how to approach a psychiatric doctor fo a legitimate cure

babloo

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hello pakgamers , as being an old member of this forum no need for intro's but i slightly need advice on a good psychic doc , for a cure i have suffered many mental problems lately i didnt even went to school for almost 12 years and lost it all , and lately cant coup with them they have been a burden for me for atleast 13 years since my father's death , it feels like i cant handle myself , i always need someone to tell me to to this properly even brushing my teeth , i was suffering schzirophernia psychosis paranoia fear hallucinations in 2008 i almost killed my self with a knife stabbed 2 times hopefully the knife didnt penetrated thank God for that , since then i have been hospitalized 5 times , i only got to know from the doctors that i had a bipolar disorder from nazimabad pyschiatric hospital when was not even told me only to my mother and since these hospitals shifts i have been dragged to these stupid wards for treatment of (electroconvulsive therapy) i dont know how many people are familiar with Its a painful shock treatment when administered without anesthesia which i hate and fear a lot and is the most biased therapy after i was finished with this therapy i suffered weakness , saliva coming out of my mouth which i couldnt control tremors panic attacks and what not happened after this stupid therapy ,mentally i am still as the same as i was before physically this therapy decimated me , these doctors only talk to mother that he should only be shifted to the ward for months for treatment this is his only treatment , doctors dont talk about my symptons my problems just guzzle money from my mother , secondly i have been weak in my education since childhood a lot my brain gets really exhausted immediately whenever i study , i have researched on google a lot about this bipolar disorder and found that not only i could be suffering from this but alongside (ADD) Attention deficit disorder maybe dyslexia , even a underactive thyroid in most cases for bipolars or vitamin mineral deficiency like D , B12 , (ADD) are mostly deficient in magnesium and zinc levels , my real concern where can i find a doctor who listens to you gives you a cure without hospitilizing you in karachi for the love of God .

recently a research from taiwan has been done that iron deficiency could also lead to mental disorders like bipolar and mental retardation
one of my general physician suggested me to go to Dr Iqbal afridi national hospital , if anyone is familiar with bipolar .

i need a word from you guys please share whatever information you have what should i do to finish it thanks .
 

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if going abroad is an option, I would suggest going to another country....Also you might want to talk to a couple of doctors from outside pakistan on internet and ask for their opinion on this matter
 

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hello pakgamers , as being an old member of this forum no need for intro's but i slightly need advice on a good psychic doc , for a cure i have suffered many mental problems lately i didnt even went to school for almost 12 years and lost it all , and lately cant coup with them they have been a burden for me for atleast 13 years since my father's death , it feels like i cant handle myself , i always need someone to tell me to to this properly even brushing my teeth , i was suffering schzirophernia psychosis paranoia fear hallucinations in 2008 i almost killed my self with a knife stabbed 2 times hopefully the knife didnt penetrated thank God for that , since then i have been hospitalized 5 times , i only got to know from the doctors that i had a bipolar disorder from nazimabad pyschiatric hospital when was not even told me only to my mother and since these hospitals shifts i have been dragged to these stupid wards for treatment of (electroconvulsive therapy) i dont know how many people are familiar with Its a painful shock treatment when administered without anesthesia which i hate and fear a lot and is the most biased therapy after i was finished with this therapy i suffered weakness , saliva coming out of my mouth which i couldnt control tremors panic attacks and what not happened after this stupid therapy ,mentally i am still as the same as i was before physically this therapy decimated me , these doctors only talk to mother that he should only be shifted to the ward for months for treatment this is his only treatment , doctors dont talk about my symptons my problems just guzzle money from my mother , secondly i have been weak in my education since childhood a lot my brain gets really exhausted immediately whenever i study , i have researched on google a lot about this bipolar disorder and found that not only i could be suffering from this but alongside (ADD) Attention deficit disorder maybe dyslexia , even a underactive thyroid in most cases for bipolars or vitamin mineral deficiency like D , B12 , (ADD) are mostly deficient in magnesium and zinc levels , my real concern where can i find a doctor who listens to you gives you a cure without hospitilizing you in karachi for the love of God .

recently a research from taiwan has been done that iron deficiency could also lead to mental disorders like bipolar and mental retardation
one of my general physician suggested me to go to Dr Iqbal afridi national hospital , if anyone is familiar with bipolar .

i need a word from you guys please share whatever information you have what should i do to finish it thanks .


ok. i understand the whole situation.. just one line wanna say:


"JUST PRAYER TO ALLAH PAK FOR UR HEALTH AND THIS UMMAT DEAR.InshAllah, every thing will be help.. Just stay connect with the ALLAH PAK" .

dont go here and there ...
 

frazgta

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This isn't the best place to discuss this. However, I would suggest going to a Private psychiatrist or something. You can ask a doctor in your family to suggest a good one.
 

