The Last of Us Part II [OT] Violent Delights Have Violent Ends

[manigamer]

@mani

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Bear is a different dog, the dog you have to kill as Ellie in the QTE scene is Alice.

Bear is a dog you can completely avoid during game play as Ellie.

i think

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its the one at the camp right near the end of abbys gameplay or so where she is detained for oscar

 

[Radical]

where is the link to the pg podcast

 

[manigamer]

@Nomad sure the game will many awards. sure it might be the BIG GOTY even, it had lgbtqabcdefghi agenda yes but that doesn't mean the game was any less of a technical marvel. it goes to length to show us the power of the ps4 in it's last cycle and with the upcoming ghost it's going to be another solid contender for GOTY.

 

[CerebralTiger]

I wanted to see how The Last of Us Part 2 fares in the OP's certified "Cutscene to Gameplay Ratio ®" analysis.

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Average length of completion is 22h 48m.
Almost 5 hours of cutscenes.

22.8 - 4.95 = 17.85h worth of gameplay

Cutscene to Gameplay Ratio ® becomes 3.6 to 1.

In order to conveniently shit on other games, the OP stated that atleast "5 to 1" ratio is acceptable. Part 2 falls way short of that mark.

In conclusion:

So I actually hadn't had the time to go through the video. Went through it just now and there are plenty of interactive sections, including set-pieces. Not to mention, a cutscene that is optional is also included. Hence, it isn't accurate.

The cutscene length in this video is more accurate, but still has some interactive sections and the optional cutscene. Nevertheless, it totals to 4.38h.

Now let's do the math.

23h (total main story playtime) - 4.38h (cutscene length) = 18.62h worth of gameplay.

Cutscene to Gameplay Ratio ® becomes 4.25 : 1.

If I were to edit out the interactive parts as well as the 4 minute long optional cutscene, this would get much closer to and likely even hit a ratio of 5 for gameplay.

So what's your conclusion in light of this? lol

 

[Necrokiller]

My conclusion?

This whole ratio shenanigans was your idea to begin with. Seems like your own fav game is falling short lol

And so what if its optional cut scene? Everyone seems to be including it. What guarantee can you give that the "main storyline" times on that website do not include any optional side content completion time? Absolutely none.

But my conclusion would be: keep trying. You're still nowhere near your magic number.

 

[CerebralTiger]

And so what if its optional cut scene? Everyone seems to be including it. What guarantee can you give that the "main storyline" times on that website do not include any optional side content completion time? Absolutely none.

Everyone including it doesn't change the fact that it is optional and entirely missable for anyone doing the main story, as it is encountered in the open world-ish section of the game. Moreover, I did not include optional cutscenes for other games I calculated the gameplay to cutscene ratio for.

There is no need for any guarantee. Main story means main story. I didn't wonder about such things when calculating the ratio for the other games either. All optional cutscenes were excluded. Margin of error exists, but this test is comparative.

Lastly, as I said earlier, it's not just that one cutscene, but a number of interactive set-pieces that are included in the video. Removing them will increase the ratio of gameplay. Pretty sure someone will eventually put up a proper cutscene-only video eventually. If not, I'll do it. In addition, the playtime average is not yet final and is actually increasing. You jumped the gun to run your agenda, and it backfired (as usual lol).

 

[Necrokiller]

Pretty sure someone will eventually put up a proper cutscene-only video eventually. If not, I'll do it.

Perhaps you should have done that first before quoting my post. Come back when you are able to show that the game has an acceptable cutscene to gameplay ratio i.e. 5:1 or higher. You have failed to prove that so yeah....looks like you're the one who jumped the gun here too soon

 

[Chandoo]

where is the link to the pg podcast

Probably gonna take some time for editing because 90% was off-topic and a stand up routine

Some of the people were on cams so I don't know if @NaNoW will want to upload the video version of just the audio version.

I know some people won't hear/watch it out of sheer principal because they have automatically assumed that we're just gonna praise TLoU 2 the whole duration, but that is far from the case

 

[Necrokiller]

I know some people won't hear/watch it out of sheer principal because they have automatically assumed that we're just gonna praise TLoU 2 the whole duration, but that is far from the case

Save us all time. What's your rating out of 10?

 

[Chandoo]

and rob people of the suspense/excellent PG content ? No .

 

[Major Aly]

where is the link to the pg podcast

Forced sasti comedy sunni hai?

 

[Nomad]

@Nomad sure the game will many awards. sure it might be the BIG GOTY even, it had lgbtqabcdefghi agenda yes but that doesn't mean the game was any less of a technical marvel. it goes to length to show us the power of the ps4 in it's last cycle and with the upcoming ghost it's going to be another solid contender for GOTY.

Have you seen my first post regarding this game? I did like the game, even WITH all the issues I have with it. I just think that the game getting praised as the best game ever with 10/10 scores is unrealistic as this is a significantly inferior game than the first part (as far as I'm concerned, you're free to disagree). It may well remain the best game I play this year, but that still doesn't mean that this is a 10/10 game.

