Weird scenario

[HAMMER of THOR]

The ignorance in our society, sadly, go both ways :S People are educated, yet completely jahil when it comes to such matters. Kabhi Haqooq-ul-Ibaad ka naam suna hay?

Maybe from your house's top, their house can be seen completely. There is no 'honor' problem here. The problem here, is simple "privacy invasion".

Just discuss with them, about this issue personally. If there is a educated person in their house, talk to him/her, or find a 3rd person from your area to act as a coordinator between you. Ask humbly, what exactly is the issue. If they think their house is overly-visibly from your top, then Yes ... STOP going to your top floor.

If you still want to, then choose a location on top floor, where no one can see you. You don't necessarily have to SHOW everyone, that you are there. Alternatively, you can cover the front area of your house (where you, or their house is visible), with tents or whatever.

Also, The response your mother gave "its our house, we can do whatever we want" is 10 times more jahil than your own act. I am pretty sure about the hypocrisy your mother would have presented, if she had her own daughter at stake.

If you think that you have a sense of respect, morality, and understanding, because of your education and/or independent thinking, try not to be the ditto of your mother's response, and act accordingly i.e. A Problem Solver.

i agree with you but i would not call someone's mom a jahil.... that is wrong of you and you should apologize... if you read my post i told him why his mother said what she said...
[MENTION=104069]puppet[/MENTION]... yaar it is very bad if you are disturbing their privacy as it is a FACT that it is disturbed by people walking on roofs of neighbouring houses(the reason i don't sit outside much with my new wife or my sisters)... and if you are mega obese and 50 years old then you can work out properly by running outside or some park or go to a gym. There is this bit of concern though about what you said that other neighbors do it too and they can look inside that house as well so why are you being pointed out(maybe you being young is what they have a problem with). But it is very indecent to be on the roof for long time where everyone can see you and their privacy is being disturbed. I have to admit that it would piss me off as well. You can always talk to someone outside your house who has some pawa in dealing with such things... but rather than anything you can just do nothing. Stop walking on the roof and see if any problem arises. It is a sahih hadeeth in which our prophet saww said that if bowing in front of someone(backing away from a conflict) lessens your respect then take it from him(saww) in the afterlife. So there ya go... problem solved...

 

[abobobilly]

i agree with you but i would not call someone's mom a jahil.... that is wrong of you and you should apologize... if you read my post i told him why his mother said what she said...

I am sorry but WTF?

Where did i say such a thing?

I was passing a general comment about people's behavior in certain situations. You'd be a fool to think that i would call out to anyone's mother like that.

 

[HAMMER of THOR]

I am sorry but WTF?

Where did i say such a thing?

I was passing a general comment about people's behavior in certain situations. You'd be a fool to think that i would call out to anyone's mother like that.

it may not have been your intention but it looks exactly like that...

Also, The response your mother gave "its our house, we can do whatever we want" is 10 times more jahil than your own act

 

[abobobilly]

it may not have been your intention but it looks exactly like that...

A Jahil response doesn't warrant someone to be Jahil. Without retracting my statement, i still want to highlight the grave issue there is; the projected hypocrisy about someone else's daughters/privacy, or whatever.

But i understand your concern. So, If this does feel like what you said above, then i apologize in advance.

 

[Thugnificent]

First, don't stoop to their level. What they are doing is totally retarded with the threats.
Second, stop going on the roof. If you really wanna walk, goto some public park. Remember, neighbors' are very important in Islam. You shouldn't let your ego get in the way. If something you're doing is disturbing your neighbors, backing off should be the right thing. Their demand isn't unreasonable as well.

 

[NaNoW]

It is your house...You have complete right to walk wherever the hell you want to...If the honor and respect of daughters is the issue here, ask them to install blackened windows, put up a shade or make the wall higher.
its their problem, not yours.

 

[TheRaja]

Some very good points. Community alliance or a committee is a very powerful tool to handle all sorts of issues. Your father should approach them. You should discuss with your father.

Tum kitny years sy same colony mai reh rhy ho..? Unhy kitna time hwa aye hwe usi colony mai..? Colony ki koi proper union etc hai..?

