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d3s0lator

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up as always it will be streamed through our local doodh wala :D the Bo3 will be on saturday but will try to have something for tonight too just cause we can :)
 

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up as always it will be streamed through our local doodh wala :D the Bo3 will be on saturday but will try to have something for tonight too just cause we can :)
It says Saturday 12am. Doesn't It means it is tonight unless you guys have planned it for 11:59pm on Saturday instead


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dododo123

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Never got why people are so crazy about pudge items, I just traded an uncommon of his for 5 rares, and not even bad ones, lol.
 

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Working towards a dota 2 tournament and a future league at dota2pk.com. Check the tournament section for details. Need volunteers including moderators, casters and possibly streamers. Let me know via PM or steam if you can fit any of these roles or have any feedback in general. Cheers :)
 

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Working towards a dota 2 tournament and a future league at dota2pk.com. Check the tournament section for details. Need volunteers including moderators, casters and possibly streamers. Let me know via PM or steam if you can fit any of these roles or have any feedback in general. Cheers :)
Just checking the website and I like that it allows you to link the website account with the steam account. Good luck with your tourney and future plans, I'm sure some members will help you out.


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Shary Bhallu TC

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Getting 100 ms pings to SEA :D

BTW I am owning as Sniper nowadays. Pudge, Bara, Riki, Bounty. They are no match for me anymore, atleast the pub ones :)!

Currently I am having difficulty against no one. And my Win/Lose ratio is still positive, after ~120 games :D

Sadly I am only good as Sniper or ranged carries. I can deny/last hit with them very easily. Usually when soloing mid, when I get to level 8, the enemy mid is at level 5-6 due to all the denies :D Maybe they are ultra noob. Just enjoyed 2 easy wins. Thankfully after a good ass gank where I killed 4 heroes early on, the supports etc start listening to me. Before that, it is all "Sniper is a noob, repick a tank". LOL.

Whenever I get the chance, I watch DOTA matches, videos, read guides. Plus I have a Uni friend who has played 1200+ games and he guides me well. He says that I am ready for a proper 5 vs 5 match... It has only been a month or so since I started playing DOTA lol.

I used to hate DOTA back in the Counter Strike days, but now I love it.
 

Raza7154

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A sniper shouldn't ever mid to be honest... Every half decent mid hero owns sniper... Doesn't really have any decent spam, no escape can't rune hog plus can get ganked very easily... Always try to farm safe lane with sniper....

As for pudge, he should absolutely OWN sniper mid... If you win against a pudge mid with sniper, he's definitely a noob
 

Shary Bhallu TC

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There are definitely good Pudges too, those who buy Force Staffs and hook instantly :{ But when everything goes right, like supports ward properly, buy courier, buy supporting items, then I almost always dominate. I played 5 games today and in every one of those games, killed 20+ and died less than 5 times, not to mention assisted 10-30 in each game, and of course won all 5 games :D. I love it when our heroes ping enemy heroes. I Ult my assasinate from long range and watch them get owned by tankier heroes having left with 1/2th of their health in early game :D

It all comes together so well.

There are also some days when I get shitty teammates (those who join a gank while at 1/3rd their health, to ks). Some days I feed too much (enemies have all tanky heroes, like Pudge, Bara, Centaur, Huskar etc). And other days, when I am playing safe lane, the support hero takes all the last hits, or pushes the lane instead of pulling it -.- So I lose those kinda games.

I was so underconfident while playing Sniper due to how extremely squishy he is (I asked for advice here and it definitely helped, and will no doubt ask once more if I hit a rough patch). But I think that I am beginning to get the hang of Sniper now. How to hide, how to kill invisible units, how to avoid tanky heroes, when to join a gank, which items to buy in which situation. Map awareness has improved so much.

I bet that after a month or two, I will look back and see how little I knew of DOTA at this point. I am yet to get a taste of a proper DOTA 2 clan war. My experienced friends are pressurizing me into playing it, but I don't think I am ready. Will begin after 20th Nov ;)

I think that DOTA is one of those kinda games in which even if I play for 2 years straight, I will keep on finding new mechanisms. Kinda like how CS is.

