MULTI Cyberpunk 2077 - Base game + Phantom Liberty sales cross 30 million copies!

[CerebralTiger]

I don't think it would put an end to your hate train towards everything CDPR but let's see ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Similarly, it doesn't look like someone's Cyberpunk love train is close to ending anytime soon. In fact, it's taking him on a rather fascinating trip, don't you think? :lol:

 

[CerebralTiger]

I don't think it would put an end to your hate train towards everything CDPR but let's see ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would you happen to be an insider? Seems like you had an idea it won't be playable for the press this year either :hah:

News of a 2nd developer controlled behind-closed-doors E3 demo began to surface today.

 

[CerebralTiger]

[MENTION=11352]Necrokiller[/MENTION] no thoughts on this? People getting confirmation to once again see another behind-closed-doors E3 demo played by a CDPR rep

"Here journalists, have a seat and settle down while we pour you a drink to make this a dazzling cinema experience" :hah:

 

[Necrokiller]

"Here journalists, have a seat and settle down while we pour you a drink to make this a dazzling cinema experience" :hah:

I wasn't aware that this is a new practice that you felt so strongly about.

 

[CerebralTiger]

I wasn't aware that this is a new practice that you felt so strongly about.

Wait, so you aren't disappointed that the media won't have hands-on impressions from this year's E3 as well?

 

[Necrokiller]

Wait, so you aren't disappointed that the media won't have hands-on impressions from this year's E3 as well?

What I wanna know is why you are singling out CDRP's decision to do behind-closed-doors and hands-off demos?

The Last of Us Part II Closed-Doors Demo Was the Same as the Public One

Since my demo, I’ve watched the showcase footage again to see if it was identical. There were no detours taken, no alternate ways of approaching a situation, and no words were spoken by the developers. The same enemies were killed in the same ways, and Ellie always took the exact same route.

There was no perceptible difference between the showcase gameplay presentation and what I was now seeing behind closed doors. The biggest change was that I was now watching the same thing with Neil Druckmann sitting three feet to my right.

At least other developers make an effort to show live gameplay instead of literally playing the same video file to the journalists :lol:

 

[CerebralTiger]

What I wanna know is why you are singling out CDRP's decision to do behind-closed-doors and hands-off demos?

Do I really have to explain why this happening 2 years in a row doesn't sound like a great thing to me? lol

Except Lost Legacy was playable for the press around the same period. If the press gets a hands-on demo for Cyberpunk soon after E3 or at Gamescom, then it's all cool.

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/uncharted-lost-legacy-hands-on-preview
https://www.gamereactor.eu/previews/575523/Uncharted+The+Lost+Legacy+HandsOn/

The first gameplay demo for TLoU II was shown last year, and it was hands-off. It's highly likely that the next time they let the press near the game, they'll get some hands-on time with it. If they don't, I'll be there to express my disappointment.

 

[Necrokiller]

Do I really have to explain why this happening 2 years in a row doesn't sound like a great thing to me? lol

No (because you have to have a problem with everything CDPR anyway ), but why are you insisting on others to feel the same way? lol

The game was showed in a playable state live. It will probably be demo'ed live this year too. Not sure whats so alarming about that. Not like NaughtyDog who prepares the same movie files for both public and private demos. Whether they show a playable demo this year doesn't excuse the hype they're building on a game which isn't even playable by their own representatives.

The first gameplay demo for TLoU II was shown last year, and it was hands-off.

It was hands-off even for the developers themselves :lol:

 

[CerebralTiger]

but why are you insisting on others to feel the same way? lol

I was asking for your opinion on the matter (whether you're cool, indifferent, or disappointed with the lack of media hands-on for this year's E3), not insisting that you feel the same way as I do lol.

Not like NaughtyDog who prepares the same movie files for both public and private demos.

Movie file or not, Naughty Dog lets the media play their games past the initial gameplay reveal. That's the differentiating factor here. Behind closed doors isn't the point here, it's when the media gets hands-on with the game.

 

[Necrokiller]

Movie file or not, Naughty Dog lets the media play their games past the initial gameplay reveal. That's the differentiating factor here.

Since you're analyzing it to this degree, when was Red Dead 2 and God of War made playable to the media after their reveal?

The differentiating factor, for me, is that C2077's first gameplay reveal was played live, twice, and was 48 mins long. Not a video playback for proof of concept.

 

[CerebralTiger]

The differentiating factor, for me, is that C2077's first gameplay reveal was played live, twice, and was 48 mins long. Not a video playback for proof of concept.