Agr koi proper system hai security ka aur union ka to jo leading members hain union ky sb sy phly to unhy approach kro aur confidence mai lo sari situation bata kr, they will definitely help you. Akely stand nai lena aisi situation mai direct rent py jo family hai unky against, house ka jo owner hai jis ny rent py diya hai us sy meeting kro union members ky sath... Colonies and Gali Muhalay ky problems ka long term solution nai nikalta kabi bhi police ko approach krny sy meri advice yehi hai ky Closer friends, neighbors, union members ko sara scene batao apni taraf sy puri koshish kro matter aram sy solve krny ki. In case agr nai hota to Police wala option to hai he lakin us sy mamla bigray ga agr log ultay hain to....

The ignorance in our society, sadly, go both ways :S People are educated, yet completely jahil when it comes to such matters. Kabhi Haqooq-ul-Ibaad ka naam suna hay?

Maybe from your house's top, their house can be seen completely. There is no 'honor' problem here. The problem here, is simple "privacy invasion".

Just discuss with them, about this issue personally. If there is a educated person in their house, talk to him/her, or find a 3rd person from your area to act as a coordinator between you. Ask humbly, what exactly is the issue. If they think their house is overly-visibly from your top, then Yes ... STOP going to your top floor.

If you still want to, then choose a location on top floor, where no one can see you. You don't necessarily have to SHOW everyone, that you are there. Alternatively, you can cover the front area of your house (where you, or their house is visible), with tents or whatever.

Also, The response your mother gave "its our house, we can do whatever we want" is 10 times more Harsh/Offending[edited] than your own act. I am pretty sure about the hypocrisy your mother would have presented, if she had her own daughter at stake.

If you think that you have a sense of respect, morality, and understanding, because of your education and/or independent thinking, try not to be the ditto of your mother's response, and act accordingly i.e. A Problem Solver.

 

[puppet]

i am living in this area for a long time and no one ever said anything stupid against me like this , we are from educated and respectfull background why i'd do something shitty in the area where i live to ruin the rep of my parents? , i am in BS i've girls around me there too , i never crossed the limits too in class or uni , then why dafuq i'd invade someone privacy?
2nd thing i didnt went alone i had my mom along me , so she knows that i didnt do anything uncivilized act on the roof , and we have a garden in the house i also whenever free i go in there to do some gardening and they peak over me and see me like i am stealing something from their property , so i am invading the privacy and doing shit to their daughters while doing gardening too? , i dont know why dafuq they dont bear anyone around them but everyone else in the neighbour is like family we never had this kinda stupid experience , even no one else had

@ those who said i do workout , i dont do this work , i am a dev and i do stick with my pc all the day , as i said i was just free after my exams so i went to the roof just for 1 Abuses will lead to ban day and i didnt even peaked anywhere or anyone else home or anyones face , and i dont even care about someones daughter in the neighbourhood ,

and if someone is talking about that i did bad act then is it good that in that house they let their all the men walk on their roof and peak here and there in other houses? and no one ofc did complaint about it that they are invadin any privacy

anyways we are living in the front of that house and the next house to that one they are also worried because those peoples acts and they are teasing them too , so yesterday we both houses complaint to the owner of that house, lets see what'd be the solution

 

[KDKHAN]

Dear you are somehow disturbing their privacy and I seriously doubt there is something special which they don't want to be noticed / observed.

If that was a normal family like yours, they would not have objected so seriously. However, to protect some specific private affairs, they are using this tactic that no one in the street / mohallah may interfere into their affairs.

While you may not do anything objectionable, dont sit idle but keep thinking and doing something to manage any untoward situation. Tell you father to take the matter seriously. Bring into the notice of all neighbors. Informing the owner of the house is the right move. Also discuss with some mature police official. Try to find out what is the business of their males. What is source of their income. Where from they are basically. What is level of their education. How about their financial condition etc. How old are the chicks and what does they do.

 

[abobobilly]

Oh I am sorry Mister puppet.. I took you for some grown up person.
My mistake.

I am out.

 

[puppet]

well i think i got the solution to talk to the community

 

[Wolfy]

Oh I am sorry Mister puppet.. I took you for some grown up person.
My mistake.

I am out. 

some people are bound to make mistakes and learn from it..

@Blastwave bara hoja and don't feed this kid with hatered and ignorance.
@NaNoW wasnt expecting that from you.. kinda disappointed.
@puppet remember this and it will help you a lot in your life.. give others the same level of respect as you want for yourself from them. its a two way road. put that egocentric bastard attitude a side and think otherwise.

