@AFQ: M looking to upgrade from i3 2100 to an i5 (and will probably not overclock in the future). Which i5 would be the best for me in terms of price to performance ratio?
The Intel "Ivy Bridge" Reviews Thread
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Apple needs to put this in their Macbook ASAP. The IGP is now capable enough for casual laptop gaming.
[MENTION=6463]Ali Man[/MENTION]
You waited months???
you waited that much for technology?
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You waited months???
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Intel is releasing new lineups in June i think. According to Anand, Intel's IGP is still not up to Apple's standard.
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Get i5-3550 or 3450 whenever it comes where. You have another option as well; buy a used 2500 or 2500k.
You forgot that Ivy was supposed to be released way earlier than this (I think it was jan-feb), the first launch date. So when I waited till then, they again posponed it even further. So yea, counting up the months
(have been waiting since the beginning of december of last year).
When it comes to technology, one shouldnt wait and just get whats available.
You forgot that Ivy was supposed to be released way earlier than this (I think it was jan-feb), the first launch date. So when I waited till then, they again posponed it even further. So yea, counting up the months
I once saw a $180 2600k on newegg openbox around 6 mnths bck.... Was sold in seconds!...
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Only if 2500k comes down near 14.5k and 2600k near 19k used.... I'll show a middle finger to IVY
Intel's accelerated release cycle is the reason why IVB is a disappointment (IMO).
- Bad overclocker as compare to SNB
- Bad IGP performance as compare to AMD A8s
- Bad temps as compare to 2nd gen. 32nm CPUs
An i5-2500k and i7-2600k are still killer CPUs, obviously if found cheap.
- Bad overclocker as compare to SNB
- Bad IGP performance as compare to AMD A8s
- Bad temps as compare to 2nd gen. 32nm CPUs
An i5-2500k and i7-2600k are still killer CPUs, obviously if found cheap.
Microcenter in the USA were selling a Brand New 2600K ($200) for in store pick up. Unfortunately its not anywhere in the state where I live, though that was a good deal.
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As per AbbY whaa?:lol:
Obviously its Typo but LuLz nonetheless
And AFQ has made an error as per [MENTION=25983]AbbY[/MENTION] aswell
something about using overclocked 2600K's results as Stock
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I've said this earlier and I'm saying this again.
Ivy Bridge is NOT a new microarchitecture like Sandy Bridge, Nehalem/Lynnfield and the Core 2 series. It's, as they describe it, the 'tick' to the 'tock'. It's a die shrink to the same architecture of the Sandy Bridge. It was not supposed to perform miles ahead of the Sandy Bridge. The Haswell series is intended to do that!
The Ivy Bridge was a mere shrunken die to the Sandy bridge, with a change of transistors, bringing in 3d tri gate transistors, albeit staying more or less the same.
The Ivy Bridge processors use considerably a lower amount of power, thus they are very well suited for notebooks and portable computing.
"Overall Ivy may be better but not by much"
Well, it's better by what was expected of it. It isn't supposed to be a 50% gain over its predecessor anyway. It's doing what it was meant to do. It is not fail at all, like [MENTION=13435]zainu[/MENTION] mentioned up there. It was brought in to primarily lower up the usage of power needed by the processor, it's doing that effectively. Just because YOU feel it's fail doesn't mean it's fail for the rest of the world. It's not doing what YOU expected it to do. But it's very much doing what was expected of it!
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Comparing temps on a 32nm processor to a processor on 22nm with more or less the same cooler is bullshit. People need to stop doing that and look at the advantages it poses.
People moving on from 65nm->45nm faced lower temperatures because of a simple phenomena. It's basic thermal physics. Since the die was reduced by 20nm in that tick, the heat produced : heat dissipated ratio favored the cooler side, because there was much less heat produced, and slightly more time to dissipate it, resulting in an aggregate cooler chip over the long run.
In the case of Sandy Bridge -> Ivy Bridge, the die shrunk by 10nm. Since the die was already very small, at a mere 32nm, the heat dissipation was already way to slow. It's just that 32nm produced just the right amount of heat produced : heat dissipated ratio.
With Intel bringing it down to 22nm, the die is producing a slightly lower amount of heat, though taking much longer to dissipate. Notice how it's the opposite of the 65->45nm switch? I won't be surprised if Skylake/Skymont or whatever the 12/14nm ones sare called produce more heat. Actually, in theory, they'll run way too hot when overclocked. Intel must devise another way, or get rid of integrated graphics on that series to give it some room to run cooler.
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DIS FUCKING AGREE!
I waiting MONTHS for unlocked Sandy and P67 chipset to be readily available in Pakistan, before getting a locked processor and an H67 chipset. A week later, the unlocked processors were brought in after 8 days. :'(
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Mera lay lena (2500) I'll get an unlocked used processor from someone or on ebay or sth this summer
And... what exactly do you aim to do with 8 threads? People with 2500k's are the best of in terms of relative performance per amount spent at the moment and I see no point of them upgrading.
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Ohhh... So whats the difference between engineering sample and proper chip?
Great AFQ received a chip
Not only that
The ES chips are indeed sent for free to prospective reviewers and testers. (Though they sent an Engineering Sample to one of our Doctors. Oh the irony.
)The ES chips come without manuals, without heatsink+fan, have all the bugs that need to be ironed out and removed in the OEM chip. Furthermore, the ES chips have fully unlocked multipliers, like in the K processors, or atleast that's how it was with the Q series. All in all, the final OEM chip may have a feature or two that the ES one doesn't, but it's more or less the same. That said, ES chips are illegal to sell, and anyone selling that can be taken to court by Intel.
and Intel tells you to drill holes in ES chips after review. (this doesnt apply here in Pakistan)
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