[Reddit] Get your popcorn ready: NV GPUs do not support DX12 Asynchronous Compute/Shaders. Official sources included.

[UmerF]

NVIDIA Async Performance against Synchronous

Nice, where did you get that from? Source please.

Also, they're comparing 280 with 980 Ti, not a solid comparison. Should be compared with Fury X even though Fury X was supposed to be Titan X killer but it's on 980 Ti level.

 

[Pleasant]

Nice, where did you get that from? Source please.

Also, they're comparing 280 with 980 Ti, not a solid comparison. Should be compared with Fury X even though Fury X was supposed to be Titan X killer but it's on 980 Ti level.

Might be from here
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3j5e9b/analysis_async_compute_is_it_true_nvidia_cant_do/

Furthermore, the new beta of GameworksVR has real results showing nearly halved render times in SLI, even on the old GTX 680. 980's are reportedly lag-free now.

 

[UmerF]

Might be from here
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3j5e9b/analysis_async_compute_is_it_true_nvidia_cant_do/

Furthermore, the new beta of GameworksVR has real results showing nearly halved render times in SLI, even on the old GTX 680. 980's are reportedly lag-free now.

That's good because I'm going to SLI 980 Ti sooner or later, so far it's of no issue so I can hold it until it really pushes my buttons. Can you link me to the GameworksVR report, please?
I don't see any link to those images on that article btw? it's not in the original post at least.

 

[Pleasant]

That's good because I'm going to SLI 980 Ti sooner or later, so far it's of no issue so I can hold it until it really pushes my buttons. Can you link me to the GameworksVR report, please?
I don't see any link to those images on that article btw? it's not in the original post at least.

Its written on the first post you can paste in FIND option of your browser not sure from where is concluded the results i guess we have to wait and see whats happening till the end of this whole fiasco

 

[nafu]

Nice, where did you get that from? Source please.

Also, they're comparing 280 with 980 Ti, not a solid comparison. Should be compared with Fury X even though Fury X was supposed to be Titan X killer but it's on 980 Ti level.

YES not a perfect Comparison.

Source

Anyhow, NVIDIA Architecture seems quite capable of being consume Dx12 in real time. as they already build it in that way, Anything remaininig will cover through drivers updates As NVIDIA is too good in quick Response to the issue or lacking.

 

[UmerF]

Its written on the first post you can paste in FIND option of your browser not sure from where is concluded the results i guess we have to wait and see whats happening till the end of this whole fiasco

Lol, totally my bad .. I thought you were referring to some other article as I didn't read the whole reddit post.

YES not a perfect Comparison.

Source

Anyhow, NVIDIA Architecture seems quite capable of being consume Dx12 in real time. as they already build it in that way, Anything remaininig will cover through drivers updates As NVIDIA is too good in quick Response to the issue or lacking.

Exactly. Even with all it's flaws, NVIDIA is the one leading the industry which is a shame that's happening because lately they've been pissing off gamers every chance they get. However, we should wait until real world scenarios are out to see which cards will be performing or not, can sit around and yap yap all day AMD Master Race or NVIDIA Master Race but the fact that we're still far away from DX12 games makes it all silly anyway. I'm pretty sure one way or another, NVIDIA will fix their shit with this DX12 hopefully and even if they don't it's not gonna affect me personally anyway lol.

Btw, nice share .. thanks for the source

 

[Pleasant]

Lol, totally my bad .. I thought you were referring to some other article as I didn't read the whole reddit post.



Exactly. Even with all it's flaws, NVIDIA is the one leading the industry which is a shame that's happening because lately they've been pissing off gamers every chance they get. However, we should wait until real world scenarios are out to see which cards will be performing or not, can sit around and yap yap all day AMD Master Race or NVIDIA Master Race but the fact that we're still far away from DX12 games makes it all silly anyway. I'm pretty sure one way or another, NVIDIA will fix their shit with this DX12 hopefully and even if they don't it's not gonna affect me personally anyway lol.

Btw, nice share .. thanks for the source

it is same as What AMD YAPPED YAPPED long ago about Direct x 10.1 if you remember

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YES not a perfect Comparison.

Source

Anyhow, NVIDIA Architecture seems quite capable of being consume Dx12 in real time. as they already build it in that way, Anything remaininig will cover through drivers updates As NVIDIA is too good in quick Response to the issue or lacking.

i didnt understand the graph can you elobrate whats happening there

 

[UmerF]

it is same as What AMD YAPPED YAPPED long ago about Direct x 10.1 if you remember

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i didnt understand the graph can you elobrate whats happening there

It's good marketing for both of the companies, simple as that.

