[OT] Marvel Releases Official Statement On Daredevil Cancellation

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[h=1]Why Marvel’s ‘Daredevil’ Netflix Series Has Changed Shared Universe Franchising[/h]


NOTE: This Daredevil Editorial will be SPOILER-FREE.
Marvel has launched its DaredevilNetflix series, and early reviews and feedback from fans indicates that it is indeed another hit for the superhero entertainment company. Like so many things Marvel is doing right now, Daredevil arrived with a lot of big questions hanging over it, with one main theme between them all: Can Marvel change its formula and still have as much success?
Now that Daredevil is streaming into homes worldwide, it seems that the show (along with films like Guardians of the Galaxy) prove beyond doubt that the Marvel brand holds strong across all mediums, in a variety of forms. More than that, though, we think Daredevil is yet another milestone marker for how Marvel continues to change the game of shared universe superhero entertainment. Here are 5 Reasons Why.



[h=2]5. It Proves There’s an Adult Market[/h]

If any parents out there are letting their young children continue to pursue die-hard Marvel fandom by watching the Daredevil Netflix series, those parents are definitely making a mistake. This show is strictly for the adult crowd.
Without SPOILING anything: in the dark world of MCU Hell’s Kitchen, gruesome death, injury and violence is commonplace. In fact, moments in the series reveal some truly gasp-worthy acts of brutality that a month ago - a year – many would’ve assumed to be too explicit for the Disney-owned MCU.
As Daredevil continues to stack up viewers and hype, it’s become clear that an adult market Marvel was clearly probing is probably even bigger than they thought: large numbers of adults are willing to jump into the MCU, if the material is suited to their tastes.




WHAT IT MEANS: Now that Marvel has once again stepped out and tested the waters first, other companies building these massive shared universes can be rest assured that there is a viable market for adult-themed material.
For Marvel, this means that characters like Punisher, Blade, Moon Knight or Ghost Rider (all back in the possession of Marvel Studios) can be properly explored in darker, more adult-themed series. For other studios also hoping to build similar shared universe franchises, there is now confidence in the idea that the superhero genre can viably play to a strictly adult crowd, on the small screen – and possibly the big one, as well. Bring on Deadpool.



[h=2]4. It’s a Perfect Genre Middle Ground[/h]

Here are two problems the superhero genre was facing before the Daredevil Netflix series came along:

  1. Origin story movies were getting too repetitive and formulaic to guarantee bigger box office returns – especially individual heroes (something that Ant-Man and Marvel’s Phase 3 films all have to overcome).
  2. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (and arguably shows like Arrow, Flash and Gotham) proved that the network TV format for superhero shows wasn’t necessarily the best fit. Between episode requirements (22), the resulting budget restrictions, the pull between network standards and advertising dollars… superhero TV has been a tricky thing to get right.
Now that Daredevil is here, it’s clear that the paradigm of superhero TV has been changed.

WHAT IT MEANS: Forgetting aspects of the show unique to Netflix (no ads, the binge-watch option) and just focusing on structure: By adapting the cable or UK-style miniseries structure, in a medium free of all the aforementioned network TV hangups, Daredevil proves how superhero origins can still be told effectively, both in terms of cost, and audience reception.


13 Episodes of slow-build character drama (and plenty of action) is enough to really get to know, appreciate and grow with a character in a resonant way. However, it’s also not enough time for good pacing to be dragged down by too many side characters or storylines to help sustain a 22 episode season.
Has DC TV been dethroned?

Now companies with a large stable of characters (DC, LucasFilm) have a cost-effective and proven method that could arguably grow brand potential out of just about any character in their library. Let’s see how many DC and/or Star Wars series make their way to streaming services in the coming years.


[h=2]3. It Inspires More Brand Diversity[/h]
One big thing we wished for during our Screen Rant Underground podcast was to see Marvel Studios follow the example of the comic book publisher and create different lanes of its cinematic universe. Marvel Comics fans of the ’90s got to enjoy the horror/supernatural heroes of the “Midnight Sons” imprint – and later, the darker, grittier heroes of the “Marvel Knights” imprint (to name a few examples). Our thought has always been: why couldn’t the same work for a cinematic universe?
Marvel has led the way in diversifying their brand, with AoS, Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain America 2 and even Big Hero 6 representing a varying range of material that appeals to an equally wide range of demographics. With the more adult-themed Daredevil, Marvel now has indisputible evidence of why different lanes of the MCU – with different tones – can be lucrative.



