[OT] English Premier League: Man City 17/18 Champions!

[helraizer]

The injury list of untied is again causing issues...having no pogba or even fella is really hurting the whole style ..but I expect united to bounce back.

that being said, this is a man city's league to lose

so injuries are to be blamed and not coward manager who showed no confidence in his in form players against a weak liverpool player and asked them to park the bus?

i said before start of the season that Jose is not the right manager for team like Man Utd! his tactics are out dated jose fans call him pragmatic but i call him coward for not attacking and asking his attacking player to sit back and take pressure.

watch huddles hilites and ull see that utd players were tracking back and not putting pressure when they had ball this is jose for you too scared to lose and happy with a 0-0 draw!

we played cowardly against liverpool after scoring gizzilion goals and utd were lucky against benfica!

 

[helraizer]

Seriously what poch has done at spurs reminds me of what fergie did with united. Brought back winning mentality with a blend of youth and experience.


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Poch and not that pragmatic clown should have been utd manager!

Poch knows how to handle young players and how to nourish them! Jose dint like KDB the best player in the league because he dint track back,Martial a talented player who did well under LVg is looking ordinary under jose because he is not given the freedom to play his natural game!

i hope utd halt jose contract negotiating till end of season.

 

[Ali Hasnain1]

Poch and not that pragmatic clown should have been utd manager!

Poch knows how to handle young players and how to nourish them! Jose dint like KDB the best player in the league because he dint track back,Martial a talented player who did well under LVg is looking ordinary under jose because he is not given the freedom to play his natural game!

i hope utd halt jose contract negotiating till end of season.

KDB was at chelsea. He had the potential to be a great player. But he was at chelsea. Chelsea have the worst record of youth being integrated in first team. Conte, ancelotti, Mourinho, all the managers at chelsea are brought on to win no matter the means. Lukaku was another victim to this. Both KDB and lukaku have said afterwards that they were sold be chelsea not by mourinho.

Mou has been brought here to win. Simple as that. Just look at last season. What did poch and klopp win? Nothing. And let me tell me it was that's because they aren't expected to. Poch winning the league isn't an expectation at spurs. Yes they put good pressure other team but they themselves aren't expected to win.


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[helraizer]

KDB was at chelsea. He had the potential to be a great player. But he was at chelsea. Chelsea have the worst record of youth being integrated in first team. Conte, ancelotti, Mourinho, all the managers at chelsea are brought on to win no matter the means. Lukaku was another victim to this. Both KDB and lukaku have said afterwards that they were sold be chelsea not by mourinho.

Mou has been brought here to win. Simple as that. Just look at last season. What did poch and klopp win? Nothing. And let me tell me it was that's because they aren't expected to. Poch winning the league isn't an expectation at spurs. Yes they put good pressure other team but they themselves aren't expected to win.


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and under jose the coward utd are not winning anything!

 

[Ali Hasnain1]

and under jose the coward utd are not winning anything!

Europa league, league cup, community shield(if you count it). More trophies than liverpool, spurs, arsenal combined last season.


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[hotgamerft]

Seriously what poch has done at spurs reminds me of what fergie did with united. Brought back winning mentality with a blend of youth and experience.


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They are improving every season. They've lost kyle walker to man city and were without demblele, wanyama (two of their best midfielders) but still managed to steamroll liverpool. The way pochettino has managed his squad deserves praise. He hasn't bought much but instead used the youth very effectively

 

[hotgamerft]

KDB was at chelsea. He had the potential to be a great player. But he was at chelsea. Chelsea have the worst record of youth being integrated in first team. Conte, ancelotti, Mourinho, all the managers at chelsea are brought on to win no matter the means. Lukaku was another victim to this. Both KDB and lukaku have said afterwards that they were sold be chelsea not by mourinho.

Let me put this into context, both KDB and Lukaku were sold when mourinho was the manager. Both of them had loan spells with various clubs, after coming back neither of them were first choices. In case of lukaku, once diego costa was bought he knew he wouldn't get in the starting 11 ahead of him. He asked the club to sell him to a club where he would get first team football and his wish was granted, otherwise he would be sitting on the bench. Same for KDB, mata, oscar and others were ahead of him in the pecking order.

One example at chelsea was mata as well, he was chelsea's player of the year for two straight seasons but was not getting game time under mourinho.

I am not hating on your manager since he has done great things for chelsea.

 

[hotgamerft]

Ronald koeman sacked by everton

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[helraizer]

Europa league, league cup, community shield(if you count it). More trophies than liverpool, spurs, arsenal combined last season.


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Mickey mouse treble! *Thumbsup good for you jose fans!

 

[XxRebellionxX]

Holy fuck Liverpool got absolutely shat on by Spurs. I mean Lovren really did cost us that game, but the game was marred with defensive mistakes. I think its about time to put Joe Gomez at CB and TAA at RB until Clyne comes back. I really hope this game was a wake up call for us because we can't afford to loose or draw games like these.