As far as the game being a technical marvel and a showcase for power of PS4 is concerned, kindly show me where I've complained about graphics of the game.

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I did not like the way they killed Joel so early in the game. In my opinion he was a much better character than either Ellie or Abby and I would have preferred them telling a story other than murder of Joel. I felt like they were trying to recreate similar scenario of death of a loved one as the first game. But this one felt a bit forced and did not have the same impact. However, that is based on my own preferences and I did not hold this against the game or its developers. This is the story they decided to tell, fine

So, if I didn't get angry at them for killing my favorite character in the series, do give me some credit and take my complaints with the game with an open mind.

I do think that the whole LGBTQ agenda (as you've called it) was a bit forced and did not add anything meaningful to the story and was just a bit too much. Not enough to ruin the whole game for me, but enough to question why the hell did they have to include all of this. Only reason I can think of for including all that stuff was to appease one section of the community. A community that despite being small, is pretty vocal and media has to be careful not to get on the wrong side of them (just look at what's happening with J.K Rowling for speaking her mind as a recent example).

 

[manigamer]

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Have you seen my first post regarding this game? I did like the game, even WITH all the issues I have with it. I just think that the game getting praised as the best game ever with 10/10 scores is unrealistic as this is a significantly inferior game than the first part (as far as I'm concerned, you're free to disagree). It may well remain the best game I play this year, but that still doesn't mean that this is a 10/10 game.

As far as the game being a technical marvel and a showcase for power of PS4 is concerned, kindly show me where I've complained about graphics of the game.

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I did not like the way they killed Joel so early in the game. In my opinion he was a much better character than either Ellie or Abby and I would have preferred them telling a story other than murder of Joel. I felt like they were trying to recreate similar scenario of death of a loved one as the first game. But this one felt a bit forced and did not have the same impact. However, that is based on my own preferences and I did not hold this against the game or its developers. This is the story they decided to tell, fine

So, if I didn't get angry at them for killing my favorite character in the series, do give me some credit and take my complaints with the game with an open mind.

I do think that the whole LGBTQ agenda (as you've called it) was a bit forced and did not add anything meaningful to the story and was just a bit too much. Not enough to ruin the whole game for me, but enough to question why the hell did they have to include all of this. Only reason I can think of for including all that stuff was to appease one section of the community. A community that despite being small, is pretty vocal and media has to be careful not to get on the wrong side of them (just look at what's happening with J.K Rowling for speaking her mind as a recent example).

if you look at my post im agreeing with all of what you have said. infact what you just wrote now is exactly pretty much how i feel about the game too including the part about joel. i simply did not buy the CE for this just because it didn't had joel what i disagreed with the part is that you somewhere in the post instigated a bit that this game would be GOTY or win many awards is because it has LGBTQ agenda and people would be forced to give this that many awards because of that and i disagree because the game is higher than that and it if it wins it won't be for the lgtbq agenda but for those other aspects.

 

[Major Aly]

Finally the video I was waiting for!

Minor spoilers warning.

 

[Leon]

Actually it does, because you're copy pasting from the reddit page which has been posting fake 'spoilers' about the game since long before it came out lol such as how Abby was supposed to be trans remember .. lol

There's no harm in accepting criticism from people who aren't full of shit @Leon, which is why you're mostly being laughed off here

That being said, below is some basic deduction which anyone whose actually played the game, oR eVeN WaTcHeD tHe gAmE oN YT will know.. because we both know you haven't done either dweeb

Jackson happens in Winter, where Owen first fells Abby that Mel is preggo, which would mean maybe its only been a few days/weeks since they found out.

Seattle happens not long after. Maybe the journey from Jackson to Seattle took Abby and Dina .. a month ? they are on horseback and it shouldn't take them *that* long. The rest of Seattle happens within 3 days.

At most Mel might be 4~5 months but we have no idea. She says in the game " if I was any far along they wouldn't let me go on patrol ".

Bruh there is no one else crying in this thread about me being here except you maybe except the Faddy guy who liked the game so much that he put his game up for sale within a month, lol.

Also if your fanboy eyes think am full of shit please contact the wiki tlou guy and tell him you used 100% of your brain to analyze it seems to be only 4-5 months of pregnancy. He also gives detail of how the super pregnancy survived the crash.

 

[CerebralTiger]

Updated the thread OP to support PG 2.0's new features. Can now be viewed properly on mobile devices.

 

[Chandoo]

Excellent OP @CerebralTiger

Well deserving of the GoTY (so far ) despite a very loud vocal minority.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1283059438354673666

 

[Nomad]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1283059438354673666

Why? Why did you have to do this to the only thing that wasn't zanana about this game

 

[Chandoo]

Why? Why did you have to do this to the only thing that wasn't zanana about this game

 

[Nomad]

Oh.....
So you swing that way