[HELP] Not Satisfied with HP 2011x 20" LED

[morff14]

Thanks guys, but i dont really think i can claim warranty for 'not being satisfied with its results'. I need to make sure this is not how it should display results.
Anybody here who has this exact model?

 

[smaaz]

dg31 does have internal graphics and works absolutely fine, just download updated drivers from site and try. why not it could be a faulty product as i see alot of color bleeding .. tht might be the driver issue .. tell me something .. while you connect it to laptop can you sellect its native resolution ??

 

[HAMMER of THOR]

There's something known as having a limited budget and getting the best in that. That's just what he did, use your head man. Anyone would know that 20K LCD's would better than 10K ones.

read my post again... if you are on a budget then do not shift to an lcd/led... wasting money on cheap lcds is better than not buying it... i am using my head... thank you... and who told you that 20k lcds are good?? those are still bad and pathetic as you haven't seen real quality yet...

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Thanks guys, but i dont really think i can claim warranty for 'not being satisfied with its results'. I need to make sure this is not how it should display results.
Anybody here who has this exact model?

just sell the crappy shit and add some money and buy a better monitor...

 

[Ali Man]

Yeah the receipt says 1 yr and the warranty card is attached to the box.

Well actually plugging the laptop display to the led made quite alot of difference. Could it be the graphic card too weak on my PC or just its drivers?. Its the on-board intel g31/33 ...on DG31PR.
And would using a DVI cable make any difference at all?

Thanks

Yea, I'm assuming the display drivers not to be installed on your PC by giving the quality that it already was.

DVI gives much better quality then VGA. DVI and HDMI give the same quality, its just that DVI doesn't carry audio signals with it.

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read my post again... if you are on a budget then do not shift to an lcd/led... wasting money on cheap lcds is better than not buying it... i am using my head... thank you... and who told you that 20k lcds are good?? those are still bad and pathetic as you haven't seen real quality yet...

I was talking about in comparison, of course a 20K LCD would support Full HD which would give much better quality then just HD (720p) resolution monitors.

just sell the crappy shit and add some money and buy a better monitor...

His LCD isn't crappy, his input source just wasn't that good (having no driver's, hence no quality).

 

[jack]

to get the maximum out of your led/lcd display you need to do the following:

--a 20 inch lcd/led native resolution is 1600*900,,,you should set it to this setting to get the best results
--install the correct and original drivers from the website for your graphic adapter,,,
--every lcd/led brightness and contrast ratios need to be tinkered with to get the best results.

 

[LeGenD123]

read my post again... if you are on a budget then do not shift to an lcd/led... wasting money on cheap lcds is better than not buying it...

What should people on budget use then? CRT monitors? The age of CRT monitors is gone now. LCD/LED consume less power and cover lot less space. It is a matter of convenience.

Also, I have experience with some second hand LCDs (imported from USA), which are not just cheap but also give good results. They are unmatched in their price range.

i am using my head... thank you... and who told you that 20k lcds are good?? those are still bad and pathetic as you haven't seen real quality yet...

And how much the real one cost? You think that everybody can afford them?

Obviously, the more you pay; the better you get.

However, you are absolutely wrong if you think that none of the LCD/LED within 20 - 29k range are good. There are some great models but can be hard to find. For example; mine is very good in its price range but is not easy to find in local markets.

just sell the crappy shit and add some money and buy a better monitor...

The display device is not at fault. The user is at fault here. Member Ali Man clarified you on this.

Main point is that no need to generalize on the whole thing on the basis of problem faced by one user alone.

 

[morff14]

You guys are taking this THOR dude too seriously just let him be lol.

Anyway i tried the lcd with and HP G62 and the results seemed fairly satisfactory to me. A high quality video ..4 gb mkv would show better on my lcd than the laptop, but a low res 700 dvdrip would look terrible on the lcd but fairly watchable on the laptop. Is that cuz of the screen size difference?

So its time for a GPU upgrade..suggestions please? dg31pr would support ddr2 i suppose?

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And i say upgrade cuz grphic card drivers seem to be up to date as per intel website

 

[Ali Man]

You guys are taking this THOR dude too seriously just let him be lol.