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Calling all doctors!
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[MENTION=12352]JJDoctor[/MENTION]


I will try and get some names and numbers of some good shrinks that can help.


And You need a proper diagnosis brother :)

INSHALLAH everything will be fine.
 

haroonshaikh

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Diagnosis of Psychiatric illness in not much a complex issue. But what you need is good medications that would minimally interfere with your daily life.
Currently the psychiatrist i know in terms of giving appropriate time discussing their problems with patients in LNH is Dr Bina Saad. She is a psychiatrist trained from USA.

You can check her OPD timings at Liaquat National Hospital & Medical College

May Allah solve all your problems
 

JJDoctor

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Bro, I understand your situation and if you are already diagnosed as a Bipolar disorder then dont leave its medications. From your post and past occurrences, its more like a Severe depressive illness. Having suicidal thoughts needs admission.

You really have to fight it, 80% of your cure is with counseling. I have a doctor friend who suffers this bipolar syndrome but he isn't that severe. If you were here in Rawalpindi, I would have admitted you in my hospital and had full checkup.


Get a checkup with good psychiatrist in your locality. You will get over with it soon inshallah... :)
 

babloo

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Dank , Hamilton .
if going abroad is an option, I would suggest going to another country....Also you might want to talk to a couple of doctors from outside pakistan on internet and ask for their opinion on this matter
good idea though .

ok. i understand the whole situation.. just one line wanna say:


"JUST PRAYER TO ALLAH PAK FOR UR HEALTH AND THIS UMMAT DEAR.InshAllah, every thing will be help.. Just stay connect with the ALLAH PAK" .

dont go here and there ...
i once remember if you know karachi areas , walked from saddar area to clifton to defence when i was having manic depressive events i loudly chanted kalima e shahadat at bilawal house where there were several police personal thankgod i didnt get apprehended though , that moment was so embarrassing .

thanks bro .
This isn't the best place to discuss this. However, I would suggest going to a Private psychiatrist or something. You can ask a doctor in your family to suggest a good one.
for me this is my second home i have bin here for 6 dam years i love this community , whenever i go to a psych i end up in the ward with shock therapy , its difficult me bro so bare with me .

Calling all doctors!
@haroonshaikh
@UmairS1
@JJDoctor


I will try and get some names and numbers of some good shrinks that can help.


And You need a proper diagnosis brother :)

INSHALLAH everything will be fine.
i am sorry to say but all they do is hog money end you up in a hospital bed with shock therapy , i really appreciate your concerns bro thanks .

Diagnosis of Psychiatric illness in not much a complex issue. But what you need is good medications that would minimally interfere with your daily life.
Currently the psychiatrist i know in terms of giving appropriate time discussing their problems with patients in LNH is Dr Bina Saad. She is a psychiatrist trained from USA.

You can check her OPD timings at Liaquat National Hospital & Medical College

May Allah solve all your problems
psychiatric docs are difficult to talk with they dont listen , they only talk to my mother when she around had very bad experience with nazimabad psychiatric and sarhandi phase 3 defence view , i didnt get cured .

i just started my medication today , i only feel comfortable with sleeping pills rather than antidepressants , relating with my smoking habit which i left , i was recommended Dr Iqbal Afridi national hospital karachi , i hope i get my head straight meet the doc you recommend thanks bro .
 

babloo

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Dank , Hamilton .
Bro, I understand your situation and if you are already diagnosed as a Bipolar disorder then dont leave its medications. From your post and past occurrences, its more like a Severe depressive illness. Having suicidal thoughts needs admission.

You really have to fight it, 80% of your cure is with counseling. I have a doctor friend who suffers this bipolar syndrome but he isn't that severe. If you were here in Rawalpindi, I would have admitted you in my hospital and had full checkup.


Get a checkup with good psychiatrist in your locality. You will get over with it soon inshallah... :)
that was 2008 i had psychosis with it which i was admitted to , i was cured from schizrophrenia and hallucinations , but atm from my last checkup in 2012 i had bipolar the doc diagnosed , i only had 1 suicidal thought in 4 years , but atm i am just acting crazy i just dont act normal i have to stiffen myself to coup with it , oh and doctor sahab thanks for the admitting advice which induced fear in me now i wont be able to sleep all night thanks for that . :2cool:
 
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NaNoW

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that was 2008 i had psychosis with it which i was admitted to , i was cured from schizrophrenia and hallucinations , but atm from my last checkup i had bipolar the doc diagnosed , i only had 1 suicidal thought in 4 years , but atm i am just acting crazy i just dont act normal i have to stiffen myself to coup with it , oh and doctor sahab thanks for the admitting advice which induced fear in me now i wont be able to sleep all night thanks for that . :2cool:
the thing is ....I say contacting doctors outside Pakistan, even just for diagnoses is because in Pakistan we are behind the curve on mental health...I mean they will know much better and newer techniques for improving health..I mean I am sure there must be an alternate solution to shock therapy..
 

