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faraany3k

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Oh really? Beyond was destined to get a mixed response from critics, given the experimental nature of the game.

Other than Naughty Dog, there's Sony Santa Monica (the team that made Ascension isn't their primary one), Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games, Polyphony Digital, all of which have delivered this gen. So, really, let's not go there.

A metascore of 72 should be right up your alley, though. Remember your beloved Arma 3?

Also, the search function isn't working so I can't fetch your post from another thread, but isn't Gamespot the only critic you trust? They gave Beyond a 9/10.

Well you are trying really hard to make Guerilla Games a legendary developer in these forums but we all know they are more like your average developers which make second tier FPS shooters. I mean KZ3 is like 84 on meta and agar kisi ko PS3 aur XBOX 360 pe Call of Duty se fursat ho tu yeh games bhe khel letay hain, time pass. Nothing out of the ordinary. Free2Play experience was designed to lure more crowds. Ofcourse you say that it is just a DEMO.

As far as Polyphony is concerned lol

Lets have a blast from the past, very funny indeed :)

Final nail-in-the-coffin. This game isn't even worth a rental! 2010's most disappointing and overrated game for sure.
http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/members/cerebraltiger/chandoo/index19.html#vmessage85028
Your golden words about another epic AAA studio

So yeah, point stil stands. You really have to question the credibilty of these so called AAA developers, whose most titles are worth renting or wholesale piracy lol
 

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I mean KZ3 is like 84 on meta and agar kisi ko PS3 aur XBOX 360 pe Call of Duty se fursat ho tu yeh games bhe khel letay hain, time pass. Nothing out of the ordinary.
An 84 is a respectable score, which is more than I can say for plenty of your beloved PC-only games. And, in case you didn't notice, KZ2 scored in the 90s. Even today, there are plenty of people playing KZ3. You'd have known if you'd actually have played it. lol

Free2Play experience was designed to lure more crowds. Ofcourse you say that it is just a DEMO.
And that's exactly what it is; a multiplayer demo. Unlike actual free2play games, there's a level cap.

Lets have a blast from the past, very funny indeed :)
lol my opinion on Gamespot has changed a lot since then. Anyways, GT5 settled at 84 on Metacritic, which once again is a respectable score.

Heck, even GOW Ascension is at 80. These are all still great games. Not amazing, perhaps, but worthy exclusive (unlike Arma 3 lol).
 

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lol my opinion on Gamespot has changed a lot since then. Anyways, GT5 settled at 84 on Metacritic, which once again is a respectable score.

Heck, even GOW Ascension is at 80. These are all still great games. Not amazing, perhaps, but worthy exclusive (unlike Arma 3 lol).
Respectable, not worth renting and overrated :)

Your words sum them up so beautifully :)
 

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Polyphony Digital, all of which have delivered this gen. - See more at: http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f11/beyond-two-souls-|ot|-what-180983/index2.html#post2243334
As far as Polyphony is concerned lol
Lets have a blast from the past, very funny indeed :)

Final nail-in-the-coffin. This game isn't even worth a rental!2010's most disappointing and overrated game for sure.

http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/members/cerebraltiger/chandoo/index19.html#vmessage85028
Your golden words about another epic AAA studio


Flawless victory!
 

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Well you are trying really hard to make Guerilla Games a legendary developer in these forums but we all know they are more like your average developers which make second tier FPS shooters. I mean KZ3 is like 84 on meta and agar kisi ko PS3 aur XBOX 360 pe Call of Duty se fursat ho tu yeh games bhe khel letay hain, time pass. Nothing out of the ordinary.
I wonder what your definition of a top-tier shooter is. With the exception of Bioshock Infinite (which I wouldn't exactly term as a traditional FPS), I doubt there's been any shooter that has managed to cross that 90 meta threshold in the past few years. Even the mighty Halo 4 fell short of the mark.

My KZ3 playtime would probably seem infinitesimal in comparison to the hours I've spent playing COD. Two guesses as to which one I'd prefer to play over the other.

Quality, not quantity my friend.
 

CerebralTiger

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Your words sum them up so beautifully :)
And your words in The Last of Us OT did a pretty good job of summing up your biases.

I get it, its last big PS3 exclusive so there are bound to be stuff like 10/10 to keep the userbase happy going into E3 and maintaining a SONY friendly posture.
Biggest games declared by a bunch of reviewers being paid by SONY and MS advertisements lol
Game scores well - faraany3k: reviewers are paid by Sony advertisements, who cares? lol

Games doesn't score well - faraany3k: you really have to question the Sony exclusive lineup. Upgrading my PC was an excellent decision.


