MULTI [OT] Red Dead Redemption II | Wild West 1899

[Necrokiller]

You yourself commented on the NVidia image earlier in this page:

-Game does not top out at High, it has an Ultra setting too. This means, based on Nvidia recommendations, there is no single GPU that can run the game at 4K, Ultra and 60fps.

Seems like the game's either not that well optimized or Rockstar are pushing things way above the punching reach of the best GPUs in the market right now for the top-tier experience.

Understandable that people are mad that their $1200 GPUs can't even max out the game.

And?

Nothing I said passes any judgement on how well the game is optimised or it isn't. Not all game's "High" or "Ultra" mean the same thing. If the consoles are running at flat High settings and you need $1200 gpu to do 30fps on console resolutions, sure, its a shitty optimised game then.

 

[Chandoo]

Nothing I said passes any judgement on how well the game is optimised or it isn't. Not all game's "High" or "Ultra" mean the same thing. If the consoles are running at flat High settings and you need $1200 gpu to do 30fps, sure, its a shitty optimised game then.

My point was that keeping that in mind when you see PC gamers Abuses will lead to baning about the game in various performance threads, it shouldn't come as a surprise, whether it's a lack of optimization or pushing effects beyond the reach of the currently available hardware to max everything out.

 

[Necrokiller]

My point was that keeping that in mind when you see PC gamers Abuses will lead to baning about the game in various performance threads, it shouldn't come as a surprise, whether it's a lack of optimization or pushing effects beyond the reach of the currently available hardware to max everything out.

I mean you could Abuses will lead to ban about a game that isn't performing to your standards doesn't mean its justified like the guy faraany was talking about. He is whining that his Gtx 1060 cannot do 60fps at Ultra.

 

[Chandoo]

I mean you could Abuses will lead to ban about a game that isn't performing to your standards doesn't mean its justified like the guy faraany was talking about. He is whining that his Gtx 1060 cannot do 60fps at Ultra.

And like I said to franny, I wasn't even talking about that guy with my comment. The general PC performance thread is full of people saying the same thing.

People with 2080 Ti's are posting beautiful images in 4K with comments like 23-28 FPS. That's worse performance than the consoles.

Other people are posting how they're getting a game which looks and runs much worse on a 1050Ti than even a base PS4 (Keep in mind a 1050Ti is a far better GPU than the base PS4 GPU).

It's definitely not the best optimized game for sure.

 

[Necrokiller]

People with 2080 Ti's are posting beautiful images in 4K with comments like 23-28 FPS. That's worse performance than the consoles.

Do the settings match or exceed consoles?

It might as well as not be the best optimised game but your logic is hardly making any sense.

 

[iampasha]

Ultra is too far fetched but a GTX 1060 6gb should be doing 60 fps at high settings 1080p. Which is still not the case here. After all it's no Crysis of this generation - there's no Ray tracing, no new revolutionary tech or anything behind this game... it's also a year late and still a terrible port.

No body should purchase this hack job. Let the crackers do their thing. Let Cockstar know that their are consequences for their lazy port. Just like PC gamers did with Arkham Knight

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[Chandoo]

Do the settings match or exceed consoles?

It might as well as not be the best optimised game but your logic is hardly making any sense.

Conveniently snipping the part of my post where a console comparison was made doesn't make my logic any less sound

A game not being able to max out it's in-game settings (not even counting any external mods) on the strongest / most expensive hardware available commercially right now should be unacceptable by any standards. This is Crysisgate all over again.

 

[Necrokiller]

Conveniently snipping the part of my post where a console comparison was made doesn't make my logic any less sound

A game not being able to max out it's in-game settings (not even counting any external mods) on the strongest / most expensive hardware available commercially right now should be unacceptable by any standards. This is Crysisgate all over again.

Conveniently not answering my question

Console comparison can only be made when you know what are the console equivalents. They sure as heck aint Ultra lol

 

[Chandoo]

Conveniently not answering my question

Console comparison can only be made when you know what are the console equivalents. They sure as heck aint Ultra lol

That 1050 Ti comment is a direct answer to your question.

PS4 is the most widely available console version, the PS4's custom GPU is roughly equivalent to RX 550. The RX 550 is about 100% slower than a 1050 Ti.

Here's the post on Resetera in question. 1050 Ti can't run the game at 1080p/ 30 FPS at the lowest settings. The lowest settings which look much worse than how the game looks on the base PS4.

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Regardless of the settings, don't take my word on the game's buggy launch. Take these examples.




Red Dead Redemption 2 Is Having A Rough Launch On PC [Updated]


‘Red Dead Redemption 2’ PC launch hasn't had the best start


Red Dead Redemption 2 is broken on PC and no one knows how to fix it


RDR2: Launch issues megathread - Day Two

Abhi bhi koi comment karna hai farany ne ?

 

[Necrokiller]

That 1050 Ti comment is a direct answer to your question.

This was my question:

People with 2080 Ti's are posting beautiful images in 4K with comments like 23-28 FPS. That's worse performance than the consoles.

Do the settings match or exceed consoles?

Because you succeeded at pointing that 23-28fps is "worse performance than the consoles", but you failed to tell us the settings of those "beautiful 4K images".

Regardless of the settings, don't take my word on the game's buggy launch. Take these examples.

