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murtaza12

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What's the difference b/w going into bridge mode and doing it the way you are asking to do it vs plugging an ethernet directly into the port of the modem and the new router without doing the things you have mentioned above?

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PTCL (and most ISPs), assign 1 Public IP address to home users. That IP is visible on the internet, it's what represents you online, for example when you post on PG, your Public IP address is recorded.
A private IP or Local IP address is the one assigned to your particular device by your router in a local network.
For example if your router is 192.168.1.1, and you connect a device to the router, the private IP address would be 192.168.1.x
X being a different number every time.

If you don't configure the modem in bridge mode, the Public IP address remains assigned to the crap modem in this case, and just attaching a router without bridging them will cause the following to happen:

-Defeat the purpose of getting a router in the first place, cause if the modem still freezes or whatever, it'll affect the router as well.

-Creates a double NAT, due to having a new set of Private IP ranges.

For example:
Public IP address assigned to your modem is 39.40.40.40, and the LAN of the VDSL modem is 192.168.1.10, connecting a router without bridging would require you to assign a WAN IP address to the router from the same subnet as the VDSL modem, i.e: 192.168.1.x, so your router would then have 192.168.1.15 as it's WAN IP, but then any device you connect to the router would have another separate IP address range, probably 192.168.0.1, causing 2 different subnets in a home network, which is a pain to deal with in some applications, especially P2P online gaming, uTorrent, etc or any applications that require to 'see' your device on the internet.

Bridging the modem and router would directly have the Public IP address assigned to the router rather than the modem, giving you the benefit of having more features to fiddle with in the router and probably better WiFi coverage and throughput if you have a good router.

Hope I cleared things up.

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As I mentioned earlier, the normal ADSL2+ router PTCL provides nowadays is a dual-antenna router (from Tenda). It was extremely good despite having crappy PTCL firmware and had outstanding signals all over my home. the VDSL router feels more like a downgrade than an upgrade to me :confused:
Nothing can be done with that anyway. ADSL2+ routers aren't compatible with VDSL, no other way around this other than buying your own router and using that instead.

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PTCL (and most ISPs), assign 1 Public IP address to home users. That IP is visible on the internet, it's what represents you online, for example when you post on PG, your Public IP address is recorded.
A private IP or Local IP address is the one assigned to your particular device by your router in a local network.
For example if your router is 192.168.1.1, and you connect a device to the router, the private IP address would be 192.168.1.x
X being a different number every time.

If you don't configure the modem in bridge mode, the Public IP address remains assigned to the crap modem in this case, and just attaching a router without bridging them will cause the following to happen:

-Defeat the purpose of getting a router in the first place, cause if the modem still freezes or whatever, it'll affect the router as well.

-Creates a double NAT, due to having a new set of Private IP ranges.

For example:
Public IP address assigned to your modem is 39.40.40.40, and the LAN of the VDSL modem is 192.168.1.10, connecting a router without bridging would require you to assign a WAN IP address to the router from the same subnet as the VDSL modem, i.e: 192.168.1.x, so your router would then have 192.168.1.15 as it's WAN IP, but then any device you connect to the router would have another separate IP address range, probably 192.168.0.1, causing 2 different subnets in a home network, which is a pain to deal with in some applications, especially P2P online gaming, uTorrent, etc or any applications that require to 'see' your device on the internet.

Bridging the modem and router would directly have the Public IP address assigned to the router rather than the modem, giving you the benefit of having more features to fiddle with in the router and probably better WiFi coverage and throughput if you have a good router.

Hope I cleared things up.

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You really know your shit.

So it wouldn't affect the day to day browsing? I'm going to do it either way in the morning tho.

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Nothing can be done with that anyway. ADSL2+ routers aren't compatible with VDSL, no other way around this other than buying your own router and using that instead.

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OK.

How about i buy my VDSL router and use that instead of PTCL's shitty VDSL router ???

Like this one for example, would that work ?

Network Products - Tp-Link TD-W9970 300Mbps Wireless N USB VDSL2 Modem Router in Pakistan for Rs.6700.00 | Computer Zone

This one doesn't look bad either.

Tenda V300 300Mbps Wireless N VDSL2 Modem Router-Tenda-All For Better NetWorking

What I'm saying is, I used to use my own DSL WIFI router from TP-LINK for PTCL. Can i do the same for VDSL too ?
 
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You really know your shit.

So it wouldn't affect the day to day browsing? I'm going to do it either way in the morning tho.

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I have the same setup, haven't bridged my GPON ONT because I'll probably lose the telephone line and IPTV, but I've just connected my router as is without bridging it.
Day to day browsing and downloads aren't affected.

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OK.

How about i buy my VDSL router and use that instead of PTCL's shitty VDSL router ???

Like this one for example, would that work ?

Network Products - Tp-Link TD-W9970 300Mbps Wireless N USB VDSL2 Modem Router in Pakistan for Rs.6700.00 | Computer Zone

This one doesn't look bad either.

Tenda V300 300Mbps Wireless N VDSL2 Modem Router-Tenda-All For Better NetWorking

What I'm saying is, I used to use my own DSL WIFI router from TP-LINK for PTCL. Can i do the same for VDSL too ?
Yes, you can use the same for VDSL as well.

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I need to use the IPTV + Telephone as well, as I bought it as TriplePlay package (phone calls and smart TV line rent is free). Would buying a VDSL router let me utilize these features ???
 

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I need to use the IPTV + Telephone as well, as I bought it as TriplePlay package (phone calls and smart TV line rent is free). Would buying a VDSL router let me utilize these features ???
Telephone, yes I think so.

IPTV, not sure. You'd need to figure out how IPTV is setup on the VDSL modem before configuring the new one and make the same settings over there.

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Damn 30Mbps on copper? and still our Pings are the same lol i was upgrading but fine.
It's a Fiber connection.

Pings are the same to most international servers on DSL and GPON, sometimes I get 5-10 ms lower, but otherwise they're more or less the same.

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anyone facing slow play store downloads

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Can anyone with sources please ask PTCL to fix their route to the facebook servers. Facebook videos and gifs load like a snail and it's really annoying. They work fine on Zong etc.

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