Career Advice after A Levels

crazygamer

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hi y'all i am fsc student i have already wasted an year due to my supply in maths and will inshallah clear that in may 2015 but meanwhile i require from all fellow pakgamers in helping me decide the best career route/degree for my life guys the situations is damn bad at my end so i am desperately in need of help..so here goes my story i had olevels with very average or below average grades but no "E" OR "U" and started FSC with hopes of a new life a new dream to enter MECHANICAL ENGINEERING but it all turned out quite opposite and i did reaaaallllly in bad in fsc partly due to discouraging teachers and partly due to my ccriminal negligence and my further rebellious attitude so hers the thing i am really confused about what to do in my life i will pass math but my overall percentage will still remain in fifties.....and i am bad at math partly due to lack of practice i.e i have opened my books now after almost an year making my progress in math really slow and confused i live in rural area so dont have much tutions around so my family has sent me to islamabad i have started taking math tution so partly that issue is under work but i need career guidance from someone real good because lookin at my marks everyone says ACCA but dont will it work or not because i need to get a stable carrer as i need to start supporting my family ASAP but when i read forums people always advise to do what one wants not because it guarantees some monetary benefits bcoz u will regret later in ur life and even might not perform well in that field in which you are not interested....so iam stuck in this dilemma , quick sand whatever you can call it if u can help guiding me or refer some one who is capable of conselling feel free
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NaNoW

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hi y'all i am fsc student i have already wasted an year due to my supply in maths and will inshallah clear that in may 2015 but meanwhile i require from all fellow pakgamers in helping me decide the best career route/degree for my life guys the situations is damn bad at my end so i am desperately in need of help..so here goes my story i had olevels with very average or below average grades but no "E" OR "U" and started FSC with hopes of a new life a new dream to enter MECHANICAL ENGINEERING but it all turned out quite opposite and i did reaaaallllly in bad in fsc partly due to discouraging teachers and partly due to my ccriminal negligence and my further rebellious attitude so hers the thing i am really confused about what to do in my life i will pass math but my overall percentage will still remain in fifties.....and i am bad at math partly due to lack of practice i.e i have opened my books now after almost an year making my progress in math really slow and confused i live in rural area so dont have much tutions around so my family has sent me to islamabad i have started taking math tution so partly that issue is under work but i need career guidance from someone real good because lookin at my marks everyone says ACCA but dont will it work or not because i need to get a stable carrer as i need to start supporting my family ASAP but when i read forums people always advise to do what one wants not because it guarantees some monetary benefits bcoz u will regret later in ur life and even might not perform well in that field in which you are not interested....so iam stuck in this dilemma , quick sand whatever you all plz help me you can even call me at 0322-5170798 if u can help guiding me or refer some one.
any help @NaNoW

What do you want to become...not an interest, but really passionate about? i.e if someone doesnt pay you anything to do it, you would still do it for free?
 

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hi y'all i am fsc student i have already wasted an year due to my supply in maths and will inshallah clear that in may 2015 but meanwhile i require from all fellow pakgamers in helping me decide the best career route/degree for my life guys the situations is damn bad at my end so i am desperately in need of help..so here goes my story i had olevels with very average or below average grades but no "E" OR "U" and started FSC with hopes of a new life a new dream to enter MECHANICAL ENGINEERING but it all turned out quite opposite and i did reaaaallllly in bad in fsc partly due to discouraging teachers and partly due to my ccriminal negligence and my further rebellious attitude so hers the thing i am really confused about what to do in my life i will pass math but my overall percentage will still remain in fifties.....and i am bad at math partly due to lack of practice i.e i have opened my books now after almost an year making my progress in math really slow and confused i live in rural area so dont have much tutions around so my family has sent me to islamabad i have started taking math tution so partly that issue is under work but i need career guidance from someone real good because lookin at my marks everyone says ACCA but dont will it work or not because i need to get a stable carrer as i need to start supporting my family ASAP but when i read forums people always advise to do what one wants not because it guarantees some monetary benefits bcoz u will regret later in ur life and even might not perform well in that field in which you are not interested....so iam stuck in this dilemma , quick sand whatever you all plz help me you can even call me at 0322-5170798 if u can help guiding me or refer some one.
any help @NaNoW

Dekho bhai, There are many ways to come out of this academic and mental turmoil

1. Get serious with your life 'PRACTICALLY'. You have cleared the first step by 'realizing' your mistakes and now its time to act.

