[OT] .::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::.
- Thread starter StrikerX
- Start date
I understood that. I was referring to your device. If you have weak signals you can install your own antenna for your mbb device. You don't have to wait for them to improve signals in your area.
No matter what. Pakistan never gona get 5G before 2022-23 at least.
Sent from my SM-A505F using Tapatalk
I think Pakistan will get 5g by next year and zong will be first to introduce it they might introduce MBB 5g compatible devices.Your are going way too far with launching date of 5g in Pakistan.
Keep dreaming bro. In reality we are still waiting VoLTE after 5 years of getting 4G.
Sent from my SM-A505F using Tapatalk
Latest samsung ota updates for its latest pakistani models still not have any volte settings for pakistan networks.. i wonder if we will ever see it even or is it was just an absurd joke..
Sent from my S7 Edge using Tapatalk
Last edited:
There is no obligation set by PTA against VoLTE in 4G license auction. Means rolling out VoLTE is at the discretion of operator. They might never launch VoLTE if they do not want to. You and Govt can't do anything about it. So stay chill and enjoy pathetic 2G/3G voice and longer connection time.
Sent from my SM-A505F using Tapatalk
both government and private companies have no urge to upgrade anything
Hello, i'm little bit offtopic but i thought you guys can help.
So, I bought telenor data sim on 11 june and subscribed to 50GB package for 1500. Next day, my internet suddenly stopped and 4g icon was gone i called helpline they said it will be solved and it get solved about few hours later(i also checked sim status on telenor app and it said sim was not registered
).
ANyway my problem got solved but next i know my package suddenly vanished. I again called helpline they said it will be solved in 3 days and i didnt and till today the problem is same . The helpline guys always repeat the same line it is technical department issue it will be solved in 10 days. Today was my 3rd deadline and they again gave me 10 july date.
Totally frustrated by telenor customer care right now as i out of internet for 15 straight days and forced to use my prepaid sim package.
If anyone can reach out or have any contact to telenor please resolve my issue. i will be grateful. Thankyou
(PM for Number details)
So, I bought telenor data sim on 11 june and subscribed to 50GB package for 1500. Next day, my internet suddenly stopped and 4g icon was gone i called helpline they said it will be solved and it get solved about few hours later(i also checked sim status on telenor app and it said sim was not registered
).ANyway my problem got solved but next i know my package suddenly vanished. I again called helpline they said it will be solved in 3 days and i didnt and till today the problem is same . The helpline guys always repeat the same line it is technical department issue it will be solved in 10 days. Today was my 3rd deadline and they again gave me 10 july date.
Totally frustrated by telenor customer care right now as i out of internet for 15 straight days and forced to use my prepaid sim package.
If anyone can reach out or have any contact to telenor please resolve my issue. i will be grateful. Thankyou
(PM for Number details)
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Why did you opt for Telenor in first place? Its all your fault. They are pathetic as hell. Forget your sim and package and go for Zong or Jazz.Hello, i'm little bit offtopic but i thought you guys can help.
So, I bought telenor data sim on 11 june and subscribed to 50GB package for 1500. Next day, my internet suddenly stopped and 4g icon was gone i called helpline they said it will be solved and it get solved about few hours later(i also checked sim status on telenor app and it said sim was not registered
ANyway my problem got solved but next i know my package suddenly vanished. I again called helpline they said it will be solved in 3 days and i didnt and till today the problem is same . The helpline guys always repeat the same line it is technical department issue it will be solved in 10 days. Today was my 3rd deadline and they again gave me 10 july date.
Totally frustrated by telenor customer care right now as i out of internet for 15 straight days and forced to use my prepaid sim package.
If anyone can reach out or have any contact to telenor please resolve my issue. i will be grateful. Thankyou
(PM for Number details)
Spoiler: showSpoiler: show
Sent from my SM-A505F using Tapatalk
Yeah im just regretting this but i will continue to complain at customer service till i get my package or amount back.
Yes i emailed them twice but no luck they also repeat the same line. As Zafar Abbas said it was my mistake. I knew Telenor was pathetic but not this level of pathetic.
PTA released stats for the month of May.
Jazz total subscribers are nearing 60 million, will probably reach that target by end of August. They really need to do something about VoLTE or at least rolling out CA outside of Islamabad.
The other interesting thing was Telenor's stats.
Total subscribers (April): 44,838,381
Total subscribers (May): 44,570,096
Even Ufone's total grew by 100k, but Telenor is actually losing subs? Genuinely surprising to hear.
All local telcos are shit in many different ways, but how bad are these guys that they actually lost over 200k subscribers?
Jazz total subscribers are nearing 60 million, will probably reach that target by end of August. They really need to do something about VoLTE or at least rolling out CA outside of Islamabad.
The other interesting thing was Telenor's stats.
Total subscribers (April): 44,838,381
Total subscribers (May): 44,570,096
Even Ufone's total grew by 100k, but Telenor is actually losing subs? Genuinely surprising to hear.
All local telcos are shit in many different ways, but how bad are these guys that they actually lost over 200k subscribers?
