iPhones 2013 Thread - The 5C & 5S ~ Innovation at its best !?

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Re: iPhones 2013 Thread - The 5C & 5S ~ Innovation at its best !?

You tell me. How much of a performance bump was moving from a quad-core Exynos in S3 to an octa-core in S4?
How much did Samsung claim it to be and how much was it actually? You are the one who is supposed to answer that you know as you are the one accusing them of lying.

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iPhones 2013 Thread - The 5C & 5S ~ Innovation at its best !?

Once an iPhone Fan will always be iPhone Fan,
You can't even think about another phone Salman Bahi, I was 100% sure that Apple won't change display size or resolution in iPhone 5S, so I'm not disappointed at all, and I know iPhone 6 will have bigger display & at least 720p resolution.
Also after having 200/300 apps in iTunes library u can't just abundant them isn't it?

Btw Note 3 is also gud


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Yup i agree to that my lil brother. Anyways i have already ordered the Gold 32gb 5s. In sha Allah in coming weeks it would be delivered to my doorsteps.
 

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How much did Samsung claim it to be and how much was it actually? You are the one who is supposed to answer that you know as you are the one accusing them of lying.

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Well I already gave you a hint but here it is. There is little to know difference in performance from S3 to S4. There is no games out there, or none that I can think of, that won't run properly on S3 but will do on S4. Small things like app launch times to performance of apps themselves has remained little to unchanged from S3 to S4. The move from a quad-core Exynos to a octa-core Exynos is just a topi drama that brings no real world performance improvement. In fact it has reduced performance considering the number of people complaining about lag on their S4.

Now you want to talk about iPhone. There are tons of game that take advantage of the superior hardware on the iPhone 5. Even general UI performance has improved from 4S to 5 and the difference will be more pronounced in iOS 7. Infinity Blade 3 has already been announced that will take advantage of A7 chipset in iPhone 5S. When you buy a new iPhone you actually see stuff in the App Store that will take advantage of the new phone.

On Android? Antutu and quadrant scores is all you can do is to make yourself feel better about the superior hardware. Just the fact that a dual core Moto X performs better than a 8-core Galaxy S4 should be laughable enough.
 

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[MENTION=18102]Lord Ammar[/MENTION] have you even used Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 side by side ? the difference in performance is quite obvious, just try any current game even the difference in screen makes you buy the new model. On iPhone 5S the screen is same old type.
 

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@Lord Ammar have you even used Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 side by side ? the difference in performance is quite obvious, just try any current game even the difference in screen makes you buy the new model. On iPhone 5S the screen is same old type.
I have used both of them side by side, and I suggest you do so too before talking about something you have no idea about. Samsung has always had a habit of bragging about dual cores, octa cores or whatever which looks good on paper but does not always translate itself in the real world.
 

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@Lord Ammar have you even used Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 side by side ? the difference in performance is quite obvious, just try any current game even the difference in screen makes you buy the new model. On iPhone 5S the screen is same old type.
Yaar aik to tum post parhte nae ho aur reply kar dete ho. FFS read what I wrote. Do you see any mention of screen? I'm talking about speed here. And no, you're wrong. There is little to no difference between general performance of S3 and S4. Tried and tested.
 

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[MENTION=10035]talalthegreat[/MENTION] oh sorry I haven't owned a Galaxy S3, have never used a Galaxy S4, never maintained more than 4 Galaxy S2, never used a iPhone (oh they called "the remote control") :lol: :lol: Yes, Companies brag about their products (apple claimed 46x or something improvement over original iPhone, I don't know who is going to verify this claim ? ), but what matter is actual performance. how user feel about it.

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[MENTION=18102]Lord Ammar[/MENTION] there was key word in my post "even"
 

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Well I already gave you a hint but here it is. There is little to know difference in performance from S3 to S4. There is no games out there, or none that I can think of, that won't run properly on S3 but will do on S4. Small things like app launch times to performance of apps themselves has remained little to unchanged from S3 to S4. The move from a quad-core Exynos to a octa-core Exynos is just a topi drama that brings no real world performance improvement. In fact it has reduced performance considering the number of people complaining about lag on their S4.

Now you want to talk about iPhone. There are tons of game that take advantage of the superior hardware on the iPhone 5. Even general UI performance has improved from 4S to 5 and the difference will be more pronounced in iOS 7. Infinity Blade 3 has already been announced that will take advantage of A7 chipset in iPhone 5S. When you buy a new iPhone you actually see stuff in the App Store that will take advantage of the new phone.

On Android? Antutu and quadrant scores is all you can do is to make yourself feel better about the superior hardware. Just the fact that a dual core Moto X performs better than a 8-core Galaxy S4 should be laughable enough.
What a joke of a troll you have become. I have a galaxy S4 at my home, the general performance difference between it and the S3 is massive.