One thing to note is LFC fans really need to stop shitting on Lovren too much, he's had bad days and he's currently dealing with some bad situations in his life. I couldn't believe when people were giving him death threats. Ranting is fine but some people really take it too far. They talk so much about YNWA and never really follow it

 

[NaNoW]

Ronald koeman sacked by everton

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Why would you spent all the money without replacing Lukaku !! Why buy every player to play number 10..Why would you buy Rooney as he had started to decline, Koeman shot himself in the foot..

 

[NaNoW]

so injuries are to be blamed and not coward manager who showed no confidence in his in form players against a weak liverpool player and asked them to park the bus?

i said before start of the season that Jose is not the right manager for team like Man Utd! his tactics are out dated jose fans call him pragmatic but i call him coward for not attacking and asking his attacking player to sit back and take pressure.

watch huddles hilites and ull see that utd players were tracking back and not putting pressure when they had ball this is jose for you too scared to lose and happy with a 0-0 draw!

we played cowardly against liverpool after scoring gizzilion goals and utd were lucky against benfica!

I am not gonna respond to you , I gave you numbers last time and you ignored them.. there is not point in arguing with you man.

I dont know if you remember or saw much of how united played under Fergie, specially during the last part of his career, but united were never about " Beautiful attacking football"..united were about winning..We won ugly, we won by defending and sometimes we won with attack..but it wasn't same every game - the way barca, real or even PSG /Man city now does it, they have Superstars all over the field, united doesn't. We dont have those players, so we will do what we have to do to win.

Literally ONE GAME...ONE Freaking game and you come out of your corner..Where were you when united were beating every other team 4-0 ? Where were you ?

and regarding champions league > Manchester United off to best Champions League start since Sir Alex Ferguson era | Goal.com

MANCHESTER UNITED OFF TO BEST CHAMPIONS LEAGUE START SINCE FERGUSON ERA

Man Utd equal best-ever Premier League start after Liverpool draw | Goal.com

MAN UTD EQUAL BEST-EVER PREMIER LEAGUE START AFTER LIVERPOOL DRAW

The 20-point total equals the club's record Premier League haul after that number of games - a tally which was also reached in the 2011/12 and 1999/00 campaigns.
United will be hoping this season ends in a similar fashion to the latter as they won the title in the 99/00 season.

they did manage to equal the club's best-ever Premier League start after eight games.
Jose Mourinho's side earned a 0-0 draw at Liverpool to move the Red Devils onto 20 points after eight Premier League matches this season.

These are FACTS..not opinions!! F A C T S but I guarantee that these will fly over your head, just like the last time I presented facts for you...

 

[hotgamerft]

Why would you spent all the money without replacing Lukaku !! Why buy every player to play number 10..Why would you buy Rooney as he had started to decline, Koeman shot himself in the foot..

Agreed, he bought 3 no 10's and no proper striker to replace lukaku. 140 million is a lot of money and they're lurking in the relegation zone.

Southampton fans were really happy seeing his misery xD

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[mbk99]

S bilic will soon follow the footsteps of R Koeman i believe. He has two games to save his job.

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[helraizer]

I am not gonna respond to you , I gave you numbers last time and you ignored them.. there is not point in arguing with you man.

I dont know if you remember or saw much of how united played under Fergie, specially during the last part of his career, but united were never about " Beautiful attacking football"..united were about winning..We won ugly, we won by defending and sometimes we won with attack..but it wasn't same every game - the way barca, real or even PSG /Man city now does it, they have Superstars all over the field, united doesn't. We dont have those players, so we will do what we have to do to win.

Literally ONE GAME...ONE Freaking game and you come out of your corner..Where were you when united were beating every other team 4-0 ? Where were you ?

and regarding champions league > Manchester United off to best Champions League start since Sir Alex Ferguson era | Goal.com




Man Utd equal best-ever Premier League start after Liverpool draw | Goal.com





These are FACTS..not opinions!! F A C T S but I guarantee that these will fly over your head, just like the last time I presented facts for you...

lols jose fans are amazing!!! i am sure you also a fan of bhutto a blind follower!

Fergie was never a coward he never sucked confidence out of his player by making them defend against weaker teams and fergie was never happy with a 0-0 draw!!!

as for not having quality player jose was given insane money and he bought his type of players more donkeys than footballers! pep spent 10 mil (net spending) more than jose and look at the way his team is playing!

as for one match i am sure you dint see how spurs destroyed a weak liverpool team how they attacked them and exploited their pathetic leaky defence...while jose just sat back dint even try to counter he was happy with 0-0 draw thats not pragmatism thats cowardly football!

against newly promoted huddlesfield i dont know how you watch football but i am sure you just wait for cameras to show face of coward jose and not watch the game of football....against huddle utd players were tracking back when they had possesion and not put pressure on their player...

i have never been a fan of jose his tactic are cowardly boring and outdated! i am a huge utd fan been a fan for a long time but i just hope spurs destroy utd and this coward (pragmatic for fan boys) f offs from utd this season!