Telenor and Zong should merge their businesses. Together they will have lot of customers to get revenue and huge amount of spectrum to launch next level 4G services.
Sent from my SM-A505F using Tapatalk
That would really kill competition.
Telenor and Ufone should merge instead. Ufone is worthless, and nobody will even notice if they are gone since their packages and service are both complete and utter garbage anyway.
Telenor is shit so is the ufone. Zong and Ufone could be a better option.
Sent from my SM-A505F using Tapatalk
(long post warning)
Telenor and Zong merging would be anti-competitive.
Telenor and Ufone? Makes sense. It made sense before to them (when Warid or Ufone were under scrutiny) and it still makes sense. Yes, you'd have one less operator (and thus, greater chances of market collusion), but
Telenor sub + Ufone Sub (for May):
44,570,096 + 22,629,644
= 67,199,740. That's ~ 8 M more than the merged Mobilink + Warid.
Combined spectrum: let's see.
850 Mhz: 10 + 0 = 10 Mhz (Jazz: 0)
900 Mhz: 4.8 + 7.6 = 12.4 Mhz (Jazz: the same)
1800 Mhz: 8.8 + 6 = 14.8 Mhz (these two are conjoined) (Jazz: 18.8 + 6 = 24.8 Mhz)
2100 Mhz: 5 + 5 = 10 Mhz (also conjoined) (Jazz: the same).
For 2G, let's see the current division of frequencies:
Telenor: 900Mhz (4.8Mhz) + 1800Mhz (5Mhz - out of 8.8Mhz) = 9.8Mhz.
Ufone: 900Mhz (2.6Mhz) + 1800 Mhz (3Mhz out of 6 Mhz) = 5.6Mhz.
Jazz: irrelevant right now, but for pedantic reason: 900Mhz (1.8Mhz excluding 4G + 2.6 Mhz, excluding 3G) + 1800Mhz (6Mhz +3.8Mhz) = 13.2Mhz. What a waste.
For 3G, let's see the division of frequencies:
Telenor: 850Mhz (5 Mhz) + 2100Mhz (5 Mhz) = 10 Mhz.
Ufone: 9000Mhz (5 Mhz) + 2100Mhz (5 Mhz) = 10 Mhz.
Jazz: 2100 Mhz (10 Mhz) + 900 Mhz (5 Mhz) = 15 Mhz.
Since Telenor's and Ufone's 3G blocks are conjoined, they can easily get 10Mhz and DC-HSPA+. in 2100Mhz, and one operator can use their 900Mhz block or 850Mhz block to free up the spectrum, leaving another 5Mhz spare - so 15Mhz can be divided, bringing them at par with Jazz. Okay, so it's decided 5Mhz is spare - either in the 900Mhz block or the 850Mhz block, but hoping they make the right decision, they'll use Ufone's vast 900Mhz coverage and free up 850Mhz for full 10Mhz (fat chance of that logic happening...)
For 4G, let's see the current division of frequencies:
Telenor: 850Mhz (5Mhz) + 1800Mhz (3 Mhz) = 8 Mhz
Ufone: 1800Mhz (3Mhz, I believe) (so 3Mhz is left for GSM in 1800 and 2.6 Mhz in 900Mhz)
Jazz: 900 Mhz (3Mhz) + 15 Mhz (1800 Mhz) = 18 Mhz (in Islamabad only, since it's not a part of Pakistan... otherwise, no 900Mhz 4G. But for simplicity sake, let's assume 18 Mhz.
Because Telenor and Ufone have conjoined blocks in 1800Mhz, they can easily allocate 10Mhz (out of 14.8Mhz) and remember how 10Mhz freed up from 850Mhz (because we're assuming their 3G frequencies don't go below 900Mhz)? So 10 + 10 Mhz CA = boom! 20Mhz 4G.
How does that leave the two merged entities with 2G? Ufone and Telenor have a combined holding of 14.8Mhz in 1800Mhz --> so 4.8Mhz (1800Mhz, after using 10Mhz for 4G) + 4.8Mhz (Telenor 900Mhz, because 3G requires 5Mhz minimum - and Telenor doesn't have that much spectrum in 900Mhz) + 2.6Mhz (Ufone 900Mhz) = 12.2Mhz (Jazz: 14.2Mhz).
So. Ufone's got pretty good urban coverage. Telenor has good rural coverage. Both, combined, can match Mobilink's spectrum holdings, coverage and portfolio. All operators have a similar amount of spectrum (or so) for 4G. 2G spectrum is the same. 3G spectrum is the same. The only thing would be that Zong would remain on the third place (like it currently is), Jazz would become second, and the combined entity would become the largest, giving it a headstart of 7 M customers. And people don't want to leave Ufone because of their supercard. People in the suburbs won't leave Telenor because of Easypaisa and network coverage.
For me, it's a no-brainer. As for competition: the new entity + Jazz would be competing with each other, whilst Zong would still have a considerable lead in data customers which might be forced to lower its data prices (but then, nobody has their level of 4G coverage). Jazz has very fast aggregate 4G speeds. Telenor would be forced to up their game.