 

[puppet]

some people are bound to make mistakes and learn from it..

@Blastwave bara hoja and don't feed this kid with hatered and ignorance.
@NaNoW wasnt expecting that from you.. kinda disappointed.
@puppet remember this and it will help you a lot in your life.. give others the same level of respect as you want for yourself from them. its a two way road. put that egocentric bastard attitude a side and think otherwise.

but what if someone else doesnt wanna corporate ? :/ thats whats happening right now

 

[Wolfy]

^I would love to hear your efforts made to calm this situation till now.. if there is none than its your turn.

 

[cobby]

Bahai kui lannister wala scene to nai tha jo 1 time roof pr aap k jane se itna bara scene ho Gia .

on serious note , the best solution is talks , u Shuld have used union of the society to present the issue if that ain't work then go for the owner . Little bit heated argument makes matters more worse

some people do get offended if some one walks on roof specially the ones whoz houses are in front of urs .

 

[puppet]

some people do get offended if some one walks on roof specially the ones whoz houses are in front of urs .

i know what are you saying but ap mery ghar aa k dekho is wakat 12 baj rahien hien and unki chaat pe 2 adami phr rahien hien peaking over the walls of roof around ,

koi tu kuch ni khe ra , jab tak koi banda ulti harkat na kary tab tak kisi ko kia problem honi he banda khudi apna ghunna karay ga ,

and same thing when i did k me uper giya and i didnt do anything the only fault i had k unhon ne mujh uper dekha? n i was just there for 10 mins i think ,

ye tu wo baat hoi k tera kuta kuta sada Abuses will lead to ban tommy ,

aisay hi hum b offensive ho sakty hien k ye apne ghar kiun males ko chaat pe charhaty hien ,

aur mery charne se phly b unke gahr males charty thy , tu kia unko meri activity hi illegeal lagi?

anyways the owner knows the situation , lets see

 

[cobby]

i know what are you saying but ap mery ghar aa k dekho is wakat 12 baj rahien hien and unki chaat pe 2 adami phr rahien hien peaking over the walls of roof around ,

koi tu kuch ni khe ra , jab tak koi banda ulti harkat na kary tab tak kisi ko kia problem honi he banda khudi apna ghunna karay ga ,

and same thing when i did k me uper giya and i didnt do anything the only fault i had k unhon ne mujh uper dekha? n i was just there for 10 mins i think ,

ye tu wo baat hoi k tera kuta kuta sada Abuses will lead to ban tommy ,

aisay hi hum b offensive ho sakty hien k ye apne ghar kiun males ko chaat pe charhaty hien ,

aur mery charne se phly b unke gahr males charty thy , tu kia unko meri activity hi illegeal lagi?

anyways the owner knows the situation , lets see

in that case they dont deserve to live in that neighborhood ,cause if they are so protective of female thingy , then they shuld not allow there own males to roam freely on roofs .

I hope the owner of the house put some sense in their minds

 

[Blastwave]

Keep us posted if there are any updates

 

[JRaza]

BHAI tension na lo Allah behtar kary ga, Zyada logon sy direct ulajhny ki zarorat nai Owner py pressure daalo agr koi izat daar behen beti wala hwa to khudi sharminda ho ky ghr khali krwa ly ga aur tmhra prob solve ho jyega. Baki maine zyada comments nai perhy lakin koi advice dy rha tha workout etc... Workout is good for health lakin en conditions mai tum workout sy kia kro gy bhai don't even think about it to solve your problem, tmhy kon sa WWE krni hai unsy (Aur wesy bhi workout sy tmhy tyaar hony mai minimum 6 months lagy gy... )... Apni taraf sy koshish kro andar andar thanday tareekay sy mamla solve ho jye nai hota to Police, aur police ko bhi tum rent walo ka nai kaho gy unhy Owner ki taraf sy batana ky tum complain ly ky gye thy aur owner ny yh yh kaha.... HAAAN agr owner sy bhi zooor hain wo log aur owner ky kehny py bhi ghr khali nai kr rhy to owner ko kehna sath chalay thanay complain reg krny...

 

[dilawer]

Stop walking on the feking roof bro. They might be suspicious that you're "taaroo marroo" taaring their daughters. So, just keep away from it.