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[9Meez]

Well, lets see. These visuals in the tech demo shouldn't be expected for at least first 2 years of the next gen cycle. These seem to be pushing full boundaries of console.

 

[NaNoW]

All hail next-gen :lol:

gotta hide world streaming somehow



one thing I can say, is every developer and AAA studio is going "okay, now how do we achieve this"
There is a ton of really impressive tech underneath all that, however as pubg, fortnight and minecraft has proved..Graphics are just one ingredient

 

[Faddi]

I don't get it. How can people expect a 500$ ~~~ console to do 4k 60fps with ray tracing on. A 1200$ RTX 2080 Ti isn't even capable of doing that. To be honest i was very impressed with the tech demo. Achieving such visual fidelity on console is a miracle on its own. So we should appreciate it and the upcoming years are going to be even sweeter.

 

[Necrokiller]

It is a next-gen demo and I don't see what is so next-gen about 30 fps. It felt like Epic telling console gamers, "tum sala ghulam log 30 fps pe he rahay ga". [emoji14]

I sure hope this doesn't become a next-gen standard, even for single player games. The least I would expect is an option to switch to 60 fps in every game, even if devs target 30 fps and a higher resolution as a default.

I think given the option and opportunity, people will go to any extent to play games restricted to 30fps on a system, at 60fps instead :lol:

in case y'all were looking to try some of the single-player games on the Switch.

Astral Chain and Fire Emblem run at 60fps via a mod, so better than the original hardware.

Xenoblade Definitive edition and Xenoblade 2 don't work afaik, but definitely worth checking out once they do.

Not sure what's so wrong if SolitarySoldier wants the standards to be raised that actually affects gameplay experience instead of moaarr polygons and triangles.

 

[Chandoo]

I think owing to the actually modern and relevant CPU structure the new consoles are getting in tandem with the navi 2 GPUs, and not the under-performing even for their time Jaguars and underpowered mobile GPUs, we will definitely see *more* 60 FPS games or games with 60 FPS options this time around.

However, companies will always focus primary marketing on the higher resolution cause that makes for a better and easier to digest buzz-point.

 

[Necrokiller]

and not the under-performing even for their time Jaguars and underpowered mobile GPUs

what the falooda is this.... this is what developers and VPs were saying about PS4 back in the day

 

[Chandoo]

what the falooda indeed, despite the jaguar cores, a PS4 still met and maybe exceeded the average gaming PC of 2013, the year it came out.

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gaming/262481-the-average-gaming-pc-5-years-ago-vs-today.html

 

[Necrokiller]

what the falooda indeed, despite the jaguar cores, a PS4 still met and maybe exceeded the average gaming PC of 2013, the year it came out.

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gaming/262481-the-average-gaming-pc-5-years-ago-vs-today.html

A Core i3 is also a dual-core CPU from 2013 that was handily beating the 8-core PS4 despite the hyperbolic articles.

 

[CerebralTiger]

I think given the option and opportunity, people will go to any extent to play games restricted to 30fps on a system, at 60fps instead

That emulation option is on PC, so what you're essentially saying here is that one should build a PC if they want such opportunities, which is also what I said :lol:

That said, like Chandoo and I also discussed, it's likely that a lot more single-player console games will include options for favoring graphics or performance. Devs have been conditioned to offer such options thanks to the mid-gen consoles.

what the falooda is this.... this is what developers and VPs were saying about PS4 back in the day

Don't see how Mark Rein was wrong there. The PS4's architectural differences from PCs do make it more efficient. Aspects like unified memory, or the SoC link between the CPU/GPU. And he also spoke of memory limitations of 32-bit Windows, which was more prevalent at the time. Read the article, not the headline lol.

 

[Necrokiller]

And he also spoke of memory limitations of 32-bit Windows, which was more prevalent at the time. Read the article, not the headline lol.

Battlefield 3 recommended 64-bit OS and this was in 2011. Read some history, not Mark Rein's dated thoughts :lol:

 

[CerebralTiger]

Battlefield 3 recommended 64-bit OS and this was in 2011. Read some history, not Mark Rein's dated thoughts :lol:

Yeah, one game, wow. And that doesn't mean most PC gamers at the time rushed out to upgrade to an x64 OS :lol:

 

[Necrokiller]

One game that sold millions in a month. Wow, millions of gamers had already upgraded to a 64 bit OS 2 years before Mark Rein started discussing it as a real concern :lol:

 

[CerebralTiger]

The game sold 15 million copies by mid-2012, and that includes the console versions. It's safe to say it didn't sell much more than that. So how many million copies did the PC version sell, then? Around ~5 million would be my guess, and that's definitely a fraction of the overall PC userbase. And how many of those were running the game on 32-bit Windows?

 

[Necrokiller]

If CPU architecture itself was limited to 32-bit, it would be worth discussing. But holy sh*t talk about the need to defend everything Epic now :lol:

 

[Chandoo]

holy shit talk about the need to bash everything Epic just because Tim Sweeny praised the PS5 :lol:

 

[Necrokiller]

holy shit talk about ignoring all the stupid shit Sweeney has said in the past because he is praising his official paid partner's hardware :lol:

 

[Chandoo]

ab thodi comments ache lage gey cause kyooki apni needs met nahi horahi :lol:

if this same demo was shown without the 'running on PS5' tag necro and goldie would be all over Tim's sweeny :lol:

 

[CerebralTiger]

holy shit talk about ignoring all the stupid shit Sweeney has said in the past because he is praising his official paid partner's hardware :lol:

He may have said stupid stuff in the past, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of saying something intelligent. He is where is for a reason.

I mean, this isn't the same situation as judging a game studio based on its past downward spiral track record :hah:

Why do you believe this statement from Sweeney is incorrect? Prove him wrong based on factual information.

 

[CerebralTiger]

All hail next-gen :lol:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Chandoo]

Its sad that a developer had to come out and make a statement to quell the online shitposters...

Can't show anything without people finding things to nitpick about it I guess