Hardware Prices in Pakistan compared to Newegg.com. (Be prepared for a lecture:p)

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iameXtreme

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Ok so recently ive been hit with loads of emails saying that hardware prices in Pakistan are wayy too high compared to newegg and other international retailers. So i thought that some education is required in order for you guys to understand the whole concept behind the reason of these price differences.

Well first of all i would like to say that anyone who expects or thinks that hardware prices in Pakistan should be the same as international market (specifically newegg), he/she is living in a bubble thats gonna explode very soon. and i suggest that it explodes quick cuz the sooner it does the better it would be for everyone.
Now when someone wants to buy products in Pakistan, the first thing they do is open their browsers and either direct themselves to newegg or google about the reviews of that particular product. Lets take graphic cards as an example. You are interested in purchasing a GTX 570 so you go quickly on newegg and search for it and what do you get.

EVGA GTX 570 - $349.99 = 31500
MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr - $369.99 = 33210 but since the normal variant is available here so you guess it would be roughly the same price as evga.
Sparkle GTX 570 - $349.99 = 31500

Instantly you are filled with joy and happiness that cards are so cheap in international market but also with a little doubt thinking how much they will cost here. So after this you open up another few tabs on your browser and redirect them to www.galaxy.com.pk, www.astron.com.pk and www.iamextreme.net. You look for prices of GTX 570 in local market keeping your fingers crossed hoping that prices here will match newegg ones. But what do you find.

EVGA GTX 570 - 39000 = $433.33 :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
MSI GTX 570 - 32000 = $355.55 another eye opener since the twin frozr overclocked model on newegg was for 350 so you would expect to pay less for a stock version here.
Sparkle GTX 570 - 31500 (soon to be 32000)= $355.99 you're roughly paying the same amount as newegg but still the extra $7-8 is still not satisfying.

Hence you start emailing the retailers here who deal in these cards saying that you are interested in purchasing GTX 570 but the prices that they offer is higher compared to newegg and what not, but you dont and never try to find out what reason could it be that newegg is so cheap and retailers over here are expensive. Well this is where the education begins.

Newegg was formed in 2001 dealing mainly in graphic cards in the beginning. The founders used to build customized full pcs (something like alienware but without the art) and soon they realized that demand for separate hardware components was increasing compared to fully built systems. Hence newegg was born. The key feature behind their success was to keep a competitve price and top notch customer support. Just in 4 years after it was born, newegg's annual sales were around (this is the important bit) $1.3 BILLION. And since then there has been no one able to compete with them or get in their way. Now what do their sales figures have to do anything with retailers over here who are over pricing. Well newegg's sales figures are the reason why no one can match their prices. I will talk about my own company since i dont know what prices astron and galaxy gets from hardware companies. The price that i get for a GTX 570 card from sparkle, lets say 29000 or $322, Newegg will get the same card from sparkle for around $285 or $290 which is around Rs. 25650. Hence the margin that newegg gets from sparkle is already 4k more than me. And thats why it is able to sell it off for such a cheap price as well. Now why would sparkle charge me more and newegg less? Sales Figures. Sparkle knows Newegg who currently has sales over $2b billion USD would be able to sell their cards off to customers far more quickly and easily than IAMEXTREME in Pakistan. Plus newegg orders atleast (im not joking) 100 cards per model from every manufacturer that it has available on its store. So sparkle knows that newegg can not only pick up a lot of cards from them in one order, but also will be able to sell those cards off much quicker than me. Hence the extra ordinary favour. US has a huuuuuuggeee population thats no brainer and people over there earn more than people here. Dollars value is more compared to Pak rupees, plus over there people are offered a finance facility if they cannot afford a $350 card, they can get it financed and pay the amount in 6 months without any interest. That attracts customers and increases your sales automatically as well.

Now i for one am not trying to convince you guys that galaxy is not ripping you off because they are and trust me, they are ripping you off big time. A card that costs them really cheap, they are making almost 100% profit on some of them (believe me they are). But i do mind when you look at IAMEXTREME.NET the same way as you look at galaxy and other rip offs. I or anyone in Pakistan atleast will never be able to offer products to you at the same price as newegg for the following reasons.

  • Newegg sales are in billions where as my sales arent.
  • Newegg is based in a country where people have a much stronger spending power compared to Pakistan where these kind of things are considered as a luxury.
  • US import laws and customs although might be corrupt, but im pretty sure they wont be as corrupt as they are in Pakistan where Duty on Computers is 0% but you are still charged around 3-5% on them. Where customs officers are so illetirate that they dont know PC's have coolers as well so they regard them as a household cooling product rather than a computer cooling product (this has happened with me once).
  • And finally, the ever increasing Dollar to Pak Ratio. (i just found out that dollar is Rs. 90 now(n)(n)(n)(n))
These are pretty key factors why prices here can never be matched to newegg or any other retailer in international market. And as i said, the sooner you realize it the better it is for everyone. The only way i can ever think of matching prices with newegg is if i start breaking the law and start importing these products via grey channel but those will have their own consequences. No warranty and whatever i earn will be HARAM and i am not up for that. My main goal has been and always will be to try and provide you guys with the best possible products at the cheapest rates possible. After all i am here to do a business and i expect that if i invest 60 or 70 Lakhs in this, i get something out of it too.

