MULTI Grid 2 |OT| Slippin' and Sliddin'

Bad Mofo

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Developers: Codemasters Southam
Publishers: Codemasters
Engine: EGO 3.0
Platforms: Windows, PS3 and X360
Genre: Cooking/Dating Sim
GRID 2

In pre-production for two years, GRID 2 is now in full development on the latest evolution of the award-winning EGO Game Technology Platform. Following the success of GRID, which set new standards for damage, AI, visuals and introduced the Flashback time rewind feature - now adopted by many racing games – GRID 2 will again raise the gameplay and technological bar for motorsport gaming and remain true to the series’ core value – it’s all about the race.[/QUOTE]

Their words, not mine.








New feature: Live Routes (patent pending I presume)

In a LiveRoutes event, you don’t know what’s coming next and it turns each race into a test of your racecraft, car handling and reactions on circuits that cannot be learnt. In both career mode and online, LiveRoutes offers near limitless possibilities in every race and it’s a great leveller, even for the most experienced racing game players.[/QUOTE]

And who doesn't want to play the most expensive game of all time? I mean seriously, you get a real car with this one special edition:

At £125,000, the GRID 2: Mono Edition has set a new Guinness World Records™ title for the “Most Expensive Video Game Commercially Available – Special Edition” and will include a range of extras for the buyer to enjoy the ultimate experience of racing the car in-game and driving it in real life. The GRID 2: Mono Edition includes:

  • A copy of GRID 2 for PlayStation 3 featuring bespoke packaging artwork
  • BAC Mono supercar in exclusive GRID 2 livery
  • A day at the BAC factory, which includes a factory tour and time spent with technicians, to customise the BAC Mono for size and specifications
  • A GRID 2: Mono Edition branded Bell Racing helmet
  • Race suit, boots & gloves all made to measure in BAC Mono and GRID 2 branding
  • A PlayStation 3
So, the first few reviews are in as well:

IGN:

8.0/10

Its continued shift away from its sim pedigree will still disappoint those of us who fondly recall the Race Driver games of old, but it still a great, modern package. A well-curated car list, a great sense of speed, and a well-thought out career mode combine in a racer that is a lot of fun to play through.
Edge:

9/10

Codemasters had a hard act to follow in Grid, but with this sequel it’s delivered a dazzling package that can proudly take its place among the best racing games of this generation. It not only smooths off nearly all of the awkward edges that have plagued the studio’s ongoing attempts to cohere its racing games with driver-focused storylines, but it does so with enough pomp and spectacle to send current-generation hardware off with a memorable bang.[/QUOTE]

Joystiq:

3/5

Grid 2 has its moments, but every racing game comes down to the relationship between car and driver, and here it is almost exclusively an adversarial one. Were the cars more fun to drive, the events more coherently constructed and the AI given a sense of a self-preservation, Grid 2's best moments could have been the norm, instead of the exception that proves the rule.
Oh well.....

Downloading it as we speak. I'm starved for a good racing game, Will update with my opinion by tomorrow morning I hope.
 
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abobobilly

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Nah that fits perfectly for GRID. :D Thumbs up for the OT.

Have been waiting long for this game and its finally here.

Call me spoiled or whatever but i have developed this "sense of amusement" against GRID & DIRT franchise. Having spend hundreds of hours in Shift 2, i feel Codemaster need to improve the controls, telemetry and mechanics of the car. Shift 2 embedded real time telemetry in the game and despite having other problems, have set the standard how a racing game of this kind should be made (my expectations are great from the Project Cars)

Or maybe GRID has always focused on Arcade Racing w/ a slight touch of Simulation? :cantspeak:
 

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LOVED GRID! Had been eagerly waiting for this, still holding on to my wheel for this.

So when's it coming out on PC?
 

Bad Mofo

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Or maybe GRID has always focused on Arcade Racing w/ a slight touch of Simulation? :cantspeak:
Anyone under the impression that the first Grid was a sim is really delusional. Like you said, it's got a pinch of simulation blood running in its over arcade racer body.

For me, I hate the way Burnout or the recent NFS games handle, and hardcore sims can be a little daunting and just plain boring sometimes (looking at you, GT5). Grid struck the perfect balance when it came out in 2008. I remember because it was the third game I ever got on the PS3!

Most of the reviews speak oh how tough the game's AI is, which I can imagine can be really frustrating. But these are the same reviewers that said Blur was a horrible game, and I loved that one.

34% done. God bless PSN and its day 1 digital initiative :)
 

abobobilly

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Anyone under the impression that the first Grid was a sim is really delusional. Like you said, it's got a pinch of simulation blood running in its over arcade racer body.
Grid struck the perfect balance when it came out in 2008. I remember because it was the third game I ever got on the PS3!
I am not hating the game for what its not. But i do hate it for what it tries to be.

I have spent millions of hours in GRID, was a Huge Player online with Insane Drift Score and Impressive Lap Times. So I do acknowledge the PURE FUNNN. But i can't seem to digest the paper like handling of cars, NEVER seemed to appreciate me much. The the driving experience which NOW, makes the game feel rather boring to me :(

For me, I hate the way Burnout or the recent NFS games handle,
Wait what? So you like Arcade and can't adjust for one of the best arcade games? The car's weight was pretty obvious in Burnout (say Paradise) which I like the most.

Not criticizing or anything.

Most of the reviews speak oh how tough the game's AI is, which I can imagine can be really frustrating.
These are more like early impressions i believe. Because i have personally been through the same scenario when i first started GRID (1). Later in the game on very hard difficulty was what satisfied me, especially on drifting :D

But these are the same reviewers that said Blur was a horrible game, and I loved that one.
That was one underrated game. Most of the people never understood the focus of the game as it was more ... arcade/action oriented. LOVED IT.

