Admirable CGPA, but is this enough?

[emkay992]

I'm a student of BS (CS) currently enrolled in my third semester from a private-public partnership campus of a University in a remote area, My current CGPA is 3.78 and by the end of my final term (3rd semester) I'm hoping to reach 3.88. Previously, i have done O & A'Levels, scoring 65% and 68% respectively. I'll come right to the point, is migration to any HEC recognized university possible? Since my campus is not yet recognized, the management says it will get recognized in a few months but i can't risk it. Furthermore, if it can't be done and i have no choice but to continue studying here, how many of chances do i have against the ones coming from polished institutes like FAST-NU/COMSATS etc.
Thank you

 

[Alienator]

I think you should immediately get admission in an institute which is recognized by HEC. Please don't waste your time...you'll face allot of difficulties in continuing further studies if your previous degree is not accredited by HEC.

 

[emkay992]

[MENTION=127006]Alienator[/MENTION]
Recently, some members from HEC have visited the campus. so if it gets recognized by the end of my program that's fine? I mean, will I be fine in the future when I'll have to take on grads from top ranked Uni's? :O

 

[KnightRider]

HEC accredition is overrated and is only important if you are looking for a job in government sector. Private companies dnt care abt ur degree as long as you are good enough to do the required job.

If you want to take continue education then you can personally get a letter from HEC that your program is being evaluated and thus can apply to whatever degree/program in any university.

JUST FOCUS ON PRACTISING AND IMPROVING YOUR PROGRAMMING SKILLS.

 

[babarhyd]

HEC accredition is overrated and is only important if you are looking for a job in government sector. Private companies dnt care abt ur degree as long as you are good enough to do the required job.

If you want to take continue education then you can personally get a letter from HEC that your program is being evaluated and thus can apply to whatever degree/program in any university.

JUST FOCUS ON PRACTISING AND IMPROVING YOUR PROGRAMMING SKILLS.

The only government authority to evaluate your degree is HEC. And you are saying to ignore it just because petty private one room organizations don't care? Are you really serious? Please do not give advices if you don't known shyt about anything.

@Op better talk with ur current univ administration or else refund the whole fees you spent plus damages to your career a solid case in court in my opinion. Your bachelors degree should be recognized by HEC else you won't be considered a bachelor not in this country nor in any other. No you cannot transfer your credits to HEC accredited Institute at this point because your whole coursework is not recognized.

 

[crazygamer]

I'm a student of BS (CS) currently enrolled in my third semester from a private-public partnership campus of a University in a remote area, My current CGPA is 3.78 and by the end of my final term (3rd semester) I'm hoping to reach 3.88. Previously, i have done O & A'Levels, scoring 65% and 68% respectively. I'll come right to the point, is migration to any HEC recognized university possible? Since my campus is not yet recognized, the management says it will get recognized in a few months but i can't risk it. Furthermore, if it can't be done and i have no choice but to continue studying here, how many of chances do i have against the ones coming from polished institutes like FAST-NU/COMSATS etc.
Thank you

bro is your called NAMAL COLLEGE UNIVERISTY ,MIANWALI.? WHY DO YOU WANT TO TRANSFER / MIGRATE AS YOUR INSTITIUTE AS FAR AS I KNOW GIVES BRADFORD UNVERSITY DEGREE plz correct me if i am wrong

 

[khanorak]

HEC accredition is overrated and is only important if you are looking for a job in government sector. Private companies dnt care abt ur degree as long as you are good enough to do the required job.

If you want to take continue education then you can personally get a letter from HEC that your program is being evaluated and thus can apply to whatever degree/program in any university.

JUST FOCUS ON PRACTISING AND IMPROVING YOUR PROGRAMMING SKILLS.

That's some seriously non-serious advice anyone would give.

Recently, I was offered a Job in UAE from a private employer (I am a Civil Engineer). The first thing they would ask me to do is get your degree Verified from HEC, Foreign Office and UAE embassy. The base of verification is HEC. How can you say that it is not important? Not everyone is Geohot or whatever that kid was.