2. Calm yourself down, whatever makes you calm, talking to your close friend,your mom/dad/sister/bhai , talk to some psychological counseller if possible, BUT DON'T try to develop escapist tendency in anyway (I am not assuming that you are developing it, but just saying k don't do it even if you feel like it)

3. Dekho there are many ways

a) You may improve your fsc marks (POSSIBLY just improve some low scored subjects IF YOU ARE IN federal board) and bring them to 60% and believe me AIK SAAL MZEED bhi zaya hona is nothing compared to your whole life of 40-50 years ahead of you...Take this pledge...I hope your parents agree with your decision and jb you will score marks they will automatically start to realize that you are getting your act up....

b) First take time to think for yourself, AND FOR YOUR OWN SELF only, think about your aptitudes, which subjects/chapters/stuff excites you and engages you the most most most.....and then imagine yourself like doing that and feel If you can enjoy that or no...and at the same time realize that k reality zroori ni bilkul aisi hee nikly jesy you projected, but think k 'I know there would be obstacles but I am reading to face them and clear them"...and then surf the internet and know more about your aptitude and desired subjects and degrees and also the obstacles you have to face...Take a 360 degree view and then take a decision k han bhai "I select this"...Even if you like philosophy, sociology anything...just select a thing and then work on...

c) IF NEEDED (only if neccessary) keep options B and C open too...and han one more thing in practical life things usually don't work the way you want them...like you can't expect k sociology mein major krkey instantly aik achi job lg jaegi, explore stuff man k how can I 'ALIGN' my passion with my goals in life (LIKE parents and khud ko support krna)...Money is a key variable in there...But isko passion k agy ni aney dena, just explore things...I know a guy who has done a degree in anthro and socio or something and he has good programming skills too.. He earned them to make money...and side by side usny apna passion bhi continue rkha hua hai...he knew k doing those degrees jinki 'MARKET' mein demand ni hai, he'll a hard time, so he chose something as a side subject jiskki market mein demand hai AND JO tmhy psnd bhi hai...and you will do fine...Khair if the field is in demand then no worries.....

D) I'd state that again, after soul searching for your passion, visit websites of various pakistani universitiy (NUST,LUMS,GIKI,PIEAS,UET,BAHRIA,AIR,I.S.T) and look at their admission process and entry tests...There are numerous pages on facebook available for guidance about how to take entrance test of NUST GIKI PIEAS BAHRIA IST etc... contact university students by using search function, send them messages, atleast a few of them will reply for sure...and after that 'STUDY YOUR FSC books hard'... Really hard and have a sense that k entry test mein questions kesy ayenge...they are neither too conceptual nor ziada ratty waly...just you should know your stuff and few techniques of taking entrance tests...which would prove to be very usefull

E) Wait for admission, enjoy life xD
 

crazygamer

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Dekho bhai, There are many ways to come out of this academic and mental turmoil

1. Get serious with your life 'PRACTICALLY'. You have cleared the first step by 'realizing' your mistakes and now its time to act.

2. Calm yourself down, whatever makes you calm, talking to your close friend,your mom/dad/sister/bhai , talk to some psychological counseller if possible, BUT DON'T try to develop escapist tendency in anyway (I am not assuming that you are developing it, but just saying k don't do it even if you feel like it)

3. Dekho there are many ways

a) You may improve your fsc marks (POSSIBLY just improve some low scored subjects IF YOU ARE IN federal board) and bring them to 60% and believe me AIK SAAL MZEED bhi zaya hona is nothing compared to your whole life of 40-50 years ahead of you...Take this pledge...I hope your parents agree with your decision and jb you will score marks they will automatically start to realize that you are getting your act up....

b) First take time to think for yourself, AND FOR YOUR OWN SELF only, think about your aptitudes, which subjects/chapters/stuff excites you and engages you the most most most.....and then imagine yourself like doing that and feel If you can enjoy that or no...and at the same time realize that k reality zroori ni bilkul aisi hee nikly jesy you projected, but think k 'I know there would be obstacles but I am reading to face them and clear them"...and then surf the internet and know more about your aptitude and desired subjects and degrees and also the obstacles you have to face...Take a 360 degree view and then take a decision k han bhai "I select this"...Even if you like philosophy, sociology anything...just select a thing and then work on...