34% done. God bless PSN and its day 1 digital initiative :)
God bless load shedding <_< Still haven't crossed 25%. 2Mb connection.
 

Bad Mofo

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^ have you played Project Gotham Racing on the Xbox? PGR2 on the Xbox was and still is the best racing game I've ever played. Play PGR4 on the 360 if you get the chance, you'll see the kind of arcade/sim balance that is satisfying.

Burnout and NFS usually boil down to being too arcadey. I loose interest because all the races kinda play the same most of the time. There isn't any challenge apart from how big of an asshole you can be on the road :)

Grid never wanted to be a sim, and I think the balance it struck was good if not perfect.

And dude! Blur! Such an underrated game. And while it is really arcadey, the added combat makes it really difficult to be offensive, save yourself from other people's attacks AND drive around on challenging tracks on the same time.

Game installing now!
 

abobobilly

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Just finished installing it and played 3-4 races first hand.

My Initial Impressions: WHAT THE FRICCKIN' FALUDA CODEMASTER.?? Y U REMOVED THE GODAMNED COCKPIT VIEW?

Then there are the Camera Controls. Nothing what you call "Smooth". If you try to look Left, Right, the camera will change view without any animation.
Downside? Looks & Feels Horrible
Plus Side? No Animation will get your focus quickly back on the road.

On hardest difficulty, the races are So Meh (Or maybe i am too pro considering i have spent hundreds of hours in GRID 1 online :p). But i am sure the difficulty level will harden once i get faster cars.

Now, the most important thing. There is no Setting to adjust the Deadzone or Streeing, Braking, or even Accelerator. On a keyboard, these settings are most important because having a Very Sensitive keyboard will TRASH & DESTROY your gameplay experience, especially on high speeds where slight mistake (intentionally or unintentionally) will have preposterous consequences.

There are so many things i have found WRONG in this game that i am doubtful if i should really call this game GRID "2". It was supposed to be better than the 1st.

Don't get me wrong. I am a big Lover of GRID franchise of Codemaster thats why i am so angry on some specific things.

Guess what. Inorder to have Fast Lap Times and to Cut Corners, I have ALWAYS used the Cockpit view inorder to get the Perfect Sense of Car's behavior. Its non-availability is making me MAAADDDD <_<

Bad Mofo! There goes your "Balance" to Hell. Thanks to Codemasters for this absolutely awesome fcukup.
 
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I was really looking forward to this but your review has left me disappointed. Guess I will remove this from the download list then.
 

abobobilly

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I was really looking forward to this but your review has left me disappointed. Guess I will remove this from the download list then.
A harsh fact.

The things i have mentioned will barely hold some of the people back.

While i will not be able to enjoy it to the level of GRID 1, i will still play & finish it because thats how i roll. No seriously, when i start a game, I FINISH IT. No matter how boring, lame a game is.
 

abobobilly

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WOAH WOAH WOAH

Where you guys getting at? :S

These are "MY" initial impressions, NOT MY LAST.

Why don't you guys try the game and get your own views? Hm? How about it?

I am sure if you have played GRID 1, you maybe a better judge of the game than me. If you haven't, i hardly think you are gonna notice anything 'bad' about it.
 

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A harsh fact.

The things i have mentioned will barely hold some of the people back.

While i will not be able to enjoy it to the level of GRID 1, i will still play & finish it because thats how i roll. No seriously, when i start a game, I FINISH IT. No matter how boring, lame a game is.
The thing is I'm downloading metro LL and was about to pause that for this but that doesn't seem like such a good option.
Will dl this later.
 
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abobobilly

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After a Promo Race, i entered that Objective Oriented Racing. "Overtake in shortest possible Time" ... As much as i like the idea, i just can't get myself to cut corner with those horrid Bumper Cams. <_< WHY CODEMASTER WHYYYYYYY :(

Anyway, those races are extremely tough and require aggression + agility. I was able to finish it after atleast 5-6 tries. Though Very FUNN.
[MENTION=52134]saad07[/MENTION]! Prefer Metro Last Light over this. :ninja:
 
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Bad Mofo

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Bad Mofo! There goes your "Balance" to Hell. Thanks to Codemasters for this absolutely awesome fcukup.
I don't know man, it isn't THAT bad :)

First up, I love the bumper cam view. I play every racing game in bumper cam. So I really didn't miss the cockpit view.

I played around 4 races yesterday as well. And yes, it doesn't feel leaps and bounds better than Grid1. But still the races were entertaining. Maybe I had forgotten how drift-heavy the races were. The AI is ruthless, and out to spin you out every time you take a turn.

I really haven't even started the league career mode. Overall, I'd say it isn't a bad game at all. It's not a sim, but Codemasters never said it was going to be one. I'll reserve my opinion until a further couple of races.
 

abobobilly

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I have entered the World Rally events. Difficulty level getting tougher slowly and if there is only one thing i can appreciate about this game, its the A.I. which is tougher this time and always keeps you on the edge on your seat.

What i can't digest ... is the availability of Flashbacks. Even on the hard Difficulty, i still have FIVE of them? :S I never use Flashbacks (unless i am playing Endurance Races) but given the difficulty level, they shouldn't be more than ONE or TWO. Nice Job Codemasters. Really <_<

I just can't get myself to enjoy the game fully because of the limitations. Evertime i start a race, GRID 1 pops up in my mind how awesome & complete it was.

Its BAD, Bad Mofo! :( Because this way it feels like GRID 0.5 (not 2) ... with some features trimmed down, to do it All Over Again.
 
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