confronted haram-khor police, Have some questions.

[hassansk]

So today I was going from landi khotal to Nazimabad via a rickshaw and the police stopped the rickshaw because it had no number plate at the back. So I was with my cousin and he asked us for the CNIC. I said that I don't have it then he asked where I lived. After that, without any pause, he immediately asked for rishwat, like this "Chalo beta dono pachas pachas rupee nikalo". This was the first time I was stopped by the police and asked for rishwat. The thing is that I am a Muslim and rishwat is something forbidden so I replied him I clear words "Me aik rupia rishwat ke naam nahi don ga, ye islam me manna hai. Me kuch bhi nahi don ga". Yup, he clearly got my message, then said "Thaane (jail) leke chalon" and shit like that. Then went away to deal with the rickshaw driver. After that he came back to us and said "Beta, hum ye nahi bool rahe ke ap hum ko rishwat do, hum to bas ye bool rahe han ke app hum ko chai pani ke paise dedo", I was like what da? Such immediate change in the attitude. I was running very late, and my cousin was getting desperate to reach home. I had enough so we handed him over a 50 rupees note, not in the name of rishwat but in the name of allah (zakat ke toor pe).
The haram-khor said "it is mandatory according to the law for every citizen to carry a CNIC all the time?" Is it true? If so then can you give me any reference.
So I gave him money in the name of Allah (zakat), would that count as rishwat by any chance? thought I had no intention in my mind of giving rishwat.
Seriously yar this has to stop. This rishwat thing, it is corrupting our whole nation.

 

[Tech Reaper]

So today I was going from landi khotal to Nazimabad via a rickshaw and the police stopped the rickshaw because it had no number plate at the back. So I was with my cousin and he asked us for the CNIC. I said that I don't have it then he asked where I lived. After that, without any pause, he immediately asked for rishwat, like this "Chalo beta dono pachas pachas rupee nikalo". This was the first time I was stopped by the police and asked for rishwat. The thing is that I am a Muslim and rishwat is something forbidden so I replied him I clear words "Me aik rupia rishwat ke naam nahi don ga, ye islam me manna hai. Me kuch bhi nahi don ga". Yup, he clearly got my message, then said "Thaane (jail) leke chalon" and shit like that. Then went away to deal with the rickshaw driver. After that he came back to us and said "Beta, hum ye nahi bool rahe ke ap hum ko rishwat do, hum to bas ye bool rahe han ke app hum ko chai pani ke paise dedo", I was like what da? Such immediate change in the attitude. I was running very late, and my cousin was getting desperate to reach home. I had enough so we handed him over a 50 rupees note, not in the name of rishwat but in the name of allah (zakat ke toor pe).
The haram-khor said "it is mandatory according to the law for every citizen to carry a CNIC all the time?" Is it true? If so then can you give me any reference.
So I gave him money in the name of Allah (zakat), would that count as rishwat by any chance? thought I had no intention in my mind of giving rishwat.
Seriously yar this has to stop. This rishwat thing, it is corrupting our whole nation.

Normally it is the duty of the government organizations to verify your identity/vehicle rather than you holding some form of identification on you. But in Pakistan you got to have at least a photocopy of everything - ID card, driving license, car registration book etc. This is how I evade such people. They ask for stuff and I show them and then they let me go without any 3rd question.

 

[puppet]

zakat fund shi he lol
n yeah i always have my copy of cnic with me while going to uni or office but only for if i need it, i dont know about original copy or law having it, but u could say k u r under age
n dont be afraid togoto thana bus zayda se zayda ye hona tha k ziada rishwat deni parni thi :crazy:

 

[manigamer]

i think zakat tou nahi maani jaye gee aisay but chalo jaan choraye whats 50rs rishwat bhi nahi mani jaye gee... ALLAH us ka bhalla karay LOL

 

[GloriousChicken]

Yes its mandatory for you to atleast have a Copy of your NIC.

But yeah, 50rs screw them. atleast you buzzed em off.


btw, was he fat by any chance?

 

[hamidkhatri]

This is neither rishwat nor zakat/kherat/sadqa ,this is khullam khulla ghunda gardi, u were forced to pay 50rs,and u knew it is haram (coz its actualy rishwat) but u were forced to do so Allah may forgive u...

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[Zeus MK]

not in the name of rishwat but in the name of allah (zakat ke toor pe).
The haram-khor said "it is mandatory according to the law for every citizen to carry a CNIC all the time?" Is it true? If so then can you give me any reference.
So I gave him money in the name of Allah (zakat), would that count as rishwat by any chance? thought I had no intention in my mind of giving rishwat.
Seriously yar this has to stop. This rishwat thing, it is corrupting our whole nation.

first of all, zakat/kherat is valid when u let the recipient know before handing it to him/her, so no it was not zakat. It was however a sort of robbery and alot more than that.
secondly yes you are required to carry id at all times, if u are under 18 then you may carry your father's copy.

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btw, was he fat by any chance?

you seem interested, want him to get his no. :shifty:

 

[hassansk]

Yes its mandatory for you to atleast have a Copy of your NIC.