Would it stifle competition? Operators have been gradually increasing prices anyway owing to the USD/PKR parity, Jazz has (had) outsourced their 4G network management to Ericsson (not sure about 3G), Telenor is doing it with Nokia... so... the experienced companies are trying to do something in varying quantities... which means prices will increase anyway. But - operators will now incentivize customers to stick to their networks (such as Jazz with their thousands of on-net minutes and meager off-net minutes, or Telenor with more off-net minutes). And since Jazz is the most expensive of the lot, they might be required to rationalize their prices. And it would probably make the operators fix their data services quality though.
I say go for it! Hey PTA, Telenor or Ufone, if you need an analyst, please hire me. I'll be willing to help as long as I get a decent income.
Last edited:
[MENTION=63376]shaheerk[/MENTION]
Actually Jazz spectrum in ISB for Band 3 + Band 8 4G+ is now 23 MHz instead of 18.
Ufone + Telenor combined spectrum:
850 MHz = 10 MHz
900 MHz = 12.4 MHz
1800 MHz = 14.8 MHz
2100 MHz = 10 MHz
I don't care enough about 2G/3G, they should be moving on from that anyway.
For LTE there are two options:
1) B3 (10 MHz) + B1 (10 MHz) + B8 (5 MHz) - 3xCA
2) B1 (10 MHz) + B3 (10 MHz) + B5 (10 MHz) - 3xCA
If we go option 1, then 3G will be running solely on 850 MHz, which I don't think is a good idea since there aren't too many phones out there that support 850 MHz 3G.
If we go option 2, then 3G will be running on 900 MHz only. This seems like the best way to go if they focus only and only on LTE expansion and obviously have VoLTE enabled.
If they have a total of 67 million customers, they'll really need 3xCA and VoLTE, at least in the big cities.
Actually Jazz spectrum in ISB for Band 3 + Band 8 4G+ is now 23 MHz instead of 18.
Ufone + Telenor combined spectrum:
850 MHz = 10 MHz
900 MHz = 12.4 MHz
1800 MHz = 14.8 MHz
2100 MHz = 10 MHz
I don't care enough about 2G/3G, they should be moving on from that anyway.
For LTE there are two options:
1) B3 (10 MHz) + B1 (10 MHz) + B8 (5 MHz) - 3xCA
2) B1 (10 MHz) + B3 (10 MHz) + B5 (10 MHz) - 3xCA
If we go option 1, then 3G will be running solely on 850 MHz, which I don't think is a good idea since there aren't too many phones out there that support 850 MHz 3G.
If we go option 2, then 3G will be running on 900 MHz only. This seems like the best way to go if they focus only and only on LTE expansion and obviously have VoLTE enabled.
If they have a total of 67 million customers, they'll really need 3xCA and VoLTE, at least in the big cities.
We have disabled traderscore and are working on a fix. There was a bug with the plugin | Click for Discord
- No one is chatting at the moment.
-
Necrokiller:
Phil should be held responsible for this shitfest too, just like Sarah, but it's highly likely that these decisions are coming from Satya. And this isn't even the end of it. More closures are coming. -
SolitarySoldier:
if we are moving towards more and more popular trash across platforms that make billions for companies, I'm happy with all the barriers and exclusivity because at least that brings some pressure to create good stuff. -
SolitarySoldier:
Phil keeps talking about breaking barriers to gaming, making it accessible on all platforms yada yada, while killing competition and creativity at the same time. the fact that i actually believed him for a second lol
-
SolitarySoldier:
"These changes are not a reflection of the creativity and skill of the talented individuals at these teams or the risks they took to try new things" ... seems to me that's exactly what it is
-
XPremiuM:
Microsoft deserves all the hate they can get. Seriously i can't explain how much i want to curse them out. -
XPremiuM:
They could've sold the studios instead of closing them, but the nazi bastards just didn't want competition down the road.
-
XPremiuM:
What's the f*** is wrong with them? I mean really? Have they completely lost it? F***ing retards.
-
XPremiuM:
So i just found out that f***ing s***bag Microsoft shut down Arkane Studio (makers of the brilliant Dishonored series) and Tango Gameworks (makers of the iconic The Evil Within series), among some other studios. I just want to say a giant F*** Y**! to Microsoft. THEY'VE F***ED UP BIG TIME this time.
-
XPremiuM:
Started Dead Island 2, and i find it pretty lame. The story is shit. The characters are either cringe or bland (all 6 of them), The gameplay isn't fun. Even the goddamn zombies don't behave like proper zombies. They're all fast & intelligent unlike how zombies are supposed to be like. Any fan of "zombie" genre cannot possibly like this shitfest of a game. Dying Light 2 was million times better than this shit.
-
faraany3k:
tbh gaming industry as a whole is failing much like tech industry. They have buckled down too much to Corporate suites then relying on passionate and innovative people. A corporate only believes in financial growth and shareholders.Necrokiller said:
