MULTI Cyberpunk 2077 - Base game + Phantom Liberty sales cross 30 million copies!

[Radical]

Yar CPUs are fine this gen. yeh koi aur issue hay.

 

[SolitarySoldier]

Wake up, samurai! We have a post to bump.

 

[Necrokiller]

If that's the case, why are the stressful areas favoring PS5 (by as much as 14fps at times, as seen in the video), despite both consoles having the same cpu that's even clocked a little higher on the Series X?

You say as if PS5 maintains the difference with any meaningful level of consistency lol

Both are struggling

Meanwhile, VGTech also found the game to be dropping as low as 1160 on both Series X and PS5 and higher bound counts are rare.

lowest resolution found being approximately 2062x1160. Pixel counts at 3840x2160 seem to be very rare on PS5 in Performance Mode.

the lowest resolution found being approximately 2062x1160. Pixel counts at 3840x2160 seem to be very rare on Xbox Series X in Performance Mode.

 

[CerebralTiger]

You say as if PS5 maintains the difference with any meaningful level of consistency lol

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I said...

by as much as 14fps at times, as seen in the video

...which clearly means my point was that PS5 is consistently in the lead in the areas DF tested. One of the screenshots you took from the video shows a lead of 6fps lol.

So, again, if the game is cpu limited as you said, why is the same cpu clocked lower in the PS5 outperforming the Series X?

Both are struggling

Selective information lmao

Maintaining the target 16.67ms for over 98% of the time is "struggling"

Even in VG Tech's video, the PS5 maintains a stable 60fps/16.67ms when driving, while Series X drops performance with the same cpu running at a slightly higher clock

Meanwhile, VGTech also found the game to be dropping as low as 1160 on both Series X and PS5 and higher bound counts are rare.

Of course you forgot to mention what those higher bounds are

PS5 in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest resolution found being approximately 2062x1160. Pixel counts at 3840x2160 seem to be very rare on PS5 in Performance Mode.

Xbox Series X in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest resolution found being approximately 2062x1160. Pixel counts at 3840x2160 seem to be very rare on Xbox Series X in Performance Mode.

Below are some example pixel counts for certain scenes on PS5 and Xbox Series X in Performance Mode. Note that these figures are approximate and not necessarily representative of how the entirety of a given area will render.

Kabuki Entrance - PS5 2176x1224, Series X 2304x1296
Near Police Station - PS5: 2435x1370, Series X: 2560x1440
Outside Tom's Diner - PS5: 2506x1410, Series X: 2631x1480
Corpo Start Building - PS5: 2656x1494, Series X: 2744x1544
Streetkid Start - PS5: 2062x1160, Series X: 2062x1160

The Xbox Series consoles appear to be using VRS. FSR appears to be used to upscale the image to 3840x2160 on PS5 and Series X in both modes and 2560x1440 on Series S. The UI resolution is also rendered at 3840x2160 on PS5 and Series X in both modes and 2560x1440 on Series S.

 

[Chandoo]

box Series X in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest resolution found being approximately 2062x1160.

Dynamic 4K/60 on a $499 machine for unoptimized code.

Punching above it's weight!

 

[Radical]

The framerate IS smooth on the PS5, barely any struggles to be noticed when playin'

Necro is just jealous!

 

[Necrokiller]

Selective information lmao

1st percentile 50fps and only beginning area tested. Selective indeed and still struggling

Even in VG Tech's video, the PS5 maintains a stable 60fps/16.67ms when driving, while Series X drops performance with the same cpu running at a slightly higher clock

Do you see higher crowd density in those driving segments than the densely populated areas? Perhaps you need to reassess whats causes more stress

Of course you forgot to mention what those higher bounds are

Its literally mentioned in the quote that pixel counts of 2160p are rare. That also establishes the (very rare) upper bound (when looking at the sky)

For people who love their consistency, RT mode delivers that atleast lol. 1160p, 45-60fps without RT, nah, this ain't it

 

[Chandoo]

The framerate IS smooth on the PS5, barely any struggles to be noticed when playin'

Necro is just jealous!

Thank him Radical, he beta tested the game for us all year.

 

[Necrokiller]

When your "beta" build has RT feature set with DLSS but your console brethren get an alpha build running at 1160p without RT over a year later...

 

[Chandoo]

Experimental features vs overall game stability, less crashes and issues.