@OP. Boy, it might be worth some wait but I concur with someone above that you shouldn't waste your time around. So calculate the chances of your institute getting recognized anytime soon.

 

[KnightRider]

The only government authority to evaluate your degree is HEC. And you are saying to ignore it just because petty private one room organizations don't care? Are you really serious? Please do not give advices if you don't known shyt about anything.

@Op better talk with ur current univ administration or else refund the whole fees you spent plus damages to your career a solid case in court in my opinion. Your bachelors degree should be recognized by HEC else you won't be considered a bachelor not in this country nor in any other. No you cannot transfer your credits to HEC accredited Institute at this point because your whole coursework is not recognized.

[MENTION=24857]babarhyd[/MENTION] You are asking the guy not to waste time studying there but you want him to waste his time/energy in court? FYI I am not talking about just startups but also companies like Nestle, Engro, Fauji Fertilizers, Pepsi Co, Coca Cola, Microsoft, Google, Intel, PlumGrid etc. Need I say more?
[MENTION=46566]khanorak[/MENTION] Since he is doing CS degree so I am advising him according to my experience. I am sure what you are saying is true but when it comes to CS jobs, you just need to know how to program and engineer a software.

 

[babarhyd]

[MENTION=24857]babarhyd[/MENTION] You are asking the guy not to waste time studying there but you want him to waste his time/energy in court? FYI I am not talking about just startups but also companies like Nestle, Engro, Fauji Fertilizers, Pepsi Co, Coca Cola, Microsoft, Google, Intel, PlumGrid etc. Need I say more?
[MENTION=46566]khanorak[/MENTION] Since he is doing CS degree so I am advising him according to my experience. I am sure what you are saying is true but when it comes to CS jobs, you just need to know how to program and engineer a software.

Fighting for your right is NOT waste of time. And I know all these companies from inside out and they do ask for degrees heck engro asked for verified one even. Don't be naive and post suggestions which are against laws or ethics.

 

[KnightRider]

[MENTION=24857]babarhyd[/MENTION] Kid, are you in your senses? Don't assume things. I never said they don't require a degree. I said private multinational companies don't care about "HEC accredition" anymore. But again you would know that only if you knew about tech dept of any of the company I mentioned.

 

[babarhyd]

[MENTION=24857]babarhyd[/MENTION] Kid, are you in your senses? Don't assume things. I never said they don't require a degree. I said private multinational companies don't care about "HEC accredition" anymore. But again you would know that only if you knew about tech dept of any of the company I mentioned.

Yeah, I don't know . I will say again don't and don't recommend universities or programs which are NOT HEC accredited.

 

[KnightRider]

[MENTION=24857]babarhyd[/MENTION] I give up. You need to stop assuming when arguing with someone. If you are still studying then you would understand what I am saying after you graduate.

 

[babarhyd]

[MENTION=24857]babarhyd[/MENTION] I give up. You need to stop assuming when arguing with someone. If you are still studying then you would understand what I am saying after you graduate.

Yup I am still studying and will never go with program or university without HEC or PEC accreditations.

 

[silverknife]

@babarhyd I give up. You need to stop assuming when arguing with someone. If you are still studying then you would understand what I am saying after you graduate.

Babar bhai is already a graduate and lecturer in university :3

 

[silverknife]

There's no such thing as admirable CGPA. Even 4 CGPA is not admirable as it only shows how good you are at memorizing things rather than understanding them. As per me, the appreciable CGPA is around 3.5 as you wont be challenging for someone or wont be dull.

If you really think you can defend something above 3.8 in job interview then you are seriously day dreaming.

P.S even 3 CGPA from a HEC recognized university is more admirable then 3.8 from the university that is not recognized. I suggest the OP to only consider opinion of those posters who know something about education and know the process.

 

[fayaz88]

HEC accredition is overrated and is only important if you are looking for a job in government sector. Private companies dnt care abt ur degree as long as you are good enough to do the required job.

If you want to take continue education then you can personally get a letter from HEC that your program is being evaluated and thus can apply to whatever degree/program in any university.

