[shahoo]

is asus p5kpl-cm or p5kpl-am/cm a reliable and good mobo ?

 

[sp20v]

Get For ASUS P Pro Series or Get MSI P43 NEO3 ..You Can Also Find Them used As Some People Sold Them On PG....!!

 

[Shenzo]

Better to selll ur current mobo and processor. Add some cash and get p5kpl-am/cm and e6300/e5200
Or if u dont want to sell mobo then get e5200

How can I get one of these processors? The problem I am facing is there are only two dual core processors available at galaxy and PG members are recommending me other dual core processors (Non-Available). Every dual core processor at PG is sold out as it is advertised so I didn't see any recommended dual core processor available for sale on PG. If there is one, please tell me. I want to save money by not buying new one from galaxy.
Sorry, I don't want to sell my mobo as it is going to cost me more and I am not ready to bear it. Further more, I won't overclock my CPU, overclocking is good but I am not willing to make arrangements for cooling systems for overclocking. I just want to simplify things.

---------- Post added at 12:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 PM ----------

5k is sufficient for processor upgrade, given your current specs. Try getting a hold of something like a dual core E5400 or an E63/6500. Fit right in your budget and should be more than enough for today's games. For the next 2 years? No one can give you that sort of an assurance but you'll be able to game for the next few months and you always have the option to OC on that Asus mobo if need be.

Hmm Thanks. Someone is selling me C2D 2.53 Ghz for 6.5k. Shouldn't I buy this one? I really don't understand why experts on PG are recommending me dual core processors, although C2D is faster than Dual Core and Used C2D costs the same as that of new Dual Core E6500. Should I really buy Dual Core IF I am not going to overclock my CPU? Why? Please explain. I don't know much

---------- Post added at 01:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------

Your hardware is not as outdated I thought. You already have DDR2 RAMS and the motherboard supports Core 2 Duos which is good news for you. Get a new Dual Core E6500 for Rs.6.7k from Galaxy and it will serve you well.

Although this solves your problem and you can play EVERY new game with tha setup what I would personally suggest you to do is:

1) Sell your motherboard, ram and Processor which should give you around 10k I think (I dont exactly know how much your hardware is worth)

In that 10k you can get Core i3 530 processor which is much more powerful than any Pentium Dual Core and worth the extra cash. Now you will have 5k remaining, try and increase your budget to 12k and get DDR3 2GB RAM and Asus P7H55V motherboard.

I know its a bit expensive and you might have issues adding in the extra cash but this setup will be new, you will have a fairly powerful processor and a great motherboard as well as faster RAMS and since all this stuff is new, it will have more resale value when you eventually sell it after a few years.

If you still decide to go for the Dual core processor keep in mind that although you save a bit of cash, you get less performance, and you will have issues selling that stuff later on and after 2 years you will hardly find any buyer for it.

P7H55V:

Thank you for defining me so briefly. Sorry, I can't afford more expense to go for core i3 system
I have two feasible options by now.
1) Buy new E6500
2) Buy Used C2D 2.53 Ghz.
I am confused to choose one of them. Both cost me the same. C2D seems to be better one but people recommending me Dual Core. Why? I just need reason. Why prefer Dual Core over C2D IF they cost me the same and I am not going to overclock my CPU?

---------- Post added at 01:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:10 PM ----------

@Shenzo! For a E6500 Dual Core, you MAY require a BIOS upgrade inorder to run that CPU on your current motherboard. So be sure you upgrade your BIOS before selling out your current processor.
In my opinion, do that now incase you forget later

Hmm Nice Precaution. I am going to do it today. Thanks bro (Y)

 

[mubaidr]

@ujcivil99: I think u r talking about P5QL-CM ( P5qpl-cm is nothing )
Yes.... Reliable: Asus p5kpl-am, Asus p5kpl-cm

Asus p5kpl-am/cm means p5kpl-am or p5kpl-cm.

FOR Processor:
Galaxy has e5400 and e6500 available both are good processors.
Reason why PG members are recommending u DC over C2D :
because these DC and C2Ds are same except difference of cache It does not make much difference in performance since these Duals are new technology 45nm with smart cache.

So recomendation go for... :
Asus P5kpl-cm/am
e6300/e6500 or e5200/e5400 All are almost same get what ever u find easily used or new...

 

[Shenzo]

@ujcivil99: I think u r talking about P5QL-CM ( P5qpl-cm is nothing )
Yes.... Reliable: Asus p5kpl-am, Asus p5kpl-cm

Asus p5kpl-am/cm means p5kpl-am or p5kpl-cm.