LMAO :tv:

Also, as per your opinion on Gamespot's highly esteemed verdict, you should have no problem accepting Beyond: Two Souls as a 9/10 game. What are you complaining about then?
 
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Yaar is this game in any way like heavy rain, you know deep story impact and other stuff?
 

faraany3k

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Also, as per your opinion on Gamespot's highly esteemed verdict, you should have no problem accepting Beyond: Two Souls as a 9/10 game. What are you complaining about then?
I dont think this discussion is about me :) Yeah I said I prefer gamespot reviews done by Kevin VanOrd. That is because I find him to be a person who share same gaming interests like me. There are few places through which I make my decision to buy or pirate :)

As far as you, you have made it clear by your own words that you think META is the way a game should be judged. And hey I was not the one saying Polyphony game is overrated and a giant disappointment. So yeah I dont think I am guilty here lol

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I wonder what your definition of a top-tier shooter is. With the exception of Bioshock Infinite (which I wouldn't exactly term as a traditional FPS), I doubt there's been any shooter that has managed to cross that 90 meta threshold in the past few years. Even the mighty Halo 4 fell short of the mark.

My KZ3 playtime would probably seem infinitesimal in comparison to the hours I've spent playing COD. Two guesses as to which one I'd prefer to play over the other.

Quality, not quantity my friend.
Top tier shooter with respect to number of entries in series,how many players playing and having a decent multiplayer component. Bioshock is something else entirely. Yes HALO 4 has fallen short on XBL charts aswell.

I never support meta, I am with you buddy. This post was directed at somebody else ;)
 

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This Game could have earned more rating if the story is to be depicted in an order..............Even then its worth to play for every PS3 owner.
 

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The fuck went wrong?! Heavy Rain was great.. =\

Well atleast everyone's fav. Gamespot liked it! :tv:
 

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Yeah I said I prefer gamespot reviews done by Kevin VanOrd. That is because I find him to be a person who share same gaming interests like me.
Yes, I'm sure you and him share many interests that go beyond even gaming. lol

As far as you, you have made it clear by your own words that you think META is the way a game should be judged. And hey I was not the one saying Polyphony game is overrated and a giant disappointment. So yeah I dont think I am guilty here lol
Yeah, I do turn to Metacritic before deciding whether I should get a game. As for GT5, it was only a disappointment compared to the expectations people had from it. Regardless of that, it's still a great game with a great metascore.

Top tier shooter with respect to number of entries in series,how many players playing and having a decent multiplayer component.
How did you determine that KZ3 doesn't have a decent multiplayer component?
 
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Radical

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hmm..no wonder yoshida slept during cage's presentation @tgs this year lol
these games are all about story, if they eff'd that up then the low critical reception ain't surprising.
 

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To those who are playing it: How is the story?

From what I hear, the main problem with the game is the gameplay. The story's chronology seems to be confusing, but I don't think I'll have a problem with that.
[MENTION=6946]amaga[/MENTION]: How is the Beyond Touch app?
 

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Everyone praised the demo here on PG, so I am not sure how gameplay is the problem here.
 

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Everyone praised the demo here on PG, so I am not sure how gameplay is the problem here.
I guess some of them just didn't voice their opinions or were otherwise occupied.

The gameplay (or lack thereof) was the main problem in the demo. First off, the introduction of slo-mo transitions as a replacement for QTEs. Terrible idea. Imagine this, you're in the midst of a fast-paced action scene and the game goes into slow motion every time you need to make a decision. It's insulting as a gamer to have to play through some of these segments. Even playing with Aiden, the other soul, is a shallow experience. You're supposed to be this ethereal entity that can pass through walls and bend the laws of physics but you don't have any real freedom do you? Only certain walls can be passed through, only certain individuals can be interacted with.

An excerpt from the IGN review

But never before have I felt like such a passive participant in a video game, my choices and actions merely icing on a dense, multi-layered cake.
I'm still interested in finding out how the story plays out just so as long as I don't have to physically play it myself.
 

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There were actually ps3 fanboys who were making this game a serious GOTY contender. Wow!!

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Radical

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Why fix something that ain't broke, David..seriously!! I hope he learns from experimenting too much like this. I mean look at the walking dead, doesn't get any simpler than that.

Work on the presentation & story & keep it simple on the PS4. Goodluck QD!
 
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