Studying Abroad: Guidelines,Fees and Help thread

[Khawaja]

What do you mean?
Is it beneficial for those who are immediately moving abroad after O-levels?

That is what I am asking.

^^isnt that the consultation thingy??
Btw Khawaja why wont you do your A levels here man... It'll be easier for you and then go to a good uni...there is no point in going after you O levels
But hey I dont have any right to tell you what to do or what not...but just consider my advice...Moving after your O levels= Mistake, After High school Diploma= Foundation course in Uk and freshman year in US (so Okish) ....After A'levels= many options open to you (The world is yours )

Why would you want waste 2 Years if You Can do the same thing(Foundation)+Bachelors in 4 years? I am going to consult some professional on this. After O'levels what options do I have? I don't want to waste 2 years, However I am ready to sacrifice 1. What Options do I have other than A'levels?

I just want to go abroad because IT IS BORING here in FAISALABAD + I love to explore. I am a young traveller, been to Malaysia and Turkey ALONE already. I want to go abroad ASAP and One of reasons I am going to study in Europe is that I can visit any Country I want anytime I want(Eurorail). European countries have that History that intrigues me : :/

Also for Germany, I DON'T GET THE UNI Websites. Can someone PLEASE list down some good Unis and their Fees? Are there any unis in Germany that teach in English. I was able to understand the living costs though.

 

[Alcadeias]

^^How about Computer Games Tech...Its related to a field we all love

Ya we all love playing game but when it comes to making one .. you know what I mean. Actually this was my first preference but knowing that I will be coming back to Pakistan after studying I don't think doing this (computer games tech) will help here.

 

[BumperJumper]

Game development is extremely difficult. Only the dedicated and hard working can strive in this field. Others can do OK but not good enough.

 

[Alcadeias]

Anyone Heard Of Navitas? Any Reviews? It's a straight fly from O'Levels

Never heard of em but ya I know that after completing O levels you can do one year foundation and then straight to 1st year of degree. This in in Malaysia don't know about Europe though .

 

[Ashhad]

That is what I am asking.


Why would you want waste 2 Years if You Can do the same thing(Foundation)+Bachelors in 4 years? I am going to consult some professional on this. After O'levels what options do I have? I don't want to waste 2 years, However I am ready to sacrifice 1. What Options do I have other than A'levels?

I just want to go abroad because IT IS BORING here in FAISALABAD + I love to explore. I am a young traveller, been to Malaysia and Turkey ALONE already. I want to go abroad ASAP and One of reasons I am going to study in Europe is that I can visit any Country I want anytime I want(Eurorail). European countries have that History that intrigues me : :/

Also for Germany, I DON'T GET THE UNI Websites. Can someone PLEASE list down some good Unis and their Fees? Are there any unis in Germany that teach in English. I was able to understand the living costs though.

Go to my first post and download that studying in germany pdf....it has everything you need
Anyways my whole point being "Not to do Foundation course" was just so that you could save your parents loads of money ...I mean almost 25-30 lakhs ....
but hey you want to go to germany and I thought you wanted to go to U.K
As far as U.K,US or Australia are concerned they are extremely expensive
But honestly I don't get the point why don't you want to do your A levels ...I mean its just 2 more years...Ive been to numerous countries alone...even when I was 16 I went to many foreign countries alone(been all around Europe with my family too ) but never felt the urge to leave my country cuz I was bored at Lahore... you should really think about it before you make such a drastic decision...but thats just my thinking...not trying to impose anything upon you

 

[Khawaja]

^UK is my first choice but going to Germany can save you a lot of bucks that you can spend on extra leisure activities.

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Go to my first post and download that studying in germany pdf....it has everything you need
Anyways my whole point being "Not to do Foundation course" was just so that you could save your parents loads of money ...I mean almost 25-30 lakhs ....
but hey you want to go to germany and I thought you wanted to go to U.K

I don't get it :/

 

[Ashhad]

^UK is my first choice but going to Germany can save you a lot of bucks that you can spend on extra leisure activities.