Benighted

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Perhaps what you need is a good psychologist rather than a psychiatrist. I'm not exactly sure, but from what I've heard, psychiatrists just prescribe you anti-depressants and medication whereas psychologists rely more on counseling.

I'm so sorry I can't be of more help. I hope you can find a doctor who can help you with your problems.

Stay strong.
 

limpix007

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i dont want to kill the flow of this thread but the peak english you have and the grammer , you seem perfectly fine . just offer namaz and everything will be ok
just learn to control your body bro

peace out
 

babloo

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Nov 18, 2007
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Dank , Hamilton .
the thing is ....I say contacting doctors outside Pakistan, even just for diagnoses is because in Pakistan we are behind the curve on mental health...I mean they will know much better and newer techniques for improving health..I mean I am sure there must be an alternate solution to shock therapy..
light therapy doctors advice outside of paksitan .

thats why i researched a lot about bipolar on google and dont trust doctors inside of paksitan , in most and various cases bipolar is linked to hypothyrodism which in most cases is not even a mental illness to begin with , masturbation , attention deficit disorder , vitamin b12 vitamin d magnesium or zinc or omega 3 deficiency can lead to various mental illnesses and can be cured by going on a good diet other alternates are medicine but most of them have side effects which result in other mental problems , this is a burden i never got my vitamin levels checked though i am not a healthy person my iron levels are low 11.1 ml , normal levels are 13.5 to 18.5 ml for males ,which the doctors dont even care about , too hectic .
 

babloo

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Dank , Hamilton .
Perhaps what you need is a good psychologist rather than a psychiatrist. I'm not exactly sure, but from what I've heard, psychiatrists just prescribe you anti-depressants and medication whereas psychologists rely more on counseling.

I'm so sorry I can't be of more help. I hope you can find a doctor who can help you with your problems.

Stay strong.
woah i never thought off that was confusing me the whole time psychiatrist, psychologist thanks for clearing that up .

i dont want to kill the flow of this thread but the peak english you have and the grammer , you seem perfectly fine . just offer namaz and everything will be ok
just learn to control your body bro

peace out
and you have such good english dude i dont know how can you say that you are weak in studies :/
i am a c grader was the dumbest person in my school years , i cant learn urdu properly i cant speak properly , this all happen when staying on the internet too much , thanks for the namaz advice i hope get it as quick as possible .

oh catherine zeta jones and russel brand are bipolar disorder patients as well , it can happen to anyone with skills or without .
 
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limpix007

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dude i teach kids , how old are you now dude , sorry to hear about your father's death , hamara bi time aye ga ham sub ko akhir kar wapis laut na he hey ALLAH key pas :)

khair ALLAH janat naseeb krey unhey , yar bhai C grade sey kuch nahe hota na parhaie krney sey , passa kamaney key liyah dimag cha heay hota hey (you are talking to memon bro and i can give you 101% gurantee you dont need education to earn money you need brain boy) and you have brelliant mind bro (spelling galat kr di brillent ki menay shayad khair choro spelling ) yar ALLAH ka shukar kr jisay bi ho atleast sahe salamat ho ...
 

limpix007

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i have tried suside too who chore key chali gaie the :(
but mera he kasor tha lol :D :D :D still i am laughing about that
dude daikh
i searched your disorder on google ... yar try to stay happy
you are a muslim there is nothing to be sad about man
be happy and stay happy ... there is nothing that you cant control

you can control your body be strong !!!
 

cobby

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Dude , There are two ways one the medical way the other spiritual way .

Both need to be done , Namaz is big weapon but you need medication as well , Dont try vitamins your self , talk to good psychiatrist the one mentioned by PG doctors here and ask them which vitamins to take , over dose of vitamins is also dangerous .

Get proper psychiatrist tell your mother you need to tell your symptoms your self and only you can tell them better than any one , and the doc should talk to you not your mother .
 

haroonshaikh

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Well honestly speaking, I do have seen some miracles. I have personally noticed people getting alot alot better and gradually taken off all medications just because they started to pray 5 times. Even i have personally experienced it. I am no moulvi but there were some hard times before when i was pretty sick,,, and yeah mentally tooo,, but it eventually got better and now i am perfectly fine mashAllah.. Never took medications..

It would be advisable if you get abit of social.I mean, meeting your friends, hanging out, and even joining support groups which might be quite difficult to find here..Also consider adopting a hobby to keep yourself busy, it can be anything. you can even make money sitting at home doing small work.
 

Benighted

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It would be advisable if you get abit of social.I mean, meeting your friends, hanging out, and even joining support groups which might be quite difficult to find here..Also consider adopting a hobby to keep yourself busy, it can be anything. you can even make money sitting at home doing small work.
Support groups is a good idea if only one could find one...
 
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