Hope I didnt offend anyone because that wasnt my intention and I hope i clarified the whole reason why newegg can never be matched anywhere in the world specially here in Pakistan. If you guys have any concerns about what i said, please dont hesitate to let me know, ill try my best to answer all of your queries.
 

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Very well said yasir bhai =).. Totally in your favour =)..

Though you did get a little sentimental there =P ...

My point is I wont mind even if galaxy charges 3-4k more for something but with that they should give excellent customer care support which frankly speaking sucks. My motherboard went for RMA and it took them a month to replace it or get it fixed watever it was. Talking about ASUS P5G41T-M LX which is a dirt cheap motherboard... I was without a PC for a month..
Now if I am buying a 40k card and if anything happens to it I want them to do watever it takes to accomodate me within makx 1-2 weeks not more than that.

IAMEXTREME offers by far the best prices and the best after sales support, I remember I bought things worth rupees 40k from you 2 months back and the PSU you shipped was not working and you immediately sent me another one without asking me anything about it..
And what galaxy does is take it to the lab on the third floor, they check it and then say sir yeh repair hoga blah blah loadhsedding was the reason and you have to pay for the repair charges. Bullshit ... a motherboard not giving a display from the very first day is due to loadshedding ? Nope.. So yeah charge 5k as a profit i dont mind but with that 5k I want 3 years warranty and excellent support.
 

hasanJ

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Great Post
ur Prices are within 1-1.5k Rs of Newegg Prices man what more do ppl want

Ofcourse there are those who willingly pay 39000Rs for GTX570 from Galaxy just because it has EVGA Stamped across it without bothering to check the International Prices
 

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@Ali Kamran

Very well described.

I was always reluctant to buy quality PC products in Pakistan just for the thing u mentioned until i visit www.iamextreme.net

And after that i purchased whatever i can just from www.iamextreme.net

Even i had to wait for some stock to be arrived but it was still ok for me instead to go anywhere else.
 

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I've 2 question.
When will you deal in ASRock motherboards. :p and if you ask only 1-1.5k more than Newegg on GPUs then what is the reason behind RAMs, they're almost twice of the price as compare to Newegg [not comparing just saying].
 

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Now i am in malaysia i have seen the prices.In Malaysia EVGA GTX 570 is 1019RM with 3 years Warranty compare to PKR 31500
and replacement with in one weak max
 
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iameXtreme

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I've 2 question.
When will you deal in ASRock motherboards. :p and if you ask only 1-1.5k more than Newegg on GPUs then what is the reason behind RAMs, they're almost twice of the price as compare to Newegg [not comparing just saying].
No date or anything on ASrock motherboard ill let you know when things will be confirmed. Regarding RAM's well its the same case as i mentioned in my post. Newegg gets special prices and plus the custom duties that you pay here are totally un predictable. sometimes i end up paying a very less amount and sometimes i end up paying thrice as much as it should be. Hence the price difference.
 

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It was mainly 'informational' instead of 'educational'. Nonetheless a good effort by chahudary sahab, which should be praised.

But I disagree about Galaxy earning 100% more profit. I think it wont be more than 50% ... as 100% is ... lets just say, foolish.

Overall ... a 'sensible' mind would know that there are Taxes, Custom Duties to pay in Pakistan. And not to mention the Business Man's "Expectations" (i.e. Returns) from his/her investment ... It should be clear as to why these prices are not a replica of newegg of any international market price.
 

iameXtreme

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abobo i said that on some products they do earn around 100% profit. Hint hint 6870....which was being sold was 23000 i believe...there was a 100% profit in after paying customs and shipping.
 

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nice post..i just have two suggestions for you..please try to increase warranty terms on graphic cards..even 2 years would be awesome..secondly when will your stock be replenished? you didnt reply to my emails!
 

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^That is the max that is being given by the manufacturer. If you remember way back it was IMX who first increased the warranty period on PSU's & other stores followed suite. Warranty on the PSU's was increased because Xigmatek allowed IMX to do so.

Regarding you 2nd query if you are referring to graphic cards than they should be on sale from Monday/Tuesday on wards.
 

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What's the main difference between xfx and his and evga and sparkle. Never understood the difference -.-
 

hasanJ

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What's the main difference between xfx and his and evga and sparkle. Never understood the difference -.-
they are all manufacturers
AMD/Nvida give their Reference Cards to these companies to Mass Produce

ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte Manufacture both AMD and Nvidia Cards

HIS and XFX only offer AMD Cards

Sparkle and EVGA only offer nvidia Cards

there are tons of other manufacturers like Inno3d Galaxy Zotac Palit Sapphire
 

sunny945

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oh yasir bhai aap ke paas kitna time hay :p very nice post and informative too. the only problem i see with IMX is that IMX is still in starting stages right now and you are doing a very good job by getting new products every day (y).the prices at IMX are no doubt very very good as IMX also give some extra features like free shipping etc but the main problem as i mentioned is the no of products :( but you are doing a well job here by bringing more products and quality brands here. @GUYS THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR LOCAL SHOP COMPARISON AND ITS JUST SHOWING THE FACT WHY PRODUCTS ARE CHEAP AT NEWEGG. SO I DON'T WANT ANY TYPE OF FIGHT HERE. AND REMEMBER THIS IS A WARNING. :)
 
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