FOR Processor:
Galaxy has e5400 and e6500 available both are good processors.
Reason why PG members are recommending u DC over C2D :
because these DC and C2Ds are same except difference of cache It does not make much difference in performance since these Duals are new technology 45nm with smart cache.

So recomendation go for... :
Asus P5kpl-cm/am
e6300/e6500 or e5200/e5400 All are almost same get what ever u find easily used or new...

Hmm Thanks. I am searching for used E5400. Probably I will get it soon.

 

[XxRebellionxX]

Tell The Model Of C2D U r Getting..........

 

[ujcivil99]

@ujcivil99: I think u r talking about P5QL-CM ( P5qpl-cm is nothing )
Yes.... Reliable: Asus p5kpl-am, Asus p5kpl-cm

Asus p5kpl-am/cm means p5kpl-am or p5kpl-cm.

FOR Processor:
Galaxy has e5400 and e6500 available both are good processors.
Reason why PG members are recommending u DC over C2D :
because these DC and C2Ds are same except difference of cache It does not make much difference in performance since these Duals are new technology 45nm with smart cache.

So recomendation go for... :
Asus P5kpl-cm/am
e6300/e6500 or e5200/e5400 All are almost same get what ever u find easily used or new...

yes i meant p5Ql-cm/am
y u r still recommending p5Kpl-cm/am, i have mentioned the reason that p5Ql-cm has PCIe 2.0 while p5Kpl-cm does not have that.
Do you have any other good reason?

 

[mubaidr]

@Shenzo : Upgrade your BIOS and Better to search for "E6500".

@ujcivil99 : PCIe 2.0 is meant only for double bandwidth over pcie 1.1, I dnt think so that cards are able to use whole bandwidth of pci 1.1, And secondly p5ql-cm costs about Rs1000 or more than p5kpl-am, So no need to spend extra on it. There is negligible difference...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-2.0,1915-9.html

 

[Shenzo]

Yes, I am doing bro. I think I'll have to buy new one. None seems to be interested to sell.

 

[theDarkDisciple]

How can I get one of these processors? The problem I am facing is there are only two dual core processors available at galaxy and PG members are recommending me other dual core processors (Non-Available). Every dual core processor at PG is sold out as it is advertised so I didn't see any recommended dual core processor available for sale on PG. If there is one, please tell me. I want to save money by not buying new one from galaxy.
Sorry, I don't want to sell my mobo as it is going to cost me more and I am not ready to bear it. Further more, I won't overclock my CPU, overclocking is good but I am not willing to make arrangements for cooling systems for overclocking. I just want to simplify things.

---------- Post added at 12:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 PM ----------


Hmm Thanks. Someone is selling me C2D 2.53 Ghz for 6.5k. Shouldn't I buy this one? I really don't understand why experts on PG are recommending me dual core processors, although C2D is faster than Dual Core and Used C2D costs the same as that of new Dual Core E6500. Should I really buy Dual Core IF I am not going to overclock my CPU? Why? Please explain. I don't know much

---------- Post added at 01:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------


Thank you for defining me so briefly. Sorry, I can't afford more expense to go for core i3 system
I have two feasible options by now.
1) Buy new E6500
2) Buy Used C2D 2.53 Ghz.
I am confused to choose one of them. Both cost me the same. C2D seems to be better one but people recommending me Dual Core. Why? I just need reason. Why prefer Dual Core over C2D IF they cost me the same and I am not going to overclock my CPU?

---------- Post added at 01:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:10 PM ----------


Hmm Nice Precaution. I am going to do it today. Thanks bro (Y)

Clarification: the dual core processors listed above (E5xxx and E6xxx) ARE actually Core2Duo's. Intel just markets them with a different name, otherwise theres absolutely no difference between E5x and E6x dual cores and other C2Ds. All procs - the E4x, E5x, E6x, E7x dual cores and the E8x C2Ds are based on the same architecture.

EDIT: Which 2.53GHz C2D are you talking about here btw?

 

[Shenzo]

Clarification: the dual core processors listed above (E5xxx and E6xxx) ARE actually Core2Duo's. Intel just markets them with a different name, otherwise theres absolutely no difference between E5x and E6x dual cores and other C2Ds. All procs - the E4x, E5x, E6x, E7x dual cores and the E8x C2Ds are based on the same architecture.

EDIT: Which 2.53GHz C2D are you talking about here btw?

I am talking about E7200, It is used with no warranty and being sold for Rs.6750, not on PG.
You are right, the only difference is they are being marketed with different names, But I notice that C2D is more expensive than Dual Core. That's why now I am going towards Dual Core. I am still searching, If I didn't find by tomorrow, I am gonna get new E6500.