Killzone 2 showed behind closed doors at GDC, More at E3.

[radd]

but didnt bungie themselves say they messed up on halo 2, some perfection eh ?

lol , didnt you read what they said afterwards ? seesh. use your brain , halo 2 is amazing , its most played game on 360 yet ! do a google or something. that quote was taken out of context.

anyways , the whole 1up team (including shane and luke "press X to exit press conference) thought it was meh. heck it even had ARTIFACTS ! they thought sony was showing crappy footage to get their expectations down and then show a better version. they all decided not to talk about it till e3 , and i agree. theres something fishy here.

 

[Chandoo]

plus halo 1 and 2 are one of the highest rated games ever )

TWO of the

the halo purists didn't like halo 2 that much they just wanted to play as MC, i for one found playing arbiter awesome ( he is more of an assassin then a super omega killer )

okey so the halo purists didnt like it now..

 

[devilscallmedad]

TWO of the

..... and? overrated? do you truly believe hundreds of different reviewers gave an average hyped-expected to be bad original IP ( poor e3 showing ) nearly perfect scores everywhere...if you do.... sheesh

okey so the halo purists didnt like it now..

I just used the term you came up with "halo purists" means people who liked the original halo and wanted it to stay the same way were you trying to say something else

 

[Chandoo]

lol , didnt you read what they said afterwards ? seesh. use your brain , halo 2 is amazing , its most played game on 360 yet ! do a google or something. that quote was taken out of context.

well this is from gamespot..

As it turns out, many staffers at Halo 2 developer Bungie agree with the criticisms leveled at the game. Writer and Bungie.net weekly update author Frank O'Connor admitted that Halo 2's finale was lackluster. "We drove off [a cliff] Thelma & Louise style," he told the British game magazine Edge. "The trick is to avoid...writing by committee."

Bungie engineer Chris Butcher was blunter in his assessment. "We had about four to five weeks to polish Halo at the end...[but] we had none of that for Halo 2," he told the magazine. "We miscalculated, we screwed up, we came down to the wire and we just lost all of that. So Halo 2 is far less than it could and should be in many ways because of that. It kills me to think of it."

seems a lot like bungie admitting they messed up on halo 2 to me, as for the most played on 360, didnt some one from the halo team also say something like " i can't stand playing halo 2 online anymore" or something along those lines.

I'll leave the smart-brain thinking to you.

..... and? overrated? do you truly believe hundreds of different reviewers gave an average hyped-expected to be bad original IP ( poor e3 showing ) nearly perfect scores everywhere...if you do.... sheesh

holy crap man take a freaking chill pill !!.. you took something i said to a completely different plane. Chill !. i was merely pointing out your gramatical mistake in that post lol...

sheesh devil.

I just used the term you came up with "halo purists" means people who liked the original halo and wanted it to stay the same way were you trying to say something else

im just saying there seem to be a whole bunch of people who didnt like halo 2, just saying that just because a few liked i doesnt mean it was a 'perfect game'

 

[Chandoo]

lol , didnt you read what they said afterwards ? seesh. use your brain , halo 2 is amazing , its most played game on 360 yet ! do a google or something. that quote was taken out of context.

well this is from gamespot..

As it turns out, many staffers at Halo 2 developer Bungie agree with the criticisms leveled at the game. Writer and Bungie.net weekly update author Frank O'Connor admitted that Halo 2's finale was lackluster. "We drove off [a cliff] Thelma & Louise style," he told the British game magazine Edge. "The trick is to avoid...writing by committee."

Bungie engineer Chris Butcher was blunter in his assessment. "We had about four to five weeks to polish Halo at the end...[but] we had none of that for Halo 2," he told the magazine. "We miscalculated, we screwed up, we came down to the wire and we just lost all of that. So Halo 2 is far less than it could and should be in many ways because of that. It kills me to think of it."

seems a lot like bungie admitting they messed up on halo 2 to me, as for the most played on 360, didnt some one from the halo team also say something like " i can't stand playing halo 2 online anymore" or something along those lines.

I'll leave the smart-brain thinking to you.

..... and? overrated? do you truly believe hundreds of different reviewers gave an average hyped-expected to be bad original IP ( poor e3 showing ) nearly perfect scores everywhere...if you do.... sheesh

holy crap man take a freaking chill pill !!.. you took something i said to a completely different plane. Chill !. i was merely pointing out your gramatical mistake in that post lol...

sheesh devil.

I just used the term you came up with "halo purists" means people who liked the original halo and wanted it to stay the same way were you trying to say something else

im just saying there seem to be a whole bunch of people who didnt like halo 2, just saying that just because a few liked i doesnt mean it was a 'perfect game'

 

[devilscallmedad]

seems a lot like bungie admitting they messed up on halo 2 to me, as for the most played on 360, didnt some one from the halo team also say something like " i can't stand playing halo 2 online anymore" or something along those lines.