c) IF NEEDED (only if neccessary) keep options B and C open too...and han one more thing in practical life things usually don't work the way you want them...like you can't expect k sociology mein major krkey instantly aik achi job lg jaegi, explore stuff man k how can I 'ALIGN' my passion with my goals in life (LIKE parents and khud ko support krna)...Money is a key variable in there...But isko passion k agy ni aney dena, just explore things...I know a guy who has done a degree in anthro and socio or something and he has good programming skills too.. He earned them to make money...and side by side usny apna passion bhi continue rkha hua hai...he knew k doing those degrees jinki 'MARKET' mein demand ni hai, he'll a hard time, so he chose something as a side subject jiskki market mein demand hai AND JO tmhy psnd bhi hai...and you will do fine...Khair if the field is in demand then no worries.....

D) I'd state that again, after soul searching for your passion, visit websites of various pakistani universitiy (NUST,LUMS,GIKI,PIEAS,UET,BAHRIA,AIR,I.S.T) and look at their admission process and entry tests...There are numerous pages on facebook available for guidance about how to take entrance test of NUST GIKI PIEAS BAHRIA IST etc... contact university students by using search function, send them messages, atleast a few of them will reply for sure...and after that 'STUDY YOUR FSC books hard'... Really hard and have a sense that k entry test mein questions kesy ayenge...they are neither too conceptual nor ziada ratty waly...just you should know your stuff and few techniques of taking entrance tests...which would prove to be very usefull

E) Wait for admission, enjoy life xD
b)about aptitudes my interest in more into social sciences liberal arts specifically history , political science international relations sociology etc even if i wanted to pursue a degree in this my grades dont support me cz neither am i eligible for places like LUMS/NUST/GIKI even LSE because 0f the 65% barrier even i do it from avg institutes like iqra , fccu so i dont think its a viable option in pakistan because i also have to become independent or make myself something worthy as i need to get on my feet ASAP since i dont have any support on which i could rely on after getting a non market degree i might call it because the best one can become after the studying such a degree is a TEACHER or professor and since intend to move abroad later ln life there is no demand for degree in political science intnl relations socio anthro etc in the professional world as far as i know

so i have been thinking of getting a general degree so that i get to follow the same old bba-mba route for that i am going to apply in Forman christian college universityhttp://www.fccollege.edu.pk/academics/som/baccalaureate and fast about fast its cht-fsd campus is around 30 kms from me so thats the easiest option for me as i wont need to leave home nor move to another city plus

ACCA which i dont like much as it all boring stuff and requires real self effort / study economically its the onnly positive factor that i will have some skilll that can get me employment even if not in pakistan in middle east or abroad..my perspective by looking at my cousin who's an acca got recently employed in uae

but then i think why should i be living some other person's life and why not live a life that i want to after getting a feeling that despite my academic failures i might be a better person than a one who living a financially succesfull life or a "career" since i have probably false feeling that i have a more wider perspective of a career since i've had a better schooling i.e THE CITY school not bragging at all em a loser but still....and eventhough i am from a quite humble background so need to earn because in our society " NA BAAP BARA NA BHAIYA SAB Se BARA rUPAIYA"

others say Computer science is a wider degree with plenty much of skills and job oppurtunities but looking at its course MATH frightens me
can u giude me more about cumputer science please dont suggest me to google thats the reason i am here
even though calculus will be still there in bba bs a &f so math se jan nai chut tee something i am realy weak because of my past mistakes
@Kashan123999

[MENTION=4177]NaNoW[/MENTION] social sciences are of my interest free part is impossible
 
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Kashan123999

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b)about aptitudes my interest in more into social sciences liberal arts specifically history , political science international relations sociology etc even if i wanted to pursue a degree in this my grades dont support me cz neither am i eligible for places like LUMS/NUST/GIKI even LSE because 0f the 65% barrier even i do it from avg institutes like iqra , fccu so i dont think its a viable option in pakistan because i also have to become independent or make myself something worthy as i need to get on my feet ASAP since i dont have any support on which i could rely on after getting a non market degree i might call it because the best one can become after the studying such a degree is a TEACHER or professor and since intend to move abroad later ln life there is no demand for degree in political science intnl relations socio anthro etc in the professional world as far as i know

so i have been thinking of getting a general degree so that i get to follow the same old bba-mba route for that i am going to apply in Forman christian college universityhttp://www.fccollege.edu.pk/academics/som/baccalaureate and fast about fast its cht-fsd campus is around 30 kms from me so thats the easiest option for me as i wont need to leave home nor move to another city plus