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I don't get it :/

Sir what didnt you get...the germany pdf part or the "not to do foundation and burning through money " part

Germany part:
open this link and download the pdf..its pretty long so read it..it has everything you need about germany ...the fees,Good uni's etc
http://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CGYQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.daad.ru%2FPublikationen%2Fstudying_in_germany.pdf&ei=FkenT67vEIjOsga86ZDRBA&usg=AFQjCNEzl2IEi8rS_CrK5W815q4LzyciNw&sig2=toZsOyKXqG-3cni0-cGi-w

Foundation course part:
I meant to say that since you plan on going to germany then it is ok but if UK then you need pretty deep pockets

 

[Khawaja]

Sir what didnt you get...the germany pdf part or the "not to do foundation and burning through money " part

Germany part:
open this link and download the pdf..its pretty long so read it..it has everything you need about germany ...the fees,Good uni's etc
http://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&r...CrK5W815q4LzyciNw&sig2=toZsOyKXqG-3cni0-cGi-w

Foundation course part:
I meant to say that since you plan on going to germany then it is ok but if UK then you need pretty deep pockets

I am scared of large documents with puny little text . Foundation costs 6000-7000 pounds I guess

Can you please link me to some good colleges/uni's(Any good country other than US/Canada) that provide Foundation after GCSE(O'level)?

 

[XxRebellionxX]

Ok so I don't get what you guys are babbling about so tell me what is this "Foundation Year" and what's the benefit for it, I mean is it worth it over A-Levels or not?

 

[Khawaja]

^Saves one year

[MENTION=21127]Ashhad[/MENTION] I am kinda uneasy about German universities, I mean what is their level of education Compared to Canadian/British/Malaysian/Aussie Universities? They don't have English websites, they don't cover all subjects (Business+Engineering). I NEED BOTH UNDER ONE ROOF Because I will be going with a friend :/. What is your opinion?

 

[Ashhad]

I am scared of large documents with puny little text . Foundation costs 6000-7000 pounds I guess

Can you please link me to some good colleges/uni's(Any good country other than US/Canada) that provide Foundation after GCSE(O'level)?

Foundation costs almost the same as anyone of the undergrad years
So that means almost 10-15k pounds and add living costs to that and WALA you get almost 20-22k pounds which is almost 30-33 lakh Rs
Read the studying in Germany thing man ...it will help you out...Abhi itna parhnay ko dil nahi kar raha to baad main jab 700 pages ki books lagain gi to kya hoga

One thing is England is really expensive so that is outta the question, why dont you try Malaysia or anywhere in Europe
Well I only know of universities in England which offer foundation courses but that should be out of the question by now because it is really and I mean really expensive

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^Saves one year

@Ashhad I am kinda uneasy about German universities, I mean what is their level of education Compared to Canadian/British/Malaysian/Aussie Universities? They don't have English websites, they don't cover all subjects (Business+Engineering). I NEED BOTH UNDER ONE ROOF Because I will be going with a friend :/. What is your opinion?

Hmm well I think you should read that document because it is specially for International students and It discusses everything ...The fees,Universities,subject etc
Look England is too damn expensive...You are thinking of 7-8k pounds but buddy that is not the case anymore ..let me elaborate by using CITY's Business school called CASS in London:
1: You cannot work there
2: The fee is pretty much the same as any Undergrad year.
3: So I see 20-22k pounds easily every year.

Now lets come to the Germany part:
Thier level of Education cannot be undermined in any way...Engineering from Germany is considered as one of the best

 

[Alcadeias]

From what I have read in the pdf, I guess it is compulsory to speak/understand German cause only few of there courses are in English. You are allowed to do part time job 90 full or 180 half days per year. You need to have 700 euros/month for cost of living.

For detailed info read the pdf

 

[Ali250]

If you're really after Germany, look up Jacobs University Bremen. It's the only uni that I know that imparts education at undergrad level in English and it's pretty good too. They even give scholarships (I got a 15k Euro scholarship/grant). Though you can't get into it immediately after O levels. Most of the half-decent universities require a proper high school degree like A levels, American High School Diploma/SAT, IB or equivalent qualifications. People who skip A levels normally get go to a community college in USA (they'll accept you even after O levels), study there for one year, and then get themselves transferred to a university.

