Azadi march lookout thread - PTI calls off dharna

[Ottoman]

Forum debates just aren't for some people. Whinging is the last and most common resort when somebody loses an argument or lacks the ability to counter argue.

 

[Dark Slayer]

Jis shaks k right or left per chutal kartoos hon wo kya tabdeeli laye ga.
No to so called tabdeeli.

 

[Ottoman]

Jis shaks k right or left per chutal kartoos hon wo kya tabdeeli laye ga.
No to so called tabdeeli.

Read upon Turkey's Erdogan and Malaysia's Mahatir. Their companions weren't angels sent from the sky. They were from the status quo and belonged to various existing political parties.

What mattered was who was leading them.

 

[Dark Slayer]

Read upon Turkey's Erdogan and Malaysia's Mahatir. Their companions weren't angels sent from the sky. They were from the status quo and belonged to various existing political parties.

What mattered was who was leading them.

Achi baat to main bhi karlo bhai haath main mike laykar. He must make KPK a model province then he should give lecture 7-10pm and it will be backed by his parties performance and I'll second that blindly.
Aaj to PTI workers ko Shaikh Rasheed bhi HEERA lagta hay kyon k wo aaj unkay leader ko back kar raha hay. But I still remember that show where IK said "khuda mujhay shaikh rasheed jaisa leader na banaye" and all the bull crap these two had thrown on each other. What IK is doing is munafikat having these guys as his companions, or shayad aap is ki interpretation is tarah karain k ye to wakt ki zarorat hay and when it comes to IK the old and abused principle of "Nazarye Zarorat" would be ok for you as its followed by IK.

 

[Ottoman]

Achi baat to main bhi karlo bhai haath main mike laykar. He must make KPK a model province then he should give lecture 7-10pm and it will be backed by his parties performance and I'll second that blindly.
Aaj to PTI workers ko Shaikh Rasheed bhi HEERA lagta hay kyon k wo aaj unkay leader ko back kar raha hay. But I still remember that show where IK said "khuda mujhay shaikh rasheed jaisa leader na banaye" and all the bull crap these two had thrown on each other. What IK is doing is munafikat having these guys as his companions, or shayad aap is ki interpretation is tarah karain k ye to wakt ki zarorat hay and when it comes to IK the old and abused principle of "Nazarye Zarorat" would be ok for you as its followed by IK.

This reminds me of the Father,Son and Donkey story. There was a time when people said IK doesn't have electables and known faces. Now that he has both, the same people want them thrown out of the party. And for every good thing his govt. does in KPK, there will always be something lacking which his opponents would pounce upon.

In short, the list of demands would never end. Haters gonna hate. So it's useless arguing with such people. And I would advise you to do the same.

 

[Dark Slayer]

This reminds me of the Father,Son and Donkey story. There was a time when people said IK doesn't have electables and known faces. Now that he has both, the same people want them thrown out of the party. And for every good thing his govt. does in KPK, there will always be something lacking which his opponents would pounce upon.

In short, the list of demands would never end. Haters gonna hate. So it's useless arguing with such people. And I would advise you to do the same.

Bhai meray. This is the issue with IK, he is all about Talk, but he should also walk the talk.
I agree with stance about change, but the way he is trying to bring the change is not good.
System can be rectified if u remain in the system and try to change it from within.

 

[LeGenD123]

Bhai meray. This is the issue with IK, he is all about Talk, but he should also walk the talk.
I agree with stance about change, but the way he is trying to bring the change is not good.
System can be rectified if u remain in the system and try to change it from within.

Who will change the system?

 

[abobobilly]

System can be rectified if u remain in the system and try to change it from within.

Okay. Lets try to do that on a smaller level. Say, you are working in a small office, some kind of Department. Your higher-ups do everything 'the wrong way'. You don't want to become a part of this system, and try to act all honest.

What do you reckon, will it take to change that system? Just HOW exactly would you try to change that system, while being A PART of that system? I am interested to hear your take on this matter. It'll be interesting to see if you choose to "Stay silent" and "accept" that system.

You may not be able to provide a "real-life" assessment on this matter, if you have never experienced your professional life.

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Meanwhile ... about that Geo Inteview of that 4-Start General ...

"Gen Baig.IK-TUQ acting on USA conspiracy. Sir who backed yr conspiracy in 1990 when u told ISI give Rs140m 2 politicians& u never punished?" ~ Rauf Kalasra

 

[Dark Slayer]

Who will change the system?