JUST FOCUS ON PRACTISING AND IMPROVING YOUR PROGRAMMING SKILLS.

STOP MISGUIDING PEOPLE! All engineers require PEC registration and PEC registration requires that you graduate from an HEC recognized university. Without PEC you have no chance of getting a job at big companies. Also, with these certificates, he would be assured that whatever jobs he applies to, at least he won't be disqualified on the basis of his degree.

@OP: If your university is not recognized, stop wasting your time. Management maybe bullshitting you. You never know. And even if it did get recognized, it won't even come close to being as good as established institutes like NUST and FAST.

Nobody would even look at your GPA if your university is not HEC recognized. And I don't think universities like FAST and NUST would even accept a transfer (with our without HEC considering your university is unknown. They may accept transfers from good universities only)

My advise is to get yourself out of there and get admission, even it be a government uni, but it should be HEC approved and renown. Uni's name matters a WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOUR GPA. [/bitter-truth]

 

[KnightRider]

STOP MISGUIDING PEOPLE! All engineers require PEC registration and PEC registration requires that you graduate from an HEC recognized university. Without PEC you have no chance of getting a job at big companies. Also, with these certificates, he would be assured that whatever jobs he applies to, at least he won't be disqualified on the basis of his degree.

@OP: If your university is not recognized, stop wasting your time. Management maybe bullshitting you. You never know. And even if it did get recognized, it won't even come close to being as good as established institutes like NUST and FAST.

Nobody would even look at your GPA if your university is not HEC recognized. And I don't think universities like FAST and NUST would even accept a transfer (with our without HEC considering your university is unknown. They may accept transfers from good universities only)

My advise is to get yourself out of there and get admission, even it be a government uni, but it should be HEC approved and renown. Uni's name matters a WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOUR GPA. [/bitter-truth]

@fayaz88 @babarhyd @khanorak Anyone commenting on this thread has CS background or experience of looking for a job in software industry? I don't know what is required when you apply for a job as an electrical, mechanical or civil engineer etc. But I can certainly tell you what is or isn't required to land a job as a software developer/engineerand HEC/PEC recognition isn't one of them. Anyone commenting on this thread should remember @emkay222 is enrolled in CS program.

 

[StrikerX]

@fayaz88 @babarhyd @khanorak Anyone commenting on this thread has CS background or experience of looking for a job in software industry? I don't know what is required when you apply for a job as an electrical, mechanical or civil engineer etc. But I can certainly tell you what is or isn't required to land a job as a software developer/engineerand HEC/PEC recognition isn't one of them. Anyone commenting on this thread should remember @emkay222 is enrolled in CS program.

[MENTION=1054]Shyber[/MENTION] [MENTION=31410]mhaqs[/MENTION]

 

[mhaqs]

I don't know why people like to generalize behaviors, and how the industry works. You should prefer a recognized university, and that's that. There's many reasons behind it; for example, German and european work permit (probably most foreign countries) require that your degree be comparable to that of their educational system. They will "not" give you a work permit or a visa without verifying that. Foreign bodies like ENIC-NARIC are associated with national bodies like HEC for verifying your credentials for educational or work purposes.

Now, as far as the argument for accredition and recognition in the local job market goes. Some companies like to take up the case of looking at your qualifications and GPA score, others don't. It differs. You can't generalize stuff based on your own experiences. You should always try to keep your record straight, don't be lazy. I am not talking about your GPA or taking your education seriously (you should), but being organized in life.

I've seen the best in the industry with a 2.3 CGPA and others with 3.9. I've seen people with no university degree at all beat those with a overarching qualifications and certificates. Again, no generalization. Keep heading your way and be vigilant about it.

 

[venom 20]

Bro,
I have recently finished my engineering and i must say that, from my experience, HEC recognition is must and PEC is important but not necessary since you can get PEC registration by taking a test after graduation. If that uni is not HEC recognized get yourself out of there dont waste a single minute since you wont be able to apply job in any registered organization and your degree wont be considered towards your qualification in other countries since they require the degree to be attested by local authorities. Period