Question regarding Mobo, 4k monitor and currency conversion

[M0hammad0sman]

Hi... Good day all of you. I have some questions regarding my build.

Let me share some basic things that will help you understand my condition. I am currently living in Islamabad and have around 50k to spare for PC. My mentality some time ago was to build the ultimate PC by picking the best parts one at a time but then I felt that the new technology is emerging so rapidly that by the time I complete my PC, it will already be 'not the latest'. I earn through freelancing and can make at most 20k per month for the pc.
I am basically a programmer. Not interested in games, or movies, basically not in anything other than programming but I would like to have a beautiful, somewhat powerful and reliable computer. I don't intend on making a full fledged pc in 50k (I can buy some things later). Just a reasonable one which is not too expensive but should respect the fact that I am probably going to spend half of my life in front of it

My first question is about the motherboards. I bought H81M-K in february and its north bridge has already gone faulty. I unfortunately lost the warranty slip. The shopkeeper co-operated a bit and said it would take at least two months to claim a new board. So now I have decided to buy another one and sell the one that comes with warranty. From what I have read, it seems that all the boards are more or less the same. Expensive boards are expensive due to their features and if you are not going to use those features, buying one is just a waste of money. But after getting my cheap board burned in less than 8 months, I am inclined towards thinking the other way. Motherboard is my first priority. I intend on buying it before the end of this week.

I intend on buying a 4k led for my computer and although not a fan of games, I will have to put a decent graphics card and probably will need a hdmi port too. The board should also last at least 5 years. It is really annoying wasting time on the warranty claims. I have to buy ram yet(money for rams is seperate from 50k). So I am thinking whether I should go with haswell or skylake. if I go skylake, I will have to buy a probably more expensive board and more expensive ram, I will also have to sell my current pentium g3220 but if the upgrade is worth it, I am willing to spend the money. Which motherboard do you think I should go for? haswell or skylake? which category, the cheapest, the medium or the best? Where should I buy it?

The next thing is 4k tv. I have never used a 1080p monitor but as the monitor is a thing which is going to stay, I want to go big on it. I am intending to buy a 32" screen to be able to open multiple windows, very helpful in searching and programming. Are 4k monitors available in Islamabad, or pakistan? will 4k be needed for 32 inch or 1440p will be enough from a 2ft distance? I have a good vision. I can notice pixels from 2ft on a 15.6 inch 720p screen. What is the price difference between 1440p and 4k? is the difference worth it?

Next, the money and shipping. I do freelancing but the earning comes in dollars which is hard to cash in pakistan. I have a paypal and a skrill account. Although I can transfer the money from my skrill to bank account, it costs me about 18% which i think is not worth it. Other methods i have found are transferwise and bitcoins. I have not tried them though. DO you any experience with any of these? Being a freelancer, I want to be able to recieve money from anyone in the world and pay money to anyone(amazon and newegg too) with minimal fees. What options do you think I have. Is there a way of opening US bank account if you are a non resident person with no ssn? I have heard it is possible. I think being able to ship from amazon and newegg will help me a lot in having quality and cheap products. THey have excellent support too. The problem is shipping. I think the two best options would be amaga and shipito. But in both, the payment methods make it difficult for me. What are your recommendations on that.

Thanks for your time. [MENTION=15943]UmerF[/MENTION] your advice will be valuable.

 

[UmerF]

First of all, 20k per month just dedicated to PC is decent amount if you're planning to build it slowly every month with your pay check so you can go with high end stuff and be done with everything within few months but since you're not targeting it to be a gaming PC you can save up some of the money and go cheap but like you said you don't want to go cheap anymore after your motherboard fiasco then you will still end up buying high end equipment even if it's professional grade which probably will cost you much more for importing and everything as well.

Anyways, before I begin with my input on your case. Will you please let me know few things.

- You said you are a programmer, what kind of a programmer are you? Are you just a coder? Because even a basic laptop will do that job just fine.
- Are you looking for multi-tasking considering you are interested in 4K and keeping many tabs open? If so .. what kind of programs will you be running.
- Are you into video editing? Programming and Graphics Designing can go hand in hand if one knows the roots of the tools he's using and that will be a game changer for your rig.

A little more details regarding what exactly you do will be much more helpful. I'll start writing reply on your other stuff such as banking needs while you get me the information I need as stated above.
Oh and .. 50k budget is what you have right now on hand, right? You are fine with adding 20k a month more to new parts? So I can assume you have 50,000 PKR on hand right now to buy computer parts and 20,000 PKR you can manage every month from your pay check, correct?

 

[M0hammad0sman]

Another thing I have in mind is to buy a 2500k or 2600k. I think they will be pretty decent builds with a good gpu. Plus, I will have a lot of money left to spend on other things. As it seems, the sandy bridge will not be obsolete for another 5 years. What do you guys think will be the disadvantages of these builds?

 

[UmerF]

Skylake isn't available here yet, you should check with local dealers of Intel you can also check up with Galaxy Computers and see what they tell you about the time frame and availability. Pretty sure it won't be way too long and since you're building them in parts you can wait on that with other parts as well if you feel like you can wait few months to boot your brand new PC.

Haswell and Skylake, no difference in gaming at all besides overclocking. Simply no gain at all in gaming as you would've expected but I always prefer to go for the latest tech specially if the price is same. If you can wait for Skylake and the price of those processors locally is same as Haswell then getting Haswell will be foolish because if you plan to upgrade it in few years and want to sell your parts you would want buyers who are interested in most recent technology and not the one before it which will be Haswell. Skylake will have better resale value over Haswell just because of "Skylake tow Haswell ke baad aya tha na yaar, isi liye zyada mahenga hai." mentality and the prices of motherboards will be just as much as the Haswell high end ones are. You should contact Ease Tec regarding their Gigabyte Z170 motherboards and check when they will be available as well any idea about it's pricing while they probably won't give you pricing just yet until it arrives it's no harm in asking. Also contact Shingtech to see what they have to say about ASUS Z170 Motherboards availability as well.

Now, if you decide to go Skylake then you will need to go DDR4 which is pricey as compared to DDR3 but like I said since you're building a brand new machine why not go for the latest technology out there specially if your budget allows which it should with 20,000 PKR / month being available a month at your PC's disposal from your paycheck. You can contact [MENTION=72]DSM1[/MENTION] and get DDR4 RAMs at great prices from him, [MENTION=8932]Dark Sith[/MENTION] also bought it from him recently so you can ask him for his experience as well. Dark Sith is a well reputed member of PG Community so anything he will say will always be taken with high regard from my side at least as well as many other members here. DSM1 is a new and upcoming seller with unique offerings which wasn't available before in Pakistan such as G.Skill RAMs which are pretty solid. Corsair, G.Skill and Kingston are all solid and reliable brands but I prefer Corsair/G.Skill myself and Kingston as my backup plan if the others aren't available and I really want it. You can take a read through this thread as well if you're interested to know more about DSM1 and his store, http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f68/official-gskill-here-231984/ as many PG members have been discussing many things with him there so you will get the better idea of what is available right now and what will be in near future.

SSD is a must and [MENTION=72]DSM1[/MENTION] can help you in that regard also as he's in the works on importing them. Do NOT buy Kingston V300 SSD. Period. Anything else with over 500 Mb/s read and write will be preferable and brands like Samsung is always a go and since they are priced same as other manufacturers give or take couple thousand rupees I'd pick Samsung over others but the problem is they are not available locally and you will have to import them and you will lose warranty as well as the price will go up significantly so unless someone is coming from abroad that you know then it can be a good deal otherwise buy something from local. Transcend got some decent SSDs available locally in Pakistan from Galaxy that I know of but I'm not a huge fan of these brands but [MENTION=8932]Dark Sith[/MENTION] seems to like them so if nothing better is available then you can go with these.