Imran Khan or any other person who is willing.
But the real question is, how to do it? and my friend the way IK wanna change is not good at all, if NS resigns and/or Parliament is dissolved then it will set a precedent which will be followed by every party who is opposing the Govt of time and trust me bringing 5 to 10k people is not a problem for even the lowest ranked party of Pakistan, there are always blind followers.

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IK should have moved for election reforms by tabling a bill in parliament for biomatric system of voting, mardam shumari, new halka bandi, restructuring EC, amendment in election laws etc and that would have changed the system.

 

[Leon]

Imran Khan or any other person who is willing.
But the real question is, how to do it? and my friend the way IK wanna change is not good at all, if NS resigns and/or Parliament is dissolved then it will set a precedent which will be followed by every party who is opposing the Govt of time and trust me bringing 5 to 10k people is not a problem for even the lowest ranked party of Pakistan, there are always blind followers.

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IK should have moved for election reforms by tabling a bill in parliament for biomatric system of voting, mardam shumari, new halka bandi, restructuring EC, amendment in election laws etc and that would have changed the system.

No offense but calling IK awaam 5 to 10k is blind in itself.

 

[Pleasant]

Mere bhai last speech logo kaafi logo ne sunni thi awam ko achi lagi aur yeh party ek arsay se chilla rahi hai new provinces banao aur yeh valid demand hai.

Yahan bhai ki thori si bhi tareef kerna haraam hai.

Dosron ki rozi roti lagi ha karachi se is liye new province banay nahi detay

 

[LeGenD123]

Imran Khan or any other person who is willing.

How will he (or any other person who is willing) change the system?

But the real question is, how to do it? and my friend the way IK wanna change is not good at all, if NS resigns and/or Parliament is dissolved then it will set a precedent which will be followed by every party who is opposing the Govt of time and trust me bringing 5 to 10k people is not a problem for even the lowest ranked party of Pakistan, there are always blind followers.

First of all, PTI have millions of supporters, not 5 - 10K people.

Secondly, why do you think that dharna started? Do you consider the current Parliament having a justified mandate?

IK should have moved for election reforms by tabling a bill in parliament for biomatric system of voting, mardam shumari, new halka bandi, restructuring EC, amendment in election laws etc and that would have changed the system.

You really live in Pakistan or are you really so naïve?

Anybody who believes that PTI have not attempted this route earlier and that status-quo mafia would support this kind of bill, needs to stay out of this discussion.

Iss Parliament kei Speaker nei bhi STAY ORDER liya hua hai Vote Counting kei against. Go figure.

 

[StrikerX]

Imran Khan or any other person who is willing.
But the real question is, how to do it? and my friend the way IK wanna change is not good at all, if NS resigns and/or Parliament is dissolved then it will set a precedent which will be followed by every party who is opposing the Govt of time and trust me bringing 5 to 10k people is not a problem for even the lowest ranked party of Pakistan, there are always blind followers.

Don't be so naive and that is a good precedence to set. If governments don't do their job and are instead doing ayashi then every person has a right to protest and demand resignations. If the government is doing its job 'properly' or in a good manner, even if someone comes with 5-10k people demanding resignations that wouldn't matter at all.

Anyone remember Iceland riots/protests, anyone?

 

[Pleasant]

I Salute :salute: to everyone who went to karachi jalsa, its a big slap to those ppl who says they are keyboardist who just comments over here and never and doesnt been to there jalsa's
can't believe the such turn out still not able to believe those images

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[MENTION=1283]hasanJ[/MENTION] [MENTION=4999]Pleasant[/MENTION] going to the jalsa today?

Not in Pakistan would have been to :mushy:

 

[LeGenD123]

Imran Khan might hold a jalsa in Lahore as well. If this happens, I will attend (and this will be my first). Time to show some real strength against status-quo in Lahore.

 

[Pleasant]

Imran khan in Karachi airport waiting in Queue

 

[StrikerX]

Imran khan in Karachi airport waiting in Queue

Ha Ha the security guy taking a pic

 

[Tultras]

Did Imran khan board the aircraft on time?

#askingtherealquestions

 

[Pleasant]

[video=facebook;841064679250253]https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=841064679250253&set=vb.108719462484782&type=2&theater[/video]

 

[StrikerX]

Did Imran khan board the aircraft on time?

#askingtherealquestions

He's going on Tareen's plane so doesn't matter :crazy: