[OT] .::The Official Mega PTCL Thread::. -- New lines, same old BS

Thekool1s

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Quick question, What are your MRU values guys? Mine is at 1480 but my AP says the default should be set to 1500 on MTU. I read about it online and found out that they are basically the same thing. What is the PTCL's default MRU value? Also can it effect routing and the ping because i tried messing around with the value to 1500, My ping kinda increased dont know if it was due to buffer bloat or me changing the MRU value...
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murtaza12

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Quick question, What are your MRU values guys? Mine is at 1480 but my AP says the default should be set to 1500 on MTU. I read about it online and found out that they are basically the same thing. What is the PTCL's default MRU value? Also can it effect routing and the ping because i tried messing around with the value to 1500, My ping kinda increased dont know if it was due to buffer bloat or me changing the MRU value...
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You can try 1492 because it basically means 1500 because 1492 + 8 bytes for PPPoE overhead.

If you face issues like packet loss you should drop down back to 1480.

APs default to 1500 because they don't do any routing.
 
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MHassanShabbir

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AoA Guys. I am having a serious issue with my PTCL DSL since the last couple of months. I am having a 6MB connection with smart tv (the smart tv device remains off most of the time). I play DOTA 2 online and get frequent disconnections. The ping remains ok for a few mins, then all of a sudden game disconnects, when i check the modem, it shows connected but there is no browsing for at least 1 to two minutes or until i restart the modem. Connection gets stable after a couple of minutes. This happens every 10 to 15 minutes. The line parameters seem ok to me. I read from this forum to change modulation to G.dmt but when i uncheck other modulation options, the internet does not connect
. when i check ASDL2 and ADSL+ along with G.dmt, then the modem connects to the internet.

SNR Margin downstream 17.4, upstream 6.5
Attenuation downstream 15.5, upstream 9.8
Screenshot of modem parameters in posted here :
https://ibb.co/ftZs36x

I will be grateful if anyone can advise how to resolve this issue
 
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murtaza12

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AoA Guys. I am having a serious issue with my PTCL DSL since the last couple of months. I am having a 6MB connection with smart tv (the smart tv device remains off most of the time). I play DOTA 2 online and get frequent disconnections. The ping remains ok for a few mins, then all of a sudden game disconnects, when i check the modem, it shows connected but there is no browsing for at least 1 to two minutes or until i restart the modem. Connection gets stable after a couple of minutes. This happens every 10 to 15 minutes. The line parameters seem ok to me. I read from this forum to change modulation to G.dmt but when i uncheck other modulation options, the internet does not connect
. when i check ASDL2 and ADSL+ along with G.dmt, then the modem connects to the internet.

SNR Margin downstream 17.4, upstream 6.5
Attenuation downstream 15.5, upstream 9.8
Screenshot of modem parameters in posted here :
https://ibb.co/ftZs36x

I will be grateful if anyone can advise how to resolve this issue
Line stats seem normal. Although the screenshot is not very detailed.

The full line stats page includes a lot more data, does your modem not have that?

How long has the issue been happening for?
 

manobilla

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You can try 1492 because it basically means 1500 because 1492 + 8 bytes for PPPoE overhead.

If you face issues like packet loss you should drop down back to 1480.

APs default to 1500 because they don't do any routing.
before I was using default 1400 set in PTCL modem but now i am using 1492 in openwrt and it is working fine
 

shaheerk

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before I was using default 1400 set in PTCL modem but now i am using 1492 in openwrt and it is working fine
MTU affects download speeds, and not really the ping (and definitely never the bad routing).

It was more of an issue in the dialup days to ensure better flow of the packets, but doesn't significantly improve throughput on high speed connections (such as ADSL or above).

Needless to say fiber users don't need to fiddle with this

Some more here: https://www.speedguide.net/forums/showthread.php?199883-Best-DSL-MTU-not-1500

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MHassanShabbir

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Line stats seem normal. Although the screenshot is not very detailed.

The full line stats page includes a lot more data, does your modem not have that?

How long has the issue been happening for?
These are the complete stats of DSL

Statistics -- ADSL

Mode:ADSL_2plus
Traffic Type:ATM
Status:Up
Link Power State:L0
DownstreamUpstream
Line Coding(Trellis):OnOn
SNR Margin (dB):7.710.9
Attenuation (dB):15.59.9
Output Power (0.1 dBm):0126
Attainable Rate (Kbps):202761016
Path 0
DownstreamUpstream
Rate (Kbps):112561024
MSGc (# of bytes in overhead channel message):10410
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame):22146
M (# of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame):11
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes):91
R (# of check bytes in FEC Data Frame):160
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length):0.06504.5581
L (# of bits in PMD Data Frame):4795258
D (interleaver depth):3521
Delay (msec):61
INP (DMT symbol):4.500.00
Super Frames:200962175453
Super Frame Errors:3827220
RS Words:1698957952425061
RS Correctable Errors:14093310
RS Uncorrectable Errors:14057760
HEC Errors:73265767
OCD Errors:2880
LCD Errors:2880
Total Cells:726118616653578
Data Cells:31403664798
Bit Errors:034444
Total ES:26980
Total SES:761
Total UAS:168168

I have noticed that the SNR margin sometimes varies with time and is not permanently stable for long intervals. I am facing this issue since the last three months or so. Last night i disabled all the modulation schemes except ADSL2 and ADSL2+ and now the disconnection interval has reduced. Now getting the disconnection after about 20 mins instead of the usual 10 to 15 mins. Another issue is that sometimes the Laptop or mobile loses the wifi connection, i can see the SSID in wifi connections but it does not connect until i resart the modem.
 
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murtaza12

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These are the complete stats of DSL

Statistics -- ADSL

Mode:ADSL_2plus
Traffic Type:ATM
Status:Up
Link Power State:L0
DownstreamUpstream
Line Coding(Trellis):OnOn
SNR Margin (dB):7.710.9
Attenuation (dB):15.59.9
Output Power (0.1 dBm):0126
Attainable Rate (Kbps):202761016
Path 0
DownstreamUpstream
Rate (Kbps):112561024
MSGc (# of bytes in overhead channel message):10410
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame):22146
M (# of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame):11
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes):91
R (# of check bytes in FEC Data Frame):160
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length):0.06504.5581
L (# of bits in PMD Data Frame):4795258
D (interleaver depth):3521
Delay (msec):61
INP (DMT symbol):4.500.00
Super Frames:200962175453
Super Frame Errors:3827220
RS Words:1698957952425061
RS Correctable Errors:14093310
RS Uncorrectable Errors:14057760
HEC Errors:73265767
OCD Errors:2880
LCD Errors:2880
Total Cells:726118616653578
Data Cells:31403664798
Bit Errors:034444
Total ES:26980
Total SES:761
Total UAS:168168

I have noticed that the SNR margin sometimes varies with time and is not permanently stable for long intervals. I am facing this issue since the last three months or so. Last night i disabled all the modulation schemes except ADSL2 and ADSL2+ and now the disconnection interval has reduced. Now getting the disconnection after about 20 mins instead of the usual 10 to 15 mins. Another issue is that sometimes the Laptop or mobile loses the wifi connection, i can see the SSID in wifi connections but it does not connect until i resart the modem.
Your SNR is very different from the earlier stats that you posted. Your line also has a very high amount of errors. Check if your landline phone is noisy or not.

Complaint about fluctuating line stats and frequent disconnections. If you can, get in touch with your lineman as well.

You probably need to replace the cable from the DP to your modem.
 

NafilSoofi

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Dec 9, 2012
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Mode:ADSL_2plus
Traffic Type:ATM
Status:Up
Link Power State:L0
DownstreamUpstream
Line Coding(Trellis):OnOn
SNR Margin (0.1 dB):5094
Attenuation (0.1 dB):330229
Output Power (0.1 dBm):190121
Attainable Rate (Kbps):173961270
Path 0 Path 1
DownstreamUpstreamDownstreamUpstream
Rate (Kbps):12725109400
MSGc (# of bytes in overhead channel message):881800
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame):339400
M (# of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame):1100
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes):8100
R (# of check bytes in FEC Data Frame):141600
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length):0.08512.74920.00000.0000
L (# of bits in PMD Data Frame):450832300
D (interleaver depth):5111600
Delay (msec):111100
INP (DMT symbol):6.003.000.000.00
Super Frames:28635427721100
Super Frame Errors:5500
RS Words:215337146666988100
RS Correctable Errors:6857364812300
RS Uncorrectable Errors:340000
HEC Errors:692300
OCD Errors:1000
LCD Errors:1000
Total Cells:1376337391182626200
Data Cells:4512573721405300
Bit Errors:4359109600
Total ES:31
Total SES:00
Total UAS:6161

Guys can I opt for fast path? I've noticed my SNR margin for downstream used to be around the 70's but it has gone down recently. As you can see there's a high amount of errors but my line isn't noisy.
 

umair842016

Newbie
Aug 10, 2018
19
0
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Islamabad
Mode:ADSL_2plus
Traffic Type:ATM
Status:Up
Link Power State:L0
DownstreamUpstream
Line Coding(Trellis):OnOn
SNR Margin (0.1 dB):5094
Attenuation (0.1 dB):330229
Output Power (0.1 dBm):190121
Attainable Rate (Kbps):173961270
Path 0Path 1
DownstreamUpstreamDownstreamUpstream
Rate (Kbps):12725109400
MSGc (# of bytes in overhead channel message):881800
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame):339400
M (# of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame):1100
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes):8100
R (# of check bytes in FEC Data Frame):141600
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length):0.08512.74920.00000.0000
L (# of bits in PMD Data Frame):450832300
D (interleaver depth):5111600
Delay (msec):111100
INP (DMT symbol):6.003.000.000.00
Super Frames:28635427721100
Super Frame Errors:5500
RS Words:215337146666988100
RS Correctable Errors:6857364812300
RS Uncorrectable Errors:340000
HEC Errors:692300
OCD Errors:1000
LCD Errors:1000
Total Cells:1376337391182626200
Data Cells:4512573721405300
Bit Errors:4359109600
Total ES:31
Total SES:00
Total UAS:6161

Guys can I opt for fast path? I've noticed my SNR margin for downstream used to be around the 70's but it has gone down recently. As you can see there's a high amount of errors but my line isn't noisy.
No you cannot because your line parameters are very weak.
SNR is very low while attenuation is very high.......
 

Ammar Ahmed

New member
Mar 26, 2020
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0
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Mode:VDSL2
Traffic Type:PTM
Status:Up
Link Power State:L0
DownstreamUpstream
Line Coding(Trellis):OnOn
SNR Margin (0.1 dB):303300
Attenuation (0.1 dB):108122
Output Power (0.1 dBm):131-11
Attainable Rate (Kbps):8395456146
Path 0 Path 1
DownstreamUpstreamDownstreamUpstream
Rate (Kbps):17354867800
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame):313100
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword):1100
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame):646400
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword):10200
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans):0.05860.11710.00000.0000
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol):5736232200
D (interleaver depth):1115900
I (interleaver block size in bytes):423400
N (RS codeword size):423400
Delay (msec):16000
INP (DMT symbol):7.500.000.000.00
OH Frames:85644636327800
OH Frame Errors:0000
RS Words:328808739189321700
RS Correctable Errors:5000
RS Uncorrectable Errors:0000
HEC Errors:0000
OCD Errors:0000
LCD Errors:0000
Total Cells:161354593000
Data Cells:702466000
Bit Errors:0000
Total ES:00
Total SES:00
Total UAS:2222

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whats wrong with my internet , i used to get 15 mb down speed before lockdown and now i rarely get 4,5 mb , kindly guide me after seeing my parameters , ptcl is not helping
 

Ammar Ahmed

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pings and jitters are constantly increasing day by day , its getting difficult doing business with this sort of service , any suggestions?
 

Thekool1s

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Has anybody else pings have doubled to NA (servers), Cloudping is pinging NA East servers with around 320 ping and west one with 380...
 

Thekool1s

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[MENTION=142224]manobilla[/MENTION] I figured it out, it is my isp... Also Rockstar social launcher isn't working, is it blocked by the PTA or something? Turning on VPN fixes it.
 
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