 

[helraizer]

its like last season all over again even last season i told jose fan boys wait for 4-5 matches and let him lose few and then he will publicly blame players for his cowardly tactics!

 

[NaNoW]

lols jose fans are amazing!!! i am sure you also a fan of bhutto a blind follower!

Fergie was never a coward he never sucked confidence out of his player by making them defend against weaker teams and fergie was never happy with a 0-0 draw!!!

as for not having quality player jose was given insane money and he bought his type of players more donkeys than footballers! pep spent 10 mil (net spending) more than jose and look at the way his team is playing!

as for one match i am sure you dint see how spurs destroyed a weak liverpool team how they attacked them and exploited their pathetic leaky defence...while jose just sat back dint even try to counter he was happy with 0-0 draw thats not pragmatism thats cowardly football!

against newly promoted huddlesfield i dont know how you watch football but i am sure you just wait for cameras to show face of coward jose and not watch the game of football....against huddle utd players were tracking back when they had possesion and not put pressure on their player...

i have never been a fan of jose his tactic are cowardly boring and outdated! i am a huge utd fan been a fan for a long time but i just hope spurs destroy utd and this coward (pragmatic for fan boys) f offs from utd this season!

ahahahaahha..the salt is real

I, again, just like last time, provided you with numbers and stats..and just like last time you started to attack me personally for some reason..hmmm.

You called me 10 times a blind Jose fan, but didnt address the numbers and stats I provided, that actually shows who the real "Blind" fan is.

Do you know what is common between Fergie and Jose ( except for the fact that they both have won alot) ?

It is that both their teams are/were defensively solid. Remember the Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra record run of longest time goal not conceded ?


Okey, one more for you -

Number of goals in a season when united won the PL title

2007 - 8 : 38 games - 80 goals scored / 24 Conceded
2008–09 : 38 Games -6

8 ​

goals scored

24 Conceded​

2010-11: 38 Games - 78 goals scored / 37 conceded

This comes out to an average of


75.33 goals per season / 38 goals : 1.98 goals per match avg in seasons WE WON the trophy



Current - Under Jose united

2017 -18 : 9 games player - 22 scored / 4 conceded

2.44 goals per goals per match

Fergie was never a coward he never sucked confidence out of his player by making them defend against weaker teams!

In 2010 season united won with a goal difference of 4 /MORE THAN 4 GOALS - just 3 times in the WHOLE season

This Season Manchester united have won with a GD 4 /MORE THAN 4 GOALS - 4 OUT OF 9 GAMES



As I told you before, I will say it now again..both Jose and Fergie are excellent tacticians and played fully well adjusting to their opponents, only you
do not let your preconceived beliefs go away for some reason

 

[helraizer]

ahahahaahha..the salt is real

I, again, just like last time, provided you with numbers and stats..and just like last time you started to attack me personally for some reason..hmmm.

You called me 10 times a blind Jose fan, but didnt address the numbers and stats I provided, that actually shows who the real "Blind" fan is.

Do you know what is common between Fergie and Jose ( except for the fact that they both have won alot) ?

It is that both their teams are/were defensively solid. Remember the Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra record run of longest time goal not conceded ?


Okey, one more for you -

Number of goals in a season when united won the PL title

2007 - 8 : 38 games - 80 goals scored / 24 Conceded
2008–09 : 38 Games -6

8 ​

goals scored

24 Conceded​

2010-11: 38 Games - 78 goals scored / 37 conceded

This comes out to an average of


75.33 goals per season / 38 goals : 1.98 goals per match avg in seasons WE WON the trophy



Current - Under Jose united

2017 -18 : 9 games player - 22 scored / 4 conceded

2.44 goals per goals per match




In 2010 season united won with a goal difference of 4 /MORE THAN 4 GOALS - just 3 times in the WHOLE season

This Season Manchester united have won with a GD 4 /MORE THAN 4 GOALS - 4 OUT OF 9 GAMES



As I told you before, I will say it now again..both Jose and Fergie are excellent tacticians and played fully well adjusting to their opponents, only you
do not let your preconceived beliefs go away for some reason

Fergie was never a great tactician and please dont even compare that coward to fergie!

Fergie was an amazing man manager someone who could win games with john freaking oshea...he hired carlos q just for his tactical mind!

 

[Ali Hasnain1]

Fergie was never a great tactician and please dont even compare that coward to fergie!

Fergie was an amazing man manager someone who could win games with john freaking oshea...he hired carlos q just for his tactical mind!

Thats totally a myth. If you think man management alone can win you 13 premier league titles, 2 champions league trophies then you're not deluded just plain stupid.


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[helraizer]

Thats totally a myth. If you think man management alone can win you 13 premier league titles, 2 champions league trophies then you're not deluded just plain stupid.


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Lols we talking about football managers obvioisly they know their tactics but fergies main trait was man management and not tactics!!

And please tell me one thing man city vs chelsea pep nullified chelseas midfield by playing with high tempo and pressure vs your lord genius's run of the mill park the bus and hoff ball tactics against every big team? Jose feels more like rich man tony pulis