Yeah, thanks for the beta testing guys

 

[Necrokiller]

"experimental" version at launch:

Enjoy the alpha choombas

 

[CerebralTiger]

1st percentile 50fps and only beginning area tested. Selective indeed and still struggling

Lmao @ beginning area. It's an open world game, and you gain access to a major portion within minutes. Also, 1st percentile means exactly what it says. It's literally a rare worst case scenario

Do you see higher crowd density in those driving segments than the densely populated areas? Perhaps you need to reassess whats causes more stress

High crowd density areas are performing better on PS5 as well by over 10fps at times. You still haven't explained why this is the case, despite it being cpu limited (according to you) the Series X having a more capable cpu

Also, the whole basis of...

The game is CPU limited on PS5/XSX even without ray tracing

...was...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1495445511125540868

...which clearly states "when driving and such". So perhaps it is you who needs to reassess here

For people who love their consistency, RT mode delivers that atleast lol. 1160p, 45-60fps without RT, nah, this ain't it

100% consistency isn't there in RT mode on Series X, as noted by DF

Over 98% consistency works for me

 

[Chandoo]

From PC Gamer no less.

 

[Necrokiller]

Lmao @ beginning area. It's an open world game, and you gain access to a major portion within minutes. Also, 1st percentile means exactly what it says. It's literally a rare worst case scenario

LMAO! I don't think it means what you think it means. Every performance issue a rare case for CerebralTiger on consoles

High crowd density areas are performing better better on PS5 as well, by over 10fps at times. You still haven't explained why this is the case, despite the Series X having a more capable cpu

Maybe you can explain why an area with higher NPCs count is stressing the consoles more than while driving on empty roads?

Also, the whole basis of...

...was...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1495445511125540868

...which clearly states "when driving and such". So perhaps it is you who needs to reassess here

"...and such". Nah, he means the same thing. You still haven't explained how Alex is wrong and the game isn't CPU bottlenecked

100% consistency isn't there in RT mode on Series X, as noted by DF

But it is there on PS5 (atleast for the time it is recorded lol). And you chose a mode which is inferior in consistency.
So, are we at a point where you are an ex-VGTech fan now?

Over 98% consistency works for me

If you only play for the 6mins that VG Tech recorded (minus the RT reflections and emissive lights that a cyberpunk world troooooly benefits from)

 

[Necrokiller]

From PC Gamer no less.

No glitches here

.

 

[Major Aly]

Thank him Radical, he beta tested the game for us all year.

 

[CerebralTiger]

LMAO! I don't think it means what you think it means. Every performance issue a rare case for CerebralTiger on consoles

Random definition I just googled up:

The 1st percentile means that 1 percent or more is above you and 99 percent is below you. The percentile is a way of illustrating how common your result is compared to others.

Exactly what I think it means

"...and such". Nah, he means the same thing.

You'd think if it were the main thing he'd say something along the lines of, "crowded areas and such"

You still haven't explained how Alex is wrong and the game isn't CPU bottlenecked

I haven't said anything about him being right or wrong. I'm just trying to get insight into why the PS5 is outperforming the Series X in crowded areas despite having a slightly inferior cpu

 

[Major Aly]

 

[Necrokiller]

Random definition I just googled up:

Exactly what I think it means

Where "others" refers to the set of data collected, which is limited in these analysis, not the hours you spend throughout the game

You'd think if it were the main thing he'd say something along the lines of, "crowded areas and such"

Good thing the video covers how overburdened the CPU gets in different scenarios, like the crowded areas

I haven't said anything about him being right or wrong. I'm just trying to get insight into why the PS5 is outperforming the Series X in crowded areas despite having a slightly inferior cpu

Oho. Guess we'll have to wait for some detailed answers then

 

[CerebralTiger]

Where "others" refers to the set of data collected, which is limited in these analysis, not the hours you spend throughout the game

Which is true for every game ever tested, so why bring up such concerns here?

Good thing the video covers how overburdened the CPU gets in different scenarios, like the crowded areas

According to Alex, changing the crowd density from low to high has a 10% impact on cpu performance. I wouldn't call that overburdening lol. However, driving around the CiTy, even in low crowd areas, results in a series of quick LoD transitions that impact cpu performance. IIRC, the Series X saw its lowest drop in performance during DF's test when driving

Oho. Guess we'll have to wait for some detailed answers then

Oho, so you don't know why the PS5 is performing better with a slightly weaker cpu, even in your fav crowd heavy areas? That's too bad