Honestly speaking though, I think those people are impatient brats. Even if you can easily afford the additional expense of spending a couple of years abroad, it's still not justified. Your parents work their ass of to earn money, and wasting a ton of it just so you can get a year ahead and have some excitement in life doesn't make any sense no matter which way you look at it, especially because it yields zero net benefit in the end.

IMO if you're really hell-bent on saving a year and going abroad, try and complete A levels in a single year. It won't be easy, but if only take 3 core subjects (which is all most unis require), then it should be possible if you work hard from day 1.

 

[Hassan Aftab]

Hello everyone

I have had this question on my mind for the past few days and I thought I'd let it out before some of the young aspiring chartered accounting students, including ones associated with ACCA of course.
Well, I have started my ACCA in Islamabad, not so recently though. I've set myself the target of transferring the exams to some place abroad next year.

I am assuming that I would be done with 6 exam papers in Pakistan by then.
Now, England is what I had initially thought, and to be frank I still think so.
London seems to be the hub of all sorts of worldly activity, education being my focus here though.

However, there are other issues that sort of bog me down when I think of moving abroad eg. cost of living being the one major factor of de-motivation along with the worsening economic conditions and bitter visa policies posed by England.
Considering the fact that London is one of the most expensive cities alive, I am thinking I should consider moving to some other city in England.

Questions remain though, like will they offer the same standard of ACCA studies, will techniques differ, will I have equally good chances of getting a job, will the cost of living be significantly low (if yes, how much).

You see, I am alien to questions like those and that kind of puts me in a spot of bother just thinking about it now.
Kaplan Financial is where I aim to be, but then again it also has its branches in Ireland (Dublin) and Canada (Toronto).

Malaysia, I've heard, also offers competitive ACCA studies now. But are they equally efficient in terms of tuition provision and post-study job placements as the standards that institutes in England hold/held....baffles me.
Malaysia would cost me a whole lot less, that's for sure. (How less,that would also be an important one)

So you see, I am in search of an elaborate response on this so that I can finally reach a well calculated decision.
Visa policies, costs on education and accommodation and stuff relevant to it could also be a good matter of this discussion.

Would appreciate help from you guys.
Please enlighten me/and any others that may be in a somewhat similar situation.

 

[Khawaja]

^Don't know much about ACCA. But one thing is for sure, education doesn't depend on CITY, it's the UNI it self .

This might be of some help :
Education Consultants Pakistan|Study Consultants|Study in Scotland|Study in USA|Education Agent

 

[Hassan Aftab]

^Don't know much about ACCA. But one thing is for sure, education doesn't depend on CITY, it's the UNI it self .

This might be of some help :
Education Consultants Pakistan|Study Consultants|Study in Scotland|Study in USA|Education Agent

Oh, thanks so so much for that link, Khawaja.
Any more volunteers who can help me with my queries please?

 

[Khawaja]

[MENTION=21127]Ashhad[/MENTION] We can work in UK during studies right? Part time of course

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[MENTION=21127]Ashhad[/MENTION] We can work in UK during studies right? Part time of course

 

[Hassan Aftab]

@Ashhad We can work in UK during studies right? Part time of course

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@Ashhad We can work in UK during studies right? Part time of course

That's also one of my questions, cz I've heard that as per the revised policies immigrants are either NOT allowed to work at all while they study or the no. of work hours have been exhausted.

 

[Ashhad]

^^Both sirs
Their policy has been changed.
One does not get a work permit after he has completed his graduation there which means he must return to his home country

 

[Blastwave]

^^Both sirs
One cannot work while studying in U.K
Their policy has been changed.
One does not get a work permit after he has completed his graduation there which means he must return to his home country

[MENTION=229]Khawaja[/MENTION]

Friends of mine were doing their masters degrees while working in UK.

They even got jobs after their graduation and started working for offices in UK.

When the law was changed, they were given a months salary and told to start packing up.


ASHHAD........ the policy changed when and where? show us links please?