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Another thing I have in mind is to buy a 2500k or 2600k. I think they will be pretty decent builds with a good gpu. Plus, I will have a lot of money left to spend on other things. As it seems, the sandy bridge will not be obsolete for another 5 years. What do you guys think will be the disadvantages of these builds?

I thought you were interested in Haswell or Skylake? Buying 2nd gen processors will put you far behind in technology as DDR4 won't be available to you. I, for one like to purchase products which will hold it's resale value but .. if you do decide to go with 2nd Gen then you will definitely save a lot of money but I'm not sure you'll be able to find any of that in brand new condition but all used and then the risk factor will chime in again like your motherboard fiasco which I thought you weren't interested in?

The reason I told you to create a thread in public was exactly for this reason as I tend to go for highest end stuff that is out there which is not ideal for everyone so people with more experience on mid-end or budget builds can chime in here

 

[UmerF]

GPU, every modern GPU comes with an HDMI port and it has been coming with an HDMI port for many years now so you won't have to worry about that. However if you don't have graphic intensive programs then you can power a 4K Monitor just fine for programming and multi-tasking needs right from your high end motherboard offerings by ASUS, Gigabyte and MSi so you can save a lot on GPU if you really think you don't need them for graphic intensive programs. Also the latest processors such as Skylake got very nice graphics with them so you can actually do some moderate gaming on it as well without any card which I think will be the ideal solution for you as long as you don't use or plan to use any graphical intensive programs that would require a dedicated solution because that way GPU can be added much later on in your build when you have the budget and means to do so but until then you can simply keep on rocking Skylake's built-in graphics.

4K is a HUGE, I said again .. HUGE bliss when it comes to productivity. It has become relatively cheap now with decent monitors being around ~$400 USD while the gaming oriented ones are still above $1,000 USD like the one I have but you won't need to worry about high end ones since the details it offers you won't be benefiting from it at all therefore going with an entry level 4K monitor will be your best bet. Alternatively, you can buy super cheap 3x 1080p monitors but then you will need to buy GPU for that unless you are fine using a video adapter splitter for your on-board graphics but I'd always prefer 4K over 3x 1080p anyway.

1440p and 4K is a HUGE difference as I have both and can tell you all that from the experience, you can find entry level 1440p to be much cheaper than 4K perhaps but I'd prefer you go 4K for the productivity's sake because it's so helpful that I can't even begin to describe. You will run into minor issues as 4K isn't mainstream yet but nothing too big of an issue that you cannot handle. Websites aren't 4K optimized yet so you have to scroll in to find the perfect spot and you can use Windows' Display Scaling features to make sure you don't have eye strain and such by trying to read the text and other details that are too small for you to read. For me, specially for productivity .. 4K is definitely worth it. Once you go 4K, you cannot go back so only do it once because it'll take some time for you to settle back to 1440p or 1080p after using 4K for a while.

Keep in mind even an entry level 4K monitor will cost you upto 60-70k by the time it gets in Pakistan unless [MENTION=72]DSM1[/MENTION] gets his monitor deals done soon then the pricing might be ideal, get in touch with him regarding that as well so you might get everything locally with local warranty which is a huge plus specially if for whatever reason you plan to sell it later down the road.

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Sorry for the double post, mods.

 

[Dark Sith]

thanks [MENTION=15943]UmerF[/MENTION]

well 4k starts from a min 40 inch and above i have seen some models here , multiple windows can also be opened on 1440p and 1080p lcd , depends on what u like and what you can afford . [MENTION=72]DSM1[/MENTION] seeems so far to be a decent seller lets see how with passage of time he gets more stuff at decent prices . so far he only has rams again good prices , i got some ram coolers from him very nice price indeed .

 

[UmerF]

thanks @UmerF

well 4k starts from a min 40 inch and above i have seen some models here , multiple windows can also be opened on 1440p and 1080p lcd , depends on what u like and what you can afford . @DSM1 seeems so far to be a decent seller lets see how with passage of time he gets more stuff at decent prices . so far he only has rams again good prices , i got some ram coolers from him very nice price indeed .