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BTW I think that Sniper should indeed take solo mid. Sometimes it is bad, like against Mirana or Huskar (or Bara, or Pudge etc) who close the distance gap too much too quickly and kill Sniper. But mostly it feels safe to me to solo mid. Plus Sniper is really weak early on, with no defense, no attack, no proper abilities. So last hitting and denying creeps is the best way to earn XP, start carrying, and not letting their solo mid get that much XP. :)
 
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Raza7154

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BTW I think that Sniper should indeed take solo mid. Sometimes it is bad, like against Mirana or Huskar (or Bara, or Pudge etc) who close the distance gap too much too quickly and kill Sniper. But mostly it feels safe to me to solo mid. Plus Sniper is really weak early on, with no defense, no attack, no proper abilities. So last hitting and denying creeps is the best way to earn XP, start carrying, and not letting their solo mid get that much XP. :)
EVERY mid hero beats sniper.... Puck, Pudge, OD, Akasha, DK, Storm.... and every hero outlevels sniper mid, that's my point... sniper needs gold, not that much exp... and farming is easier in safe lane.... khair, as long as it's working for you, it's good enough...

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I bet that after a month or two, I will look back and see how little I knew of DOTA at this point. I am yet to get a taste of a proper DOTA 2 clan war. My experienced friends are pressurizing me into playing it, but I don't think I am ready. Will begin after 20th Nov ;)
one proper CM experience is worth more than 50 pubs... you'll learn so much about how to play the game properly... and if your friends are prepared to carry you and give you the feel of the game, all the better....
 

dasheikh

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Connects been really slow to fix the issues at hand then =/ Not really sure what I should tell them as the routing looks fine, its just really high once it gets to SGP


C:\Users\idossul>tracert 103.28.54.1


Tracing route to sgp-1.valve.net [103.28.54.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:


1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 111.119.171.1
2 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms AlphaUp20-02.connect.net.pk [192.168.20.2]
3 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms CCRouter.connect.net.pk [221.120.249.1]
4 2 ms 6 ms 4 ms static.khi77.pie.net.pk [221.120.204.113]
5 5 ms 2 ms 4 ms rwp44.pie.net.pk [221.120.251.21]
6 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms static-khi-ni02-swa.pie.net.pk [202.125.128.180]


7 91 ms 84 ms 89 ms khi77.pie.net.pk [202.125.129.222]
8 174 ms 172 ms 172 ms 32590.sgw.equinix.com [202.79.197.176]
9 174 ms 175 ms 174 ms sgp-1.valve.net [103.28.54.1]


Trace complete.

C:\Users\idossul>tracert 103.10.124.1


Tracing route to sgp-2.valve.net [103.10.124.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:


1 1 ms 3 ms 2 ms 111.119.171.1
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms AlphaUp20-02.connect.net.pk [192.168.20.2]
3 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms CCRouter.connect.net.pk [221.120.249.1]
4 40 ms 47 ms 53 ms static.khi77.pie.net.pk [221.120.204.113]
5 3 ms 3 ms 4 ms rwp44.pie.net.pk [221.120.251.169]
6 5 ms 2 ms 2 ms static-khi-ni02-swa.pie.net.pk [202.125.128.180]


7 84 ms 85 ms 88 ms khi77.pie.net.pk [202.125.129.222]
8 171 ms 171 ms 171 ms 32590.sgw.equinix.com [202.79.197.176]
9 172 ms 173 ms 172 ms 103-10-124-227.valve.net [103.10.124.227]
10 175 ms 173 ms 175 ms sgp-2.valve.net [103.10.124.1]


Trace complete.
 

dododo123

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Seems like the problem is within Karachi? My trace route shows 30ms by the time I hit karachi, and I'm in Islamabad - you're showing 90ms, and thats where the extra delay seems to be coming from.
 

saad07

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Sniper has an advantage on mid aganist only a handful of heros and those hero don't normally go mid. Any nukers who can spam and bottle-Abuses will lead to ban superiorly will beat the living hell out of sniper. Queen of pain comes to my mind who can completely zone out a sniper from level 1. Her AA will ensure that denying will be extremely difficult and SS will drain your HP to the point where one scream might grab a kill. But then again there are very few heros who can beat a good QOP mid ;)
Besides QOP, beastmaster, razor, SF, puck, storm, night stalker, tinker hell even a Zeus can easily outlane a sniper once they hit level 3 when their nukes hurt like hell.
I'm excited every time an opposite team picks a sniper since he's basically free food until he get lothars which I try to ensure he doesn't before the 30th minute mark :laugh1:
 
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