Great, but what about the second gameplay reveal? What are your expectations from that?

 

[Necrokiller]

Great, but what about the second gameplay reveal? What are your expectations from that?

You didn't answer, so I'll ask again:

When was Red Dead 2 and God of War made playable to the media after their reveal?

 

[khasho]

Highly anticipated game for me. I hope it has as good story and side quests as Witcher. For me witcher 3 is the best action rpg open world game ever. Game of the generation. Witcher 3 side content is better than some games main story.

 

[CerebralTiger]

When was Red Dead 2 and God of War made playable to the media after their reveal?

A month prior to their release. There was a lot of concern surrounding GoW, given that no one had played it and the studio itself was doubtful it would come together.

Unlike the re-envisioned GoW, RDR2 was a direct sequel/prequel and, hence, a known quantity, just like TLoU II. These games didn't need a hands-on as much as GoW or Cyberpunk did.

 

[Necrokiller]

A month prior to their release.

These games didn't need a hands-on

*face palm*

Thats some next level blind fanboy logic.

 

[CerebralTiger]

Thats some next level blind fanboy logic.

Selective quoting and then deeming it blind fanboy logic :hah:

Despite being a GoW fan, I had concerns regarding the game due to its new direction and a lack of media hands-on.

 

[Necrokiller]

Selective quoting and then deeming it blind fanboy logic :hah:

RDR2 was a direct sequel/prequel and, hence, a known quantity, just like TLoU II. These games didn't need a hands-on

Still reeks of blind fanboyism.

 

[CerebralTiger]

Kotaku: As Cyberpunk 2077 Development Intensifies, CD Projekt Red Pledges To Be 'More Humane' To Its Workers

The developer best known for The Witcher series has cultivated a reputation for crunch—asking its employees to work nights and weekends for weeks or months at a time—but studio management now tells Kotaku they want to improve their work-life balance, even if they continue to feel that crunch is a necessity.

“We’re known—let me be humble for a moment here—we are known for treating gamers with respect,” said Marcin Iwiński, the company’s co-founder, in an interview with Kotaku this week. “This is what we’ve been working hard toward. And I actually would [like] for us to also be known for treating developers with respect.”

One of the ways the company plans to do that, Iwiński said, is through a “non-obligatory crunch policy” that isn’t brand new but that the Warsaw-based CD Projekt Red plans to push harder. He wants to make it clear to Cyberpunk 2077’s developers that even when the studio asks them to work on nights and weekends, it’s not “mandatory.”

Perhaps they also wanted to preempt a potential story. After the publication of our Anthem investigation last month, which documented a turbulent development marked by mismanagement, crunch, and anxiety, four former CD Projekt Red employees reached out to tell me that they had seen similar problems in Warsaw. “I’ve felt that there are hundreds of parallels that could be drawn between the story of the rocky development of Anthem and the story of the rocky and even-more-rocky-to-become development of Cyberpunk 2077,” said one former CDPR employee in an e-mail. “At times, I’ve felt I could just replace the studio name and the game title, and it would all look so similar, almost identical.”

There have been rumors of financial trouble swirling within CD Projekt Red following the disappointing performance of last year’s Thronebreaker campaign for the studio’s virtual card game Gwent. Iwiński and Badowski denied the rumors. “We have a big war chest,” Iwiński said. There have also been signs that development on Cyberpunk 2077 might not be going smoothly. For example, as the employees who reached out told me, this year the company has told staff to work through Polish holidays, and that there will be mandated periods for vacation. Rather than take off whenever they’d like, CD Projekt Red’s developers have to limit their vacation to specific times in 2019. One period will be this summer, right after E3, while another will be in the winter.

@Chandoo @Necrokiller thoughts on the bolded? Jason's sources are usually credible.

Still reeks of blind fanboyism.

Because I've played the original, I know what to expect more or less (unless a different studio was making it, which isn't the case here)? The same would apply to a potential TW4.

It's not like CDPR has worked on something similar to Cyberpunk before. From Soft's new IPs, Bloodborne and Sekiro, were well within the realm of their past work.

 

[Necrokiller]

@Necrokiller thoughts on the bolded? Jason's sources are usually credible.

BREAKING: Game devs do crunch.

Analog stick support analog movement

Devil May Cry is a button masher

More news at 11.

 

[CerebralTiger]

BREAKING: Game devs do crunch.

The comparison with Anthem's troubled development was quite interesting, I thought.