But yeah, 50rs screw them. atleast you buzzed em off.


btw, was he fat by any chance?

Yup, he was a bit fat.

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This is neither rishwat nor zakat/kherat/sadqa ,this is khullam khulla ghunda gardi, u were forced to pay 50rs,and u knew it is haram (coz its actualy rishwat) but u were forced to do so Allah may forgive u...

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I hope so.

 

[MrALI]

lol :v (2t)(2t)(2t)

 

[Hassan0668]

Well it happened to me too. And in my case it was 200 rs. I resisted them like hell for half an hour, but at the end had to give it up. It was a dark night and i was on bike and sadly i didnt had bike registration copy. But i had my cnic and uni card. As a rationale guy thats enough for checking a person that he is obviously clean but no. They got to take what they got to take.

 

[babarhyd]

Sadly mistake is yours and we are reading your crying posts here. IT IS MANDATORY FOR EVERY CITIZEN TO HAVE HIS IDENTIFICARION CARD WITH HIM AT ALL TIMES, CAR REGISTRATION PAPERS OR BIKE REGISTRATION PAPERS if applicable. You on the other hand acted like some new kid in town. Grow up next time remember to bring your cnic when out on road.

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[hassansk]

Sadly mistake is yours and we are reading your crying posts here. IT IS MANDATORY FOR EVERY CITIZEN TO HAVE HIS IDENTIFICARION CARD WITH HIM AT ALL TIMES, CAR REGISTRATION PAPERS OR BIKE REGISTRATION PAPERS if applicable. You on the other hand acted like some new kid in town. Grow up next time remember to bring your cnic when out on road.

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Oh please! I agree it was my mistake and I didn't knew the law regarding CNIC. All that I am pissed about is that I was asked to pay rishwat. You know what, I fully accepted my mistake in front of the police and asked him for a genuine challan (jurmaana) but he just wanted rishwat.

 

[frazgta]

Sadly mistake is yours and we are reading your crying posts here. IT IS MANDATORY FOR EVERY CITIZEN TO HAVE HIS IDENTIFICARION CARD WITH HIM AT ALL TIMES, CAR REGISTRATION PAPERS OR BIKE REGISTRATION PAPERS if applicable. You on the other hand acted like some new kid in town. Grow up next time remember to bring your cnic when out on road.

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How can you possibly blame him for everything? How does not having your ID on you justify the police asking for bribes? Did you even read what the OP posted?

Don't trigger me!

 

[MrJayPlays]

Feel bad for you , but thats pakistan my friend . thats what you get here ini .

 

[NaNoW]

KARACHI: Rangers on Monday asked the people of Karachi to carry their original computerised national identity cards with them, otherwise they could be arrested.

“Citizens of Karachi are requested to keep with them their ID cards at all times for confirmation of their identity,” said a Rangers spokesman in a brief statement.
“It is further added that copies of ID cards will not be acceptable and the individual in question will be taken into custody till his or her identity is positively proven.”
The spokesman said that the law enforcement agencies were working to arrest criminals and target killers and the citizens should cooperate in the ongoing drive However, the paramilitary force did not explain as to how the move would benefit them.
Published in Dawn, April 21st, 2015

dont know if this is still applicable, I think it might be.
I used to carry a color copied laminated id card always..always have all necessary papers and dont give anyone any reason to call you out

 

[babarhyd]

How can you possibly blame him for everything? How does not having your ID on you justify the police asking for bribes? Did you even read what the OP posted?

Don't trigger me!

Buddy HE was WRONG thats it.

Oh please! I agree it was my mistake and I didn't knew the law regarding CNIC. All that I am pissed about is that I was asked to pay rishwat. You know what, I fully accepted my mistake in front of the police and asked him for a genuine challan (jurmaana) but he just wanted rishwat.

[MENTION=4177]NaNoW[/MENTION] post just said it all.

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[frazgta]

Buddy HE was WRONG thats it.
@NaNoW post just said it all.

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At least read the OP.

 

[Alveaenerle]

Sadly mistake is yours and we are reading your crying posts here. IT IS MANDATORY FOR EVERY CITIZEN TO HAVE HIS IDENTIFICARION CARD WITH HIM AT ALL TIMES, CAR REGISTRATION PAPERS OR BIKE REGISTRATION PAPERS if applicable. You on the other hand acted like some new kid in town. Grow up next time remember to bring your cnic when out on road.

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Thanks. Now we know whose dad is in the Police

 

[asad3man]

Well, they just find any reason to get their 'chae paani'. It will not be counted as Zakat but you mentioned , you had nothing in mind about Rishwat. So God knows better. However, all you can do is never insist them to leave or so. Be bold.

 

[docfrog]

Let it be something between You and Allah

It is not Zakat for sure as this doesn't fall in the category of Zakat

Sadqa , Probably true

But asking this question here on PG from gamers is is like asking Meera the best treatment for appendicitis instead of going to a qualified surgeon.

What ever happened was not justified and must be a shock for you. You gave some money. May Allah accept it and give "Hidayat" to that gentleman.

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