ACCA which i dont like much as it all boring stuff and requires real self effort / study economically its the onnly positive factor that i will have some skilll that can get me employment even if not in pakistan in middle east or abroad..my perspective by looking at my cousin who's an acca got recently employed in uae

but then i think why should i be living some other person's life and why not live a life that i want to after getting a feeling that despite my academic failures i might be a better person than a one who living a financially succesfull life or a "career" since i have probably false feeling that i have a more wider perspective of a career since i've had a better schooling i.e THE CITY school not bragging at all em a loser but still....and eventhough i am from a quite humble background so need to earn because in our society " NA BAAP BARA NA BHAIYA SAB Se BARA rUPAIYA"

others say Computer science is a wider degree with plenty much of skills and job oppurtunities but looking at its course MATH frightens me
can u giude me more about cumputer science please dont suggest me to google thats the reason i am here
even though calculus will be still there in bba bs a &f so math se jan nai chut tee something i am realy weak because of my past mistakes
@Kashan123999

[MENTION=4177]NaNoW[/MENTION] social sciences are of my interest free part is impossible
Dekho bhai, if you will not know maths, this seriously barres your chances. Although pol. Science itself does not contain any maths, still mathematics will 1. Widen your scope for careers/degrees 2. It will boost your Fsc percentage.

I'd suggest you to improve either your part 1 or part 2. It's tough but to improve your fsc percentage and get into a decent uni and that too of political science, you have to do it. Improve your percentage and if you want to apply in lums then take SAT with prep. Then apply to lums , Nust, punjab Uni.

This is how you can get in a decent-good pol sci/socio/bba program and progress from there relatively easily.


Otherwise if you do well in GC uni lahore/fc uni, its social science departments are pretty good as far "as i know". But yeah you have to prove yourself there, get a good gpa, participate in declamations/debates. Etc only then you have a chance to land into a very good masters program or even a pretty decent job.


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First of all,I would suggest keh listen to your parents. Do not listen to your friends,your neighbours,your rishtedaar.Just listen to your parents . Because tbh your parents know you more than anyone else,even yourself .I'm talking about this in regards with what you want to do . You should approach your parents and take guidance from them from what you should become whilst keeping aside the salary thing or whether or not you will land a good job. I have a friend who is great at studies but he doesnt want to become an Engineer,just like my own self because of pressure from family to take a profession which will ultimately land a good job.ofcourse parents think this way because they worry about your future alot . But what I have thought is to become an engineer but then continue my masters in a field that will allow me to do research,which is what REALLY interests me.This way my parents will be happy as well as myself . Anyways thats the profession thing .

Regarding the current situation . You're saying that you have interests in liberal arts and social sciences but you're told that they don't have much space in the profession world.Well tbh,I haven't really RESEARCHED in particular regarding this but I would honestly suggest you to google it abit about it and see what jobs you can land on by doing these degrees and then seeing that are there such jobs available in Pakistan ? Because tbh here I can see 3 professions being really chosen .Doctor,Engineering,Businessman and I think there are already ALOT of people doing them so correct me if i'm wrong ,there might not be that many vacancies in such areas either .You will see elite class kids also studying social sciences,they will obviously land a job too won't they ? What you actually need is career advice atm .

For now,what I would suggest is that,you should not ruin your present,by worrying about the future 'So much" . Ofcourse you should have an aim in life but right now you're wasting so much time thinking what to do about your future that you're wasiting the time you could use to improve yourself.The thing is,it's never too late.You still have time to leave your friends behind,rishtedaar and stuff and start studying . The Education and academics is here to solve your confusion in stuff like maths etc . And yes I believe you're in a difficult situation since you're teachers aren't that encouraging etc but then without such challenges,life would be boring . The good thing is that you have realised you're mistake and the stage you're in . The next step is to take action and solve it .
 
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