WHAT IT MEANS: Daredeviland the rest of the Netflix Defenders already seem to reflect the Marvel Knights mentality (grittier, more adult-themed), so getting characters like Moon Knight or Punisher into Netflix Phase Two (in proper dark, violent depiction) seems only logical. Same goes for Ghost Rider, Blade, Morbius and other supernatural characters that build toward a “Midnight Sons” horror-themed team.
With the adult crowd still largely up for grabs, DC has its own supernatural wing that could be kicked off by Guillermo del Toro’s Justice League Dark; the company is already jumping into exploring the villain side of things with the Suicide Squad movie, andFox is going hard-R with X-Men spinoff Deadpool.
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There have been strides forward in making superhero entertainment geared toward the adult crowd - but clearly there is much more potential for Marvel and DC characters, X-Men mutants – or even Star Wars - to follow the Daredevil model with adult-themed TV programming. A dark and violent Star Wars: Bounty Hunters series? Yes please!


[h=2]2. It’s a Strong Case for Cohesive Diversification[/h]

There is one huge difference between what Marvel is doing with Daredevil and what DC/WB is doing with shows like Arrow, Supergirl, Flash, or the upcoming Flash spinoff show. The difference is: Marvel is risking real shared universe chips on Daredevil.
DC/WB executives have floated the idea that the separation between DC movies and TV shows (like having a TV and Movie Flash both cast at the moment) represents a fun “DC Multiverse” sandbox where fans can get different versions of their characters and stories, with the hope that such diversity just increases the fun.



That’s all well and good, but with Daredevil, Marvel is showing confidence and investment in building up a character (and actor) who matters to their universe in such a way that he could one day stand on the big screen alongside The Avengers. Moreover, by being a direct extension of the larger MCU, Daredevil is automatically considered to be more crucial and important than say The Flash TV series, which (for all its good) will likely be totally invalidated by events of The Flash movie coming in a few years.
Daredevil, The Avengers, Defenders & Spider-Man all together: It can happen.

WHAT IT MEANS: Marvel has at once proven an important theory about shared universe branding, and managed to transcend its own branding limitations. After Daredevil, it will be hard to argue that the MCU is just “kids stuff” - just as it will be hard to argue that a shared universe can only have one kind of approach to its tone and/or brand. Worlds may collide if Daredevil is ever on an episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but now we know that they will not shatter – only grow stronger, together.


The Marvel Cinematic Universe has earned the ability to be anything it wants, and can still be more than the sum of its differing parts.
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[h=2]1. It Proves Any Hero Is Potentially Worth Exploring[/h]

Some may read that heading above and take it as a slight against Daredevil as a character – please don’t. Obviously there is a lot of inherent merit in the story of a blind lawyer who is a righteous lawman by day, and violent vigilante at night. Daredevil’s mythos is not something that “any character” can offer to TV audiences.
At the same time, however, Daredevil could be compared to so many Arrow‘s and Batman Begins‘ that came before it; but what distinguishes the show and its character is how the Netflix series builds and explores who this character is. We’ve already touched on how the freer (and shorter) form of binge-watch TV enhances the focus and effectiveness of superhero origin storytelling; its a formula that many other characters could potentially use to their advantage.


The Defenders

WHAT IT MEANS: Two years ago, nobody would’ve guessed that Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and Iron Fist were all potential big money makers for Marvel, but as I write this, few would now bet against The Defenders being a huge success for the company. We’ve already pointed out how having stalled movie franchises like Punisher, Ghost Rider and Blade back in the fold could lead to success in Netflix MCU Phase Two – but we’re sure Marvel already realizes that potential for themselves.

If other studios aren’t seeing the possibilities for turning entire second and third tier sections of their character libraries into successful series, then they’re blind as Matt Murdock. Daredevil blazed the trail; a that’s left for more studios to follow.
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[h=2]Conclusion[/h]

It’s hard to deny that (love it or hate it) Marvel’s Daredevil Netflix series is a game-changer. What do you think of the show? Has it lived up to expectations? Are you happy that the stars Charlie Cox and Vincent D’Onofrio are full-fledged members of the MCU? Or do you prefer DC TV’s “Multiverse” approach? Discuss with us in the comics.
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ok so got done with the entire season ! an exciting three days full of thrill :D

so i'll admit i wasn't so curious about this show it came out of the blow the entire season "hail netflix" and made a sudden impact on the tv industry i'd say more over how comic book shows should be "learn something here marvel and dc too a bit :p" the action was surreal. i mean it felt true to combat and didn't hold back, the drama was intense and deep, story was girtty and dark and how a comic book show which is of nature should be.