I don't think anyone claimed that the game isn't buggy at launch.

Here's the post on Resetera in question. 1050 Ti can't run the game at 1080p/ 30 FPS at the lowest settings. The lowest settings which look much worse than how the game looks on the base PS4.

That post doesn't even back up the claim with anything. Here you can see 1050Ti running the game at above 30fps on 1080p Medium.

Abhi bhi koi comment karna hai aap ne?

 

[Chandoo]

lol necro, that's an irrelevant question for what was posted.

That 4K images post is to show that the most expensive GPU in the market right now is struggling to hit 30 FPS (let alone 60) on the game at 4K. We don't know what settings the user was running, whether he was running everything at the max or what the equivalent Xbox X settings are. We will probably have more insight when Digital Foundry puts out their PC video.

Keep in mind this isn't even doing RTX. This is pure a pure non ray traced experience we're talking about.

However, what we do know is that the game's lower-end performance profile is worse than the base consoles. Hence the 1050 Ti vs PS4 comparison.

Not sure why you're even playing the devils advocate here.

That post doesn't even back up the claim with anything. Here you can see 1050Ti running the game at above 30fps on 1080p Medium.

Abhi bhi koi comment karna hai aap ne?

Yes, ask that guy to go to Saint Denis like the resteera poster said is the stress point

 

[Necrokiller]

That 4K images post is to show that the most expensive GPU in the market right now is struggling to hit 30 FPS (let alone 60) on the game at 4K.

That's not relevant to the game's optimization, this is what you can't understand. Plenty of games considered "well optimized" struggle to maintain 60fps on their absolute highest settings at 4K. Throw in MSAA (which Red Dead 2 supports, and you don't know the settings so maybe that explains the performance) and games in general will even struggle to maintain 30fps. I think more than anything else that just proves that 4K is still a waste of resources, and thus investing in a 4K display is a waste of money.

Hence the 1050 Ti vs PS4 comparison.

Not sure why you're even playing the devils advocate here.

And the video I posted does prove that 1050Ti can handle Medium easily, when you said it cannot even do Low based on a random Era post. I wouldn't have to play devils advocate if you showed some logic in your claims.

 

[Chandoo]

That's not relevant to the game's optimization, this is what you can't understand. Plenty of games considered "well optimized" struggle to maintain 60fps on their absolute highest settings at 4K. I think more than anything else that just proves that 4K is still a waste of resources, and thus investing in a 4K display is a waste of money.

Struggle to maintain 60 FPS sure, but we're talking about 23~28 FPS here. 60 is a pipe dream at that resolution and those settings on the worlds most expensive / technologically advanced GPU right now.

And the video I posted does prove that 1050Ti can handle Medium easily. I wouldn't have to play devils advocate if you made showed some sound logic in your claims.

Read the edit.

Most benchmarks are from the prologue and/or barren areas.

The Era poster is talking about benching in Saint Denis.

"1050Ti needs 900p at low to reach 30 frames per second"


2:50:59 mark.



I accept your apology.

 

[Necrokiller]

Struggle to maintain 60 FPS sure, but we're talking about 23~28 FPS here. 60 is a pipe dream at that resolution and those settings on the worlds most expensive / technologically advanced GPU right now.

You just said you don't know the settings for those screenshots. Maybe they are with MSAA enabled? Why are you so quick to make these conclusions?

4K, Ultra, 43fps

I accept your apology

I accept your apology.

I accept yours too

 

[Chandoo]

You just said you don't know the settings for those screenshots. Maybe they are with MSAA enabled? Why are you so quick to make these conclusions?

I clearly said we don't know what settings they're using. However 23~28 FPS is not acceptable on a console game, let alone the most expensive GPU in the market.

I accept yours too

There's no St Denis footage in that video Necro :laugh1:

Just take the L and leave it at that.





edit: caught you before the edit :laugh1::laugh1:

 

[Necrokiller]

I clearly said we don't know what settings they're using.

Speaking of taking the L

Struggle to maintain 60 FPS sure, but we're talking about 23~28 FPS here.

What 23-28fps?

Abhi bhi you'll keep shit posting based on claims you can't even back up from Era ? :laugh1:

 

[Chandoo]

Speaking of taking the L
What 23-28fps?

Abhi bhi you'll keep shit posting based on claims you can't even back up from Era ? :laugh1:

Is that better or worse than posting a video then quickly deleting it after realizing how it proved you wrong, and then re-adding it to save face after you've been caught

This is the post in question where the user says 23~28 FPS.


Now please share a 1050Ti 1080p Medium video in St. Denis which can easily do 30 FPS and don't delete it this time

 

[Necrokiller]

Ye lo bhae, pyaara shootout at St. Denis on 1050 Ti 1080p. Apparently can't even do 30fps on Low ... but its consistently above 30fps here too.

Ab base PS4 ki performance dekh lo https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...cEtUkjgAMVXDf_Kc57ds7ODL4/edit#gid=2041498701

Drops to 24, 5th percentile frame 26fps :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

Take that L to St. Denis :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

 

[Chandoo]

The game is more intensive than the benchmark btw.

The L's keep dropping left and right :laugh1:

 

[iampasha]

Take the L ? Is it Lun or loss

*You have entered the comedy area*

I know, I Know, I'm funny please laugh now



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