Anyway i tried the lcd with and HP G62 and the results seemed fairly satisfactory to me. A high quality video ..4 gb mkv would show better on my lcd than the laptop, but a low res 700 dvdrip would look terrible on the lcd but fairly watchable on the laptop. Is that cuz of the screen size difference?

So its time for a GPU upgrade..suggestions please? dg31pr would support ddr2 i suppose?

And i say upgrade cuz grphic card drivers seem to be up to date as per intel website

Its because MKV format's are usually Blu-Ray rip's giving a great HD kinda quality. Although a 700 DVDrip should also look good enough, but not the best. I can't see that how is a GPU upgrade how to do with your computers ram's i.e. DDR2

And you should use the word update when mentioning drivers and not upgrade and this is usually used for hardware upgrades.

 

[smaaz]

700MB DVD RIP LOOKS FIne even on my full hd screen, btw i used to have p5kpl-cm which is based on g31 chipset, watched hd movies and its good .. so is the chipset on your dg31 .. as i suggested have you tried reducing the contrast/brightness to 50% ?? and are you able to select native resolution of your led ?? if no then you need to upgrade drivers.

 

[HAMMER of THOR]

You guys are taking this THOR dude too seriously just let him be lol.

you are right... i just boom and blast

However, you are absolutely wrong if you think that none of the LCD/LED within 20 - 29k range are good.

there is a lot of difference in 20k and 29k....

 

[LeGenD123]

there is a lot of difference in 20k and 29k....

You will not get much jump in quality. It will not be the same like from jumping from 10k range to 20 k range.

Let this video do the talking:

This LED would cost around 23k in Pakistan.

And you can see that it produces accurate colors and crisp images. Watch the whole video.

 

[morff14]

Its because MKV format's are usually Blu-Ray rip's giving a great HD kinda quality. Although a 700 DVDrip should also look good enough, but not the best. I can't see that how is a GPU upgrade how to do with your computers ram's i.e. DDR2

And you should use the word update when mentioning drivers and not upgrade and this is usually used for hardware upgrades.

I dled a 14 gig Bluray of Avator and its a treat to the eyes! The reason why a dvd rip looks worse on it than on a 17 inch laptop screen, i think, is that 700 mb just cant pack enough pixels to be shown decently on a 20 inch screen..hence stretches the pixels..??

Thanks for the advice ( i never noticed the difference ) but in this case i did mean hardware upgrade..i need a better graphic card.. The drivers already are up to date.

And wouldnt i be restriced to Graphic cards with a certain architecture if i have a DDR2 supporting mother board ( As with rams). Or are all GPUs backwards and forward compatible?.. where do they go, PCI?

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700MB DVD RIP LOOKS FIne even on my full hd screen, btw i used to have p5kpl-cm which is based on g31 chipset, watched hd movies and its good .. so is the chipset on your dg31 .. as i suggested have you tried reducing the contrast/brightness to 50% ?? and are you able to select native resolution of your led ?? if no then you need to upgrade drivers.

I can select native resolution, whats the screen size on your full hd screen?

Reducing the contrast % brightness to 50% would be too low imo but ill try that today..thanks

 

[Ali Man]

I dled a 14 gig Bluray of Avator and its a treat to the eyes! The reason why a dvd rip looks worse on it than on a 17 inch laptop screen, i think, is that 700 mb just cant pack enough pixels to be shown decently on a 20 inch screen..hence stretches the pixels..??

Thanks for the advice ( i never noticed the difference ) but in this case i did mean hardware upgrade..i need a better graphic card.. The drivers already are up to date.

And wouldnt i be restriced to Graphic cards with a certain architecture if i have a DDR2 supporting mother board ( As with rams). Or are all GPUs backwards and forward compatible?.. where do they go, PCI?

Actually DVDRips aren't that bad. I myself have tried them on Full HD quality, of course its not as good as Blu Ray rip's or Blu Ray itself, but its not that bad either (I think it varies from movie to movie).

According to the graphic card thing, you can even put the latest one on your DDR2 motherboard seeing that your motherboard has a PCIe x16 slot (Yes, they all are forward and backward compatible). But the thing is that a lot of other factors are also to be considered :

- If your power supply is powerful enough to drive it
- If your processor is again powerful enough without getting into any bottlenecking
- And seeing if your motherboard supports PCIe 1.0 or 2.0 (this usually is important upon seeing what GPU you install. Some need that higher bandwidth, whereas most low-end graphic card's don't).

All I need for you to tell me is that how much budget do you have and that you wanna spend on your Graphic Card. And secondly list your PC spec's so I can see what you got under the hood.

 

[sohaib50k]

Maybe try the led with the vga out of the laptop? or maybe you have tried that.

 

[devnull]

GPU memory is not related to main memory. You can have a GPU that uses GDDR5 or whatever and it will work fine on a motherboard that supports only ddr2 for main memory. I hope you understand.

The built in GPU in the dg31pr isn't bad for 2D pictures and movies. ITs just limited to VGA output. Before you shell out for a new GPU I suggest borrowing a GPU from a friend and using that with the monitor just to see if DVI makes any difference.

edit: BTW one last point. IF you don't have the budget for a high end gpu you could always buy one of those 128MB RAM obsolete ones that are sold in the PG marketplace. Some people import them in lots and they are usually brand spanking new. Should be enough for 2D work and light gaming.

 

[morff14]

Maybe try the led with the vga out of the laptop? or maybe you have tried that.

Already did that and yes there is a significant improvement in picture quality and richness of colors when connected with he laptop vga. Thanks

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Actually DVDRips aren't that bad. I myself have tried them on Full HD quality, of course its not as good as Blu Ray rip's or Blu Ray itself, but its not that bad either (I think it varies from movie to movie).

According to the graphic card thing, you can even put the latest one on your DDR2 motherboard seeing that your motherboard has a PCIe x16 slot (Yes, they all are forward and backward compatible). But the thing is that a lot of other factors are also to be considered :

- If your power supply is powerful enough to drive it
- If your processor is again powerful enough without getting into any bottlenecking
- And seeing if your motherboard supports PCIe 1.0 or 2.0 (this usually is important upon seeing what GPU you install. Some need that higher bandwidth, whereas most low-end graphic card's don't).

All I need for you to tell me is that how much budget do you have and that you wanna spend on your Graphic Card. And secondly list your PC spec's so I can see what you got under the hood.

Its DG31PR, E7400, 2 GB ram, 450W PSU. I'd been needing a card that can play fifa pes halo 4 etc. But i want it to make the best out of my sony 60 sxrd hdtv when connected to it. HDMI output is a must!

Thanks. But before going for a card i need to weed out the possibilities of a bad lcd. Yesterday, I noticed these purple lines ( as if marking the territory on a srime scene) around the black areas of a low res video..what's up with that?

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GPU memory is not related to main memory. You can have a GPU that uses GDDR5 or whatever and it will work fine on a motherboard that supports only ddr2 for main memory. I hope you understand.

The built in GPU in the dg31pr isn't bad for 2D pictures and movies. ITs just limited to VGA output. Before you shell out for a new GPU I suggest borrowing a GPU from a friend and using that with the monitor just to see if DVI makes any difference.

edit: BTW one last point. IF you don't have the budget for a high end gpu you could always buy one of those 128MB RAM obsolete ones that are sold in the PG marketplace. Some people import them in lots and they are usually brand spanking new. Should be enough for 2D work and light gaming.

I dont happen to have a friend with a gpu to lend. but taking the lcd to gpu might be an option if i can find somebody nice enough . I'm holding on on buying the GPU for now untill im done investigating the lcd itself.

Thanks!

 

[smaaz]

man as stated before used my onboard graphics from p5kpl-cm via vga cable to signal my monitor and never had any problems, full hd is 1920x1080 yours led has a resolution of 1600x900, getting a gpu is always good btw and purple lines .. man seriously just return it

 

[morff14]

I'm gonna settle with this for now as i cant get into the hassle of warranties. It's pretty decent with High quality video content and that's all I require of it atm.

Thanks all.

 

[abobobilly]

^ Fair enough.

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