He's looking for monitors, not TV. 4K TVs will become very pricey for him whereas he can get a monitor in half the price. Also, he's looking for productivity so opening multiple windows on 1440p/1080p and 4K is a different thing. You see much more on those opened windows on 4K since the resolution is 4x the amount from 1080p which will help him a lot with multi-tasking specially since he's a programmer so if he can afford it I'd totally recommend that to him over multiple 1080p screens.

As for everything else, [MENTION=125669]M0hammad0sman[/MENTION]. You heard the man .. you should be good to go on dealing with [MENTION=72]DSM1[/MENTION] since his experience with him has been good so far and even I can see him to become a good seller in future considering his business plan is interesting.

Now to your last requirement regarding PayPal and such, I think there was some service on PG a while ago which would offer you PayPal to Cash or something like that if I'm not mistaken? Maybe it's taken down due to the risk factors involved but you could look around that and if still nothing then I can guide you further on it in the PM.

Keep in mind that shipping is not the only factor here, customs will rip you apart and the tension and issues you will face in importing yourself specially for the first time you will be left surprised about how shitty our policies are regarding importing duties and it's structure. Contact [MENTION=2126]Jshak[/MENTION] and [MENTION=6946]amaga[/MENTION] regarding this and order via them so you don't have any surprises. You will also end up saving on shipping as they do group shipping and can give you better rates than you would get yourself I think. You can use them to order it from either Amazon or Newegg and you won't have an issue as opposed to doing it all yourself.

I believe I've answered all your queries so far so now other members can give in their input regarding your interest in 2nd Gen Processor and other budget stuff that I might not be really helpful in so wait for that.

 

[M0hammad0sman]

Thank you [MENTION=15943]UmerF[/MENTION] for your detailed reply.
First of all, let me answer your queries regarding my work.

- I am just a coder. Most of the time I will be running very light programs. I use linux and since I am just a beginner, I will be reading pdfs and stackoverflow and compiling source code on an IDE (jk I use vim).

-Yes I want to be multitasking that is why I need a 4k monitor. I have a notebook and a large whiteboard and boy, there is a difference. A large workspace enables you to do a lot more. I want to be able to open 2 browsers, an ide, a cli and a vm side by side. That being said, I think I should take a test run on 1440p and a 4k monitor.

-Although the above things require a very light pc, but I want to be able to see a 1080 movie, run a matlab script and sometimes open an ide inside a windows inside a vm inside a windows.

You look like an enthusiast. My mindset is a bit different. I am not looking for the latest tech. I am looking what suits me the best. A little overkill is always better but I don't want to spend lakhs if I don't have a significant difference. A video I just watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38KSD9o-LOs compares a 2600k with a 6700k and there is not a justifiable difference, especailly if you are not looking for the best framerate. For a moment, sandy bridges seemed to be the right choice as they can still kick ass but then I realized I won't find anything new, all used and overclocked and they can go bad anytime. It will be nicer to have a processor with 3 years warranty and a mobo with 1 year warranty. I have decided to go with haswell.

Is there any place in islamabad/rwp where I can go and test a 4k or 1440p monitor? What about the people in saddar selling 42" 4k in 28k?

 

[DSM1]

@UmerF thanks for the recommendation! I appreciate it.

@M0hammad0sman We do have G.SKILL DDR3 and DDR4 RAMs available, including niche products, at the best prices. I believe our prices are the lowest in Pakistan, and we offer the official G.SKILL warranty.

@Dark Sith The Patriot SSDs are going to be shipped today IA. Should be here by the end of this week hopefully if we don't face too many issues in clearance.

We will be getting monitors, as an official distributorship, which will probably come with a 3 year warranty. However that will take some time.

 

[Dark Sith]

if your prices of the ssd are good i will buy 2 for my rig ..fingers crossed

 

[UmerF]

Thank you @UmerF for your detailed reply.
First of all, let me answer your queries regarding my work.