i would like to thank netflix for taking on this show and giving us a real daredevil we deserve. wilson fisk aka the kingpin (later on) was good aswell. his whole psychomaniac personality traumatized by his past etc was nice.

the only lack i found here would be daredevils xray vision etc sonar capability which i only saw in one episode but i'll let that pass since it was done with a minimum budget perhaps.

also did charlie cox do his own stunts maybe ? when he was traversing the buildings in one episode im rather sure it was him no ?

man that last epiosde when he FINALLY dons the suit :D awesomeeeee
 

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As someone who doesn't watch a lot of TV series (I haven't touched Breaking Bad or Dexter or Game of Thrones or much of anything) and a person who hasn't really gotten into the DareDevil character as far as the comics are concerned, I have to say that I am 100% satisfied with this series. All 13 Episodes are a joyride. There is proper storytelling in this series, from start to finish. I feel like at the end of every episode, the plot is being expanded and the characters developed. Even when it slows down, it doesn't turn into a snore-fest. What I love is the more realistic take they've adopted, albeit I can see why comic book fans may not like that. You don't need to be a fan of anything in particular to enjoy this series because in the end, it's just a well told story.

I'm interested to see how Season 2 goes. I do have a few concerns with how they'll handle the *spoiler* former masked man and now Daredevil as well as the future villain(s) with Fisk being in jail.
 

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[h=1]‘Daredevil’ Netflix Series Season 2 Premiering in 2016[/h]


Well that didn’t take long.


Eleven days after premiering on Netflix, Marvel’s DaredevilTV series has not only won critical and fan acclaim – it’s apparently had enough viewership for Marvel and Netflix to renew the series for season 2. And while it’s not surprising to hear that the Devil of Hell’s Kitchen will have his saga continue, it is surprising to hear how soon it will continue.



Netflix made the official announcement via press release:



  • Netflix is confirming a second season of Marvel’s Daredevil that will premiere in 2016.
  • Doug Petrie (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, American Horror Story) and Marco Ramirez (Sons of Anarchy), who worked closely with Steven DeKnight and Drew Goddard, will serve as show runners for season two.
  • Ramirez, Petrie, Drew Goddard (Cabin in the Woods) and Jeph Loeb (Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) are executive produc
  • Marvel Television in association with ABC Studios for Netflix



Blinded as a young boy but imbued with extraordinary senses, Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) fights against injustice by day as a lawyer, and by night as the Super Hero “Daredevil” in modern day Hell’s Kitchen, New York Cit. Marvel’s Daredevil stars Charlie Cox, Rosario Dawson, Vincent D’Onofrio, Deborah Ann Woll, Elden Henson, Scott Glenn, Bob Gunton, Toby Leonard Moore, Vondie Curtis Hall, Ayelet Zurer.


WARNING! SPOILERS for Daredevil Season 1 Follow!----


Daredevil concluded season 1 by having The Man Without Fear finally donning his full red costume to take down the fugitive Wilson Fisk, whom he’d already put in handcuffs by way of the law as Matt Murdock. However, even though the vigilante got his man, the ramifications of his quest are still reverberating throughout his world – possibly into the larger MCU.

Episodes like “Stick” (and Wilson Fisk’s criminal relations) showed us that there is a deeper mythos behind Daredevil’s training as a blind warrior – one that could involve mystical orders and ninjas. Then there’s the small matter of Wilson Fisk, still sitting in his cell; anyone who is a big fan of Daredevil comics knows just how badly The Kingpin can dismantle Daredevil (and Matt Murdock’s) life, given the proper motivation.

There is also some rich mythos to explore so far as characters like Foggy and Karen are concerned; new villains like Bullseye or love interest like Elektra to introduce; and other MCU characters who can join in the fun.


In other words: should be fun.​
[h=2]The Defenders[/h]

The minor surprise in this Daredevil season 2 announcement is that the show will return as soon as 2016. Marvel Netflix has three other shows on the way: AKA Jessica Jones in the latter half of 2015; Luke Cage and Iron Fist, both of which were expected in 2016; and a The Defenders team up event still on the horizon.




At this point, there is little reason to expect that Marvel can’t continue with its Defenders rollout AND add another season of Daredevil on top of that. Even without Netflix reporting official numbers, it’s not hard to tell from public reaction that the show is a hit. Marvel is also upping its output starting in 2016 with its “Phase 3″ movie initiative; there’s talk of an Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. spinoff series for network TV (and maybe an entirely new network show as well).



Clearly Marvel is expanding its universe on all fronts – and Netflix is no exception.
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AKA Jessica Jones will premiere in fall 2015; Luke Cage in 2016; Iron Fist is expected later that year; Daredevilseason 2 will also premiere in 2016; and The Defenders team up event is still on the horizon.Source: Netflix​
 

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[h=1]‘Daredevil’s Charlie Cox Has ‘Heard Nothing’ About Joining ‘Avengers’ On Film[/h]


It’s safe to say that Marvel’s first foray into the realm of original Netflix programming, Daredevil, is yet another success for the studio. After debuting on April 10, the 13-episode season has generated a strong critical and fan response, paving the way for a Defenders team-up down the line and a second season for the Man Without Fear for 2016.


One aspect of Daredevil that audiences responded to was how it naturally referenced events from the established Marvel Cinematic Universe (without coming across as a forced nod to fans). Of course, subtle only gets you so far – and many are wondering if they’ll ever see Matt Murdock cross paths with the likes of Tony Stark and Steve Rogers. Though the rumor mill is indicating that the whole Marvel gang will get together in the second half of Infinity War, it appears that’s all speculation for now.



While speaking with Collider, Daredevil star Charlie Cox was asked about the possibility that his character would show up in one of the many films Marvel has planned, particularly with the increased emphasis on a universe-wide conflict in Civil War. According to the actor, nothing’s in the cards for Murdock to take part in the Avengers Initiative yet:


“I’ve heard nothing. I would love nothing more than to be included in that group, but I’ve heard nothing and I would hate to presume.”


Since we are talking about Marvel here, one would be justified in believing that Cox is simply being coy with his response. It’s no secret that the studio has made a name for planning five steps ahead, leaving multiple options as they plot out their massive multi-platform shared universe.


With the Netflix shows opening up a new corner of the world, it’s plausible to assume that the creative team has at least tossed around the notion of Daredevil joining forces with Earth’s Mightiest, and Kevin Feige has confirmed as much already.

When we spoke with Feige ourselves, he indicated there was no rush to bring the two properties together. For now, the focus is establishing the various Defenders shows on Netflix so that they can stand on their own merits. Slow and steady may be the way to go, but if Marvel has had discussions about where certain people can fit in down the line, could Cox really be shifted to the big screen?


That discussion instantly brings up the notion of a Daredevil/Spider-Man partnership with Spider-Man. While several fans are understandably excited to see Peter Parker square off against a member of the Avengers, the Web Head has teamed up with Murdock in the comics on more than one occasion. Admittedly, those stories tended to be a little darker than some may prefer, but the idea of the two protectors of New York joining forces would be hard for viewers to pass up – should the narrative warrant such a team-up. It may be some time before such a team up could take place, but there’s serious comic precedent for it.



Though Cox is claiming he’s heard nothing about appearances in the films, we would expect that he’d be brought into that realm in some capacity down the line. Marvel is known for #ItsAllConnected , so it’s unlikely that the Defenders facet remains mainly standalone for its entire run. As rumors continue to swirl about the state of the Avengers roster in the post-Age of Ultron world and more and more characters being introduced (to much acclaim even), it would seem like a missed opportunity if crossovers didn’t happen.


After all, Thanos is going to unleash all sorts of hell on Earth – it makes sense for as many heroes as possible to unite against him.
Daredevil is now available exclusively on Netflix.
Source: Collider
 

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Gotham is the biggest piece of shit ever to make it to the TV.
It shouldn't even be compared to Arrow or Flash. It's just that bad

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Gotham is a pretty decent show. Their is an expectation gap I guess.

Arrow's plot has turned to shit, doesn't make any sense. If someone has read DC comics I'm pretty sure they'll know what I'm talking about. Flash is doing good so far, keeping things interesting atleast.

+1 for daredevil, an excellent show.


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[MENTION=38587]maryfarrukh[/MENTION] c'mon that's harsh real harsh ! gotham is doing quite well IMO. the character development and such. finally the RIDDLER tastes blood :D
 
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