I'll leave the smart-brain thinking to you.

damn, he said after playing halo 3 i can't stand 2 and the quote you posted is saying the same thing " we messed up halo 2's ending " stop trying to create something out of nothing.

im just saying there seem to be a whole bunch of people who didnt like halo 2, just saying that just because a few liked i doesnt mean it was a 'perfect game'

tell me a single game which doesn't have haters, seeing as halo 3 is the most anticipated game of like all time i'd say the previous versions were pretty awesome.

 

[Chandoo]

damn, he said after playing halo 3 i can't stand 2 and the quote you posted is saying the same thing " we messed up halo 2's ending " stop trying to create something out of nothing.

did you read the second guy's comment ? i mean come on, why dont you two just ADMIT what BUNGIE themselves say and leave it to rest.

"We had about four to five weeks to polish Halo at the end...[but] we had none of that for Halo 2," he told the magazine. "We miscalculated, we screwed up, we came down to the wire and we just lost all of that. So Halo 2 is far less than it could and should be in many ways because of that. It kills me to think of it.

halo 3 is the most anticipated game of like all time i'd say the previous versions were pretty awesome.

previous versions of what ? that made little sense, and im not saying how every game has haters, im saying how halo 2 has haters as well, its not a perfect game.

 

[radd]

seesh , why are stuck on one article , you down that they clarified that later. they were comparing it to halo 3 and its features and goiing , duh we messed up. this should have been in halo 2 etc etc

hope this gets thru to that thick head of yours. bungie can say anything , its their baby.

 

[devilscallmedad]

errr..so a perfect game is one which has no haters? i guess then there's nothing perfect ever

So Halo 2 is far less than it could and should be in many ways because of that.

good developers are never satisfied with their games and thats all he's saying, if more time halo 2 could have been even better which game wouldn't?

 

[Chandoo]

. they were comparing it to halo 3 and its features and goiing , duh we messed up

the online part i can understand the comparison, but you can just read the following and judge. They're comparing the post-production polish time with halo 1, not 3 obviously.

i dont think its my thick headthat needs things going through it.

 

[devilscallmedad]

errr...i think you are smart enough to know that the last month polish is mostly to fix minor bugs/improve some minor stuff the game is already done by then what they are talking about is the graphical glitches in the cutscenes.

 

[Chandoo]

from what i've heard the only graphical glitches halo 2 has is minor texture popin during the real time cutscenes, hardly something enough to qualify a person saying " we screwed up, we lost it" and the like.

I mean, just admit bungie said that they messed halo 2 up themselves, how hard is that.

 

[devilscallmedad]

why should i, i don't they messed even the 1up yours guys gave them crap for saying that * PR to get people hyped up for 3 * and they clarified that they were referring to that they wanted to add a few more things which are eventually making their way to 3

from what i've heard the only graphical glitches halo 2 has is minor texture popin during the real time cutscenes, hardly something enough to qualify a person saying " we screwed up, we lost it" and the like.

Perfectionist, the blizzard effect blizzard will can anything unless its god like they have canned a lot some almost complete and pretty good.

 

[Chandoo]

why should i,

BECAUSE THEY FREAKING SAID IT THEMSELVES !!..

egh, this is hopeless.. even a companies own statement isnt acceptable just because your a fan of halo. Sigh.

i give up.

 

[radd]

BECAUSE YOU CANT FUCKING READ !!!!

READ WHAT I POSTED EARLIER YOUR ANSWER IS IN THERE

AFTER DOING 70% HALO3 THEY LOOK BACK AND SAY THEY MESSED UP 2 YEARS LATER.


seesh how hard is that head of yours ?

 

[devilscallmedad]

BECAUSE THEY FREAKING SAID IT THEMSELVES !!..

MY GAWD, kojima always says this is the last MGS is it ever is? the industry is full of fucking

 

[Desolator]

Is there a link to the any gameplay videos?

 

[Chandoo]

MY GAWD, kojima always says this is the last MGS is it ever is? the industry is full of fucking

kojima received death threats i'll let you know, poor guy.

BECAUSE YOU CANT FUCKING READ !!!!
READ WHAT I POSTED EARLIER YOUR ANSWER IS IN THERE
AFTER DOING 70% HALO3 THEY LOOK BACK AND SAY THEY MESSED UP 2 YEARS LATER.

do you have any links etc where bungie later say that they were wrong or something ? no ? then ?

 

[devilscallmedad]

kojima received death threats i'll let you know, poor guy.

lol but he FREAKING SAID THAT HIMSELF,

do you have any links etc where bungie later say that they were wrong or something ? no ? then ?

download the 1up yours it should be somewhere in nov/dec

 

[Chandoo]

lol but he FREAKING SAID THAT HIMSELF,

yes and im admitting that, you wont see me making lame excuses like "they're perfectionists thats why they recalled kojima" lol. He returned, because of his incompetent junior's plain and simple.

your turn to admit bungie messed up devil.

download the 1up yours it should be somewhere in nov/dec

yeah like im going to waste so much time lol.. if it was that important there'd be an article about it wouldnt it.