- I am just a coder. Most of the time I will be running very light programs. I use linux and since I am just a beginner, I will be reading pdfs and stackoverflow and compiling source code on an IDE (jk I use vim).

-Yes I want to be multitasking that is why I need a 4k monitor. I have a notebook and a large whiteboard and boy, there is a difference. A large workspace enables you to do a lot more. I want to be able to open 2 browsers, an ide, a cli and a vm side by side. That being said, I think I should take a test run on 1440p and a 4k monitor.

-Although the above things require a very light pc, but I want to be able to see a 1080 movie, run a matlab script and sometimes open an ide inside a windows inside a vm inside a windows.

You look like an enthusiast. My mindset is a bit different. I am not looking for the latest tech. I am looking what suits me the best. A little overkill is always better but I don't want to spend lakhs if I don't have a significant difference. A video I just watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38KSD9o-LOs compares a 2600k with a 6700k and there is not a justifiable difference, especailly if you are not looking for the best framerate. For a moment, sandy bridges seemed to be the right choice as they can still kick ass but then I realized I won't find anything new, all used and overclocked and they can go bad anytime. It will be nicer to have a processor with 3 years warranty and a mobo with 1 year warranty. I have decided to go with haswell.

Is there any place in islamabad/rwp where I can go and test a 4k or 1440p monitor? What about the people in saddar selling 42" 4k in 28k?

Okay so you won't have any graphic intensive tasks but doing multi-tasking and all can put a great stress on your CPU depending on what you are doing. I'd still go for Skylake over Haswell so you save up on GPU money and put it in Skylake chipset with DDR4 and a high end motherboard.

I have a 4K Monitor along with an Ultrawide one as well as a 27" 1080p monitor that can go pivot as well whenever I want it to and they're all very best so I know what you mean by having more space for multi-tasking. 4K will be a bliss for you for productivity, you can quote me on that. Once you will use that for your coding purposes you will not be able to go back. You can open 2 browsers, IDE, CLI and a VM side by side without any issues. Having 4 screens open at the same time is always ideal but depending on your needs you can make snap them accordingly to your window.

You can watch a 1080p movie on 4K screen just fine without missing too much, 1080p movie on 4K screen is much better than on a 1440p screen because of how the resolution works. I am too lazy to download 720p TV Shows so I just download x264 codec HDTV versions of them which aren't very sharp and crisp like a 720p but since they're rendered at that resolution it is totally fine playing them on my 4K screen and be fine with it so you won't have any issues with that.

I am not as big of an enthusiast as [MENTION=8932]Dark Sith[/MENTION] here. I buy things that serves a purpose to me and me only and not judging by what it will or it did to others. Every single thing I have purchased was for the same reason, I purchase everything accordingly thinking of it's resale value even if I need to upgrade how much will I lose. Granted, I can shell out good chunk of money out of my ass without thinking too much but that's a given when your business relies on it. Just like you mentioned before, if you're going to spend half of your life in front of something it better be something worth it. Hell, it might even give you a confidence boost in your work as a reminder that "you've made it." as compared to many others in your age group most likely so that's also a plus.

Now that you've picked Haswell over Sandy Bridge, I'd urge you to leave out the GPU for now and put that money on Skylake instead. You can power a 4K monitor @ 60hz with Skylake right from your on-board memory and not have any issues at all. Yes, you can do the same with Haswell but like I mentioned before ... resale value counts. Now with [MENTION=72]DSM1[/MENTION] being available here with cheap DDR4 RAMs available locally it'd be a nice move to make but granted you will save a lot by going DDR3 way and such but you'll be building a new machine you plan to keep for many years to come on an old tech. It doesn't prove any significant gain if any at all at this moment but technology is moving rapid fast and you'd want to be future proof if you can afford it.

I have no idea about anyone selling 1440p or 4K monitors in Rawalpindi/Islamabad area so can't say anything for that. I'm sure there will be quite a few 1440p monitors for your testing but not sure about 4K ones. You can try 4K TVs perhaps to get the idea of resolution? Do NOT go by the size of the screen on the TV as it'll be much bigger than your monitor but measure stuff accordingly with your laptop or whatever by connecting it to the TV from any shop and see what kind of windows and everything else you can open. 4K monitor will be your most expensive part in the build for sure so you'll need to save up on that without a doubt, some of them are available at BeeGeek but they're so shitty for it's price that I wouldn't even recommend that because new and much better models are out there now. DO NOT BUY A TV AS A MONITOR FOR PRODUCTIVITY. It can definitely be a good thing to some but I would never recommend that to anyone, specially when you're sitting 2 ft away. You will start having neck pains and all kind of shit while working and multi-tasking.

Now like I mentioned above, you WILL save a lot by going Haswell w/ DDR3 way but if you can afford it considering the new processor and motherboard price will be similar for either of these processors you will be paying just a bit more on memory than on anything else considering it's DDR4. You will need more than 8GB of memory if you plan to run VMs smoothly but how much memory will totally depend on how many VMs you want running simultaneously. I have 32GB right now and I can dedicate 2GB RAM to each and not have any issues while running more than a dozen machines simultaneously but your mileage may vary.

Now ... if you really plan to VM a lot then I'd tell you to forget about Skylake and Haswell combined and go with 5820k which has a 6-Core processor but that will easily put your budget 20-30k extra but the extra cores power will be much beneficial to your work ONLY if you plan to VM a lot. I say it again, ONLY if you plan to use VMs a lot otherwise it's a waste.

So there you have it, my opinion. You can go Haswell or Skylake and won't miss much but if you're building totally new stuff I'd go for the newest thing on the market specially when you'll only be paying a little premium on your memory only.
Let me know if you have any questions.

P.S. Oh and like [MENTION=72]DSM1[/MENTION] said above in the post, Patriot SSDs are coming soon so you're in the luck considering he's planning to price them very competitively while also providing 3 years warranty instead of 1 year like competition available in the local market so that's a huge plus for you because you're pretty anal about your warranty stuff, just like the rest of us ​

 

[MonoQ]

Dark Sith is a well reputed member of PG Community so anything he will say will always be taken with high regard from my side at least as well as many other members here.

Tareefen ..eh

 

[UmerF]

Tareefen ..eh

Lol, tareefain that are very well deserved

 

[MonoQ]

from all ur msgs, i see that u are still not yet used to the shorthand typing ...instead prefer to write whole words

 

[Dark Sith]

WELL 4k lgLG-42UB82T this is the model with omar electronics , i was about to get it 75k without warranty but new / dubai wala .fanastic colors / depth etc /

i was confused as to whether with the pc it will do 60hrtz with no issues , hence i held back on it untill [MENTION=15943]UmerF[/MENTION] gives a go ahead on this , even though they said if it does not work out you can return it to us no issues . hence i have still an option to go for it .
[MENTION=15943]UmerF[/MENTION] [MENTION=21647]nafu[/MENTION] [MENTION=69152]MonoQ[/MENTION]

if you can shed some light on this .....the curved display from samsung was 180,000+ but fantastic build quality

does the above LED run at 60hertz via pc coz i will connect it to my 980

 

[UmerF]

from all ur msgs, i see that u are still not yet used to the shorthand typing ...instead prefer to write whole words

You mean like using "ur" instead of "you're" and "m" instead of "am" and such? Yeah, I used to type like that .. probably 6-7 years ago but have improved ever since. I realized to improve in one language you need to master it in it's true essence which you cannot do by using "ur, u, m and such stuff" I still improve in this language every day by learning new words and I doubt I'll ever go back to typing like that again lol.

 

[UmerF]

WELL 4k lgLG-42UB82T this is the model with omar electronics , i was about to get it 75k without warranty but new / dubai wala .fanastic colors / depth etc /

i was confused as to whether with the pc it will do 60hrtz with no issues , hence i held back on it untill @UmerF gives a go ahead on this , even though they said if it does not work out you can return it to us no issues . hence i have still an option to go for it .
@UmerF @nafu @MonoQ

if you can shed some light on this .....the curved display from samsung was 180,000+ but fantastic build quality

does the above LED run at 60hertz via pc coz i will connect it to my 980

According to this model, LG 42UB820V Televisions - 42” LG ULTRA HD 4K TV - LG Electronics UK is no doubt a sexy machine and you will be doing it justice if it's the original one they are giving by purchasing this monster. Probably the only TV I'll approve of for you to use as a monitor, lol.
However the specs for TVs are much different than on a monitor and while keeping all the differences and Pros of monitors aside I'm looking at these specs for 60hz now.

But before I even do any research on that .. it's not even the same model as the one suggested to you and I cannot find that model on LG's website on any country at all. Keep in mind usually TVs are same with hardware specs and model number changes a bit which varies by country while the hardware seems to be same.
Now while the LG website doesn't link or write anything regarding the hertz on the panel it's safe to assume it's at least 60hz if not more, high end TV panels always comes with higher hertz but since this is a 4K Panel that rule might change. Some pages even claims they are much higher than 100/200hz panels such as 900hz MCI which is basically 100hz for you.

Soooooo .. if we go by this model's specs you should be able to get 100hz on your monitor which is so good that I can't even begin to describe. My own monitor is capped at 60hz but it's a monitor so the response time trumps the hertz in the panel therefore delivering much better performance for gaming but if you do decide go with this TV which I think you should since the price is amazing for it and it looks sexy as well then you should easily be able to do 60hz if not more but that's only if we go by the specs of this model which isn't the exactly same one as you mentioned but the hardware is most likely the same. Take a look at the model link I mentioned above and see the design and tell me if it looks similar or same as the one you saw in the store that way we'll know if it's similar/same or totally different story.

Which Umar Electronics did you visit btw? The one in DHA or Downtown? I don't watch TVs or I'd probably grab one myself at this price. Great deal you got there considering it's in Pakistan

 

[MonoQ]

a good looking panel.but as far as sitting closer to it half of the day / gaming etc, a monitor is entirely in a different league as compared to a tv

 

[UmerF]

a good looking panel.but as far as sitting closer to it half of the day / gaming etc, a monitor is entirely in a different league as compared to a tv

He has decent experience in using TVs as monitor and he's probably getting it for home and not the office so depends if he'll be spending his whole day in front of it like I do or only for limited time but regardless since he's been using TVs as monitors for a while he's comfortable with it then it's no issue at all. 42" 4K Panel as a monitor is something even I'd be interested in as I wanted to try bigger than 28" one .. like 32-34" but never thought about 42" as it will become way too big for me and will give me neck pains to look around all the time. I bought monitor arms and been using that for couple weeks now just to avoid the same issue and have perfect visibility from viewing angles.

So for him, TV as a monitor is good as many others like to use that as well. I'm not in favor of it but everyone's preference is different and if one is already sold on something then there's no point in ruining it for them since they enjoy it thoroughly like [MENTION=8932]Dark Sith[/MENTION] here so I believe this TV will be a MUCH better option for him than 1080p ones he used in the past. I know for a fact he will cherish this purchase for a long, long time .. he loves watching super high quality movies that are like 15-18GB each so he will be truly doing it justice unlike me who downloads TV shows with 200-300mb size to watch it on 4K lol.

 

[Dark Sith]

emmm u.guess i.will get it.then..
it.says 900mhz.mci.but i guess.we have to.put it to.the test .

they had hdmi cable whixh was high speed on.back.it.said.4k. so lets.see.how it.goes .

i.was.double minded but still.i had to get a lcd regardless so.i.went.for.sony 50inxh smart tv
fraaking.beast ...but as i have 2.rigs.will.consider.the.4k.for.the.best will share.some.pics.later