Secondly there is something you need to get into your fanboy head. The galaxy S4 has TWICE the number of pixels as an S3 whereas the 5S has the same resolution as 5, yes ofcourse its easier driving a smaller lower PPI screen thats no news you know.

Now lets come to the original point. Why on earth do you keep blabbing about "octa" core when you know very well its just a power saving chipset? Where did samsung hype the octa core chip as ZOMG DOUBLE THE PERFORMANCE OF QUAD CORE?? Seriously where is your link? Bas fazool kee batain hi kar sakto ho haina?

I might as well clear your curiosty, yes the S4 is twice as fast as S3 if not more.

Samsung Galaxy S4 review: Supernova - GSMArena.com

Care to show me how many games dont run well on a 4S but they do on a 5? Do you realise that many android games have the high, medium and low graphics settings to take advantage of the latest hardware? The same is the case with iOS. It is no console gaming like you want to think, most devs still support the iphone 4 which severely limits the scope of games. Console gaming is the only non-fragmented gaming platform in the world.
 

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Octa-Core is a power saving chipset? And I thought I'm the 'joke of a troll' here :confused:
Dont tell me you dont know about this? There are 2 different quad core CPU's in one chipset where the weaker quad core is only there for power saving. Its misleading marketing but I dont remember samsung "claiming" anything false about it. Heck the CEO himself said it makes no difference if you get the quad core or octa core version.

But in any case the faster quad core chip in the S4 is a whole generation ahead of the S3 CPU and so is the GPU.
 

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Dont tell me you dont know about this? There are 2 different quad core CPU's in one chipset where the weaker quad core is only there for power saving. Its misleading marketing but I dont remember samsung "claiming" anything false about it. Heck the CEO himself said it makes no difference if you get the quad core or octa core version.

But in any case the faster quad core chip in the S4 is a whole generation ahead of the S3 CPU and so is the GPU.
Oh I know all about how the chipset saves power in THEORY. I also know how in real life it made no difference in battery timings and gave no performance benefits either which is why the chipset was bashed to hell by knowledgable people (Brian Klug). It is also why now Samsung is moving towards an update that will allow all 8 cores to work simultaneously. Good luck finding Android apps and games that take advantage of 4 cores, let alone 8.
 

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Oh I know all about how the chipset saves power in THEORY. I also know how in real life it made no difference in battery timings and gave no performance benefits either which is why the chipset was bashed to hell by knowledgable people (Brian Klug). It is also why now Samsung is moving towards an update that will allow all 8 cores to work simultaneously. Good luck finding Android apps and games that take advantage of 4 cores, let alone 8.
So just because something failed means the company lied? So apple lied about maps then? And this octa-core thing was developed by ARM not samsung.

Apple also lied about the ipad 3 performance, they said the new GPU makes sure performance is not compromised by the new resolution but we all know that was not the case.

4 cores arent for an app to take advantage of its for effortless multi-tasking. What would you know iOS 6 didnt have any such thing as multi-tasking. :)
 

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So just because something failed means the company lied? So apple lied about maps then? And this octa-core thing was developed by ARM not samsung.

Apple also lied about the ipad 3 performance, they said the new GPU makes sure performance is not compromised by the new resolution but we all know that was not the case.

4 cores arent for an app to take advantage of its for effortless multi-tasking. What would you know iOS 6 didnt have any such thing as multi-tasking. :)
What do you mean just because something failed the company lied. Of course they lied. That is such BS. Power saving is a quantifiable phenomena and if you say this particular chip helps in power saving and it doesn't, then you're flat out lying.

And you know what, despite the Apple Maps fiasco, they are still pretty good for Pakistan. In fact after Google, the best maps for Pakistan are Apple maps, at least for big cities. Unlike Nokia HERE there is more labelled than just 1 road in the whole of Islamabad and Pindi.

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What would you know iOS 6 didnt have any such thing as multi-tasking. :)
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What do you mean just because something failed the company lied. Of course they lied. That is such BS. Power saving is a quantifiable phenomena and if you say this particular chip helps in power saving and it doesn't, then you're flat out lying.

And you know what, despite the Apple Maps fiasco, they are still pretty good for Pakistan. In fact after Google, the best maps for Pakistan are Apple maps, at least for big cities. Unlike Nokia HERE there is more labelled than just 1 road in the whole of Islamabad and Pindi.

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Where did samsung say that the cota core version will have better battery life? Did samsung charge more for the octa core version? Why are you getting so worked up then?

No its not "pretty good" in pakistan. Apple called their maps as "the most powerful maps" when they clearly knew they werent and even stopped calling them that so yes thats what lying is.



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Apple Stops Calling Its Maps "The Most Powerful"
 
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