 

[sherrypizza]

Lets be real, if Nvidia/Oxide are claiming that Nvidia is going to fix this in driver, does it really matter if it's software or hardware? I highly doubt Nvidia is going to release a driver that either cripples performance, or side-grades it.
Again people keep talking about the implementation, they talk about the method being used, etc, but they completely ignore the final result, which is what everyone should care about -- the performance. In AOS @ 1080P through 4K the difference in performance between a 980Ti and Fury X is negligible. They essentially perform the same. And the game is literally designed to be a draw call benchmark.
What annoys me is that aside from PC Perspective's podcast and Hilbert (through multiple posts) no one is talking about this. Everyone is just circle jerking eachother about a bunch of irrelevant bull****. 3 Days ago there was a post on reddit that was like "CONFIRMED, NVIDIA DOESN'T SUPPORT DX12 ASYNC SHADERS" now today, there is "OXIDE CONFIRMS NVIDIA SUPPORTS ASYNC".
Tech review sites really need to step up too -- I get that some don't focus on the low end, technical stuff -- but the fact that I have to go to some forum and read through amd/nvidia fanboy nonsense for 70 pages in order to even understand what is happening, is bull****. I really miss Anand from Anandtech. The guy would have had a 10 page breakdown of the entire architecture, what's occurring, why it's occurring, with actual developer commenting on it. But since Ryan or whoever sold it to Tom's hardware, that site has literally turned into a giant ****ing billboard of advertising garbage. There is more ad space then article space on that site now. Anyway I'm ranting, but it's frustrating. People keep posting their uneducated, uninformed opinions based on what some armchair googling nerd thinks is happening.
I personally think that the ASYNC shader "issue" was a PR idea created by AMD to sell their lower end cards at a higher price than before and an effort to cut into Nvidia's bread and butter. I give them credit, it sure is getting play.
We'll see how it turns out.

 

[StrikerX]

i didnt understand the graph can you elobrate whats happening there

Basically the graph is showing latency (i.e. delay) between asynchronous execution and serial execution, lower the latency the better.


Now we know GCN based cards are performing really well in async tasks and the graph shows exactly that and we also know current Nvidia cards are bad at async (because of driver/architecture whatever) and the graph is showing the latency is higher on the Nvidia card. If and when Nvidia releases a driver to 'fix' the problem, the same test should show better results.

 

[nafu]

^ exactly.

If we read the graph, Yellow line indicates the ideal Asyn on which AMd is pretty parallel on it. while NVIDIA is way higher means more delay in executing tasks. While AMD Shwoing Perfect Execution.

NVIDIA's Marketing deptt needs to work on anticipated issue

 

[nafu]

[video=youtube;Dnn0rgDaSro]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=155&v=Dnn0rgDaSro[/video]

Yet Another Interview

 

[Yasir Nadeem]

Wtf I just read it is it true ?
http://wccftech.com/dx12-nvidia-amd-asynchronous-multigpu/

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[UmerF]

Wtf I just read it is it true ?
http://wccftech.com/dx12-nvidia-amd-asynchronous-multigpu/

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I read that earlier this year and was excited but so far no news, I didn't read at any other source either.


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[nafu]

AMD has been featured in so many news articles recently with alleged buyouts from tech companies such as Microsoft, Samsung and Intel. However, the bigger news, which spawned more controversy, were comments made by an AMD executive on a couple of subreddits: /r/advancedmicrodevices and /r/pcmasterrace.


Robert Hallock, head of global technical marketing at AMD, was instigated by a Redditor from /r/advancedmicrodevices to give his thoughts on an Oxide employee's post in a tech-oriented forum.


The said employee stated that the AMD Radeon R9 290X is outperforming Nvidia's current GeForce 900 series flagship, the GTX 980 Ti, on DirectX 12-based tests made with Ashes of the Singularity, a game that Oxide is developing. Note that DX12 exposes Async compute that DX11 does not and thus, gave the 290X better performance over the 980 Ti.

Most of the Dx 12 Games will use AMD Hardware

 

[sherrypizza]

Previously when DX12 tests of Ashes of the Singularity shows that, AMD’s Radeon R9 Fury X smashes the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti, but with the latest drivers NVIDIA has changed the tied.
In some benchmarks from Computerbase, the GTX 980 Ti with the latest GeForce 358.50 drivers beat (just by 0.4FPS) the Radeon R9 Fury X with its new Catalyst 15.10 drivers. If we compare the older 355.60 drivers to the new 358.50 drivers, the GTX 980 Ti secures itself a pretty decent 11% increase in performance. Comparing the Catalyst 15.8 and 15.10 drivers, the R9 Fury X jumps by 6%. All of the other cards from both AMD and NVIDIA see performance increases with the latest drivers installed, too. @UmerF

 

[UmerF]

Previously when DX12 tests of Ashes of the Singularity shows that, AMD’s Radeon R9 Fury X smashes the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti, but with the latest drivers NVIDIA has changed the tied.
In some benchmarks from Computerbase, the GTX 980 Ti with the latest GeForce 358.50 drivers beat (just by 0.4FPS) the Radeon R9 Fury X with its new Catalyst 15.10 drivers. If we compare the older 355.60 drivers to the new 358.50 drivers, the GTX 980 Ti secures itself a pretty decent 11% increase in performance. Comparing the Catalyst 15.8 and 15.10 drivers, the R9 Fury X jumps by 6%. All of the other cards from both AMD and NVIDIA see performance increases with the latest drivers installed, too. @UmerF

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[Dark Sith]

interesting ....emm so i would have like 24gb of vram ---ohhh yeah baby ....and cross platform has to be seen to be believed ----pair up a 980ti with a furyx and heaven baby

 

[sherrypizza]

and it's just a early access of the game. I'm sure in the final version of the game and with optimized drivers, 980Ti will remain on top.

 

[mac007]

interesting ....emm so i would have like 24gb of vram ---ohhh yeah baby ....and cross platform has to be seen to be believed ----pair up a 980ti with a furyx and heaven baby

from what i have read 980Ti will not work with Fury X.... it was just hype about DX12