MULTI Cyberpunk 2077 - Base game + Phantom Liberty sales cross 30 million copies!

CerebralTiger · Mar 23, 2022

Holy sh*t @ thinking I just discovered the state of Cyberpunk's first-person character model, when I was the one who shared a video about it in this very thread some time after the game launched. Hilarious

Necrokiller said:
All of which to give us the best first person perspective in any video game to date.

And why on earth would I give a damn about the opinion of a Santa Monica studio artist. Ewww.

Wasn't Cory Barlog seen defending the game and the studio at launch? Not a good look

Necrokiller · Mar 23, 2022

Imagine thinking reflection is more important than first person gameplay and interactions in a first person game. Kya jhakk mara hai Cologne mein?

Hahahahaha Little Prince "designer" thinks he knows more than a Senior Tech Animator at SSM.

CerebralTiger · Mar 23, 2022

Regardless of how much more he knows than me, I simply don't care about SSM or anyone working there to give two cents about their opinion

And then came Cyberpunk. Made by the guys that made Witcher 3, so this shit had to be good. Here's our Cyberpunk universe and - trust us - you can do fucking everything! Here the entire CDPR PR department took all the cues from what worked for Molyneux and Murray and just went completely apeshit with it. Gamers were to believe that this is "Sci-Fi GTA in First Person". What's not to love? Every video released by CDPR was carefully crafted to create a picture in players minds that was just insanely compelling. They stopped just short of outright saying that this thing would cure cancer. This strategy resulted in a sensational 8 million pre-orders. What happened then was this:

. The product was a fraction of what the developer hyped it up to be and on top of that it barely even ran on consoles that it was supposed to 'run surprisingly well on!'.

Why are gamers so eager to trust and even forgive the snake oil salesmen?

This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I get kinda riled up about it every time I see it unfold. And every time it keeps happening, people keep falling for it... It all started with Molyneux. He was the master of 'Instead of telling you what my product is, let me just go...

www.resetera.com

Now, as a fan of Ori, argue against this

Radical · Mar 23, 2022

CerebralTiger said:
Is that why PS5 performed better than the Series X version? DF should investigate

I am sure Df would have noticed missing wet roads on the PS5 in their initial PS5/SX comparison coverage.

I think CDPR added wet roads exclusively in the PS5 version now. Assbox might still be missing them.

CerebralTiger · Mar 23, 2022

You're probably right, though it's really surprising that it wasn't added to Xbox as well. Maybe in the next update.

Necrokiller · Mar 23, 2022

CerebralTiger said:
Why are gamers so eager to trust and even forgive the snake oil salesmen?

This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I get kinda riled up about it every time I see it unfold. And every time it keeps happening, people keep falling for it... It all started with Molyneux. He was the master of 'Instead of telling you what my product is, let me just go...

www.resetera.com

Now, as a fan of Ori, argue against this

Moon Studios’ “oppressive” culture could have affected Microsoft’s decision to not work with Ori devs again | Game World Observer

Moon Studios, a 100% remote team known for the critically acclaimed Ori series, has been accused of toxic workplace culture. The mismanagement reportedly resulted in mental health problems for employees and could have become the reason for Microsoft to part ways with the studio.

gameworldobserver.com

How about that?

This is like Neil Druckman giving a Ted Talk on healthy studio culture in an echo chamber LMAOO

CerebralTiger · Mar 23, 2022

Thomas Mahler was talking about the quality of the game though, not the studio culture at CDPR (which is equally as bad)

Necrokiller · Mar 24, 2022

Awesome! More devs need to implement this preset.

CerebralTiger · Mar 24, 2022

And what's performance like on the Steam Deck with this preset? A video of driving and such with a frame time graph overlay would be welcome

Major Aly · Mar 24, 2022

CerebralTiger said:
And what's performance like on the Steam Deck with this preset? A video of driving and such with a frame time graph overlay would be welcome

*the other party has left the chat*

CerebralTiger · Mar 25, 2022

Let's have a look at the PS5 version's reviews and see if there are any issues that wouldn't apply to the PC version

PLAY - 6 / 10

Despite significant technical and in-play improvements for this PS5 version, much of the game’s core remains unchanged. Quest design and storytelling, though not without their moments on the critical path, too often feel rife with unrealised potential. Cyberpunk 2077’s abrasive personality is still clear as day too, inescapable in its script and blaring out from Night City’s many questionable billboards. If you choose to venture into Night City, we hope you find what you’re looking for. [Issue#12, p.72]

GamingBolt - 6 / 10

Still a deeply flawed game that needs major reworking to come close to making good on its pre-launch promises.

Push Square - 8 / 10

So, Cyberpunk is a much improved experience on PS5, basically across the board — but if you were left feeling short-changed on PS4, beyond the technical issues and cardboard open world, then you should note that this is still the same game. The main story still seems a bit stunted at times, and the role-playing options at your disposal can feel disappointingly limited.

Noisy Pixel - 8 / 10

The truth is that this is the state this game should have initially been released in. Further, it should have only launched on next-generation consoles, to begin with. Instead, Cyberpunk’s developers have spent the last year and a half working on a game that had already been released, rather than one that could still be broken and fixed internally. Much of what the game still is today is indicative of a title that was rushed out long before it was fully formed.

Jeuxvideo.com - 8.5 / 10

But beyond these technical considerations, if patch 1.5 brings some welcome adjustments (more responsive crowd, improved but still perfectible driving and ergonomics...), the title remains globally identical to the PC version despite a less impressive visual rendering. More than a year after its release, Cyberpunk 2077 remains an RPG with a fascinating universe and impeccable writing that remains plagued by immersion-breaking bugs and an artificial intelligence that falls short.

Digital Chumps - 8.6 / 10

Now is the right time to play this game; I’m not saying it’s flawless and perfect, but it’s nearly so, for such an elaborate, massive game. This is the game we were hoping for back in December 2020, but I’m reminded of the adage ‘better late than never.’ And that certainly applies here.

RPG Fan - 8.7 / 10

Inexcusable technical troubles, the game handles its lore and transgender representation poorly, progression systems can be overwhelming and warrant a tutorial.

Don't see any issues mentioned in the reviews that don't apply to the PC version as well, but there are improvements over the PC version at launch, making the Metascore of this updated version the one to take into account

Necrokiller · Mar 25, 2022

I mean, some of these reviewers only reviewed the console version, so the game not living upto the PC version exactly highlights why these reviews are specific to consoles

CerebralTiger · Mar 25, 2022

But no one said it didn't live up to the PC version (outside of visuals, but that's never been a reason to drop scores). As a matter of fact, a few mentioned improvements over the launch PC version. How did you even come to that conclusion?

Necrokiller · Mar 25, 2022

CerebralTiger said:
But no one said it didn't live up to the PC version

I mean, the scores are enough to convey that

CerebralTiger · Mar 25, 2022

Lmaooo @ ignoring the text that led to these scores

The game has aged poorly. That's what those scores and their accompanied text convey (not that it was a success story to begin with)

Necrokiller · Mar 25, 2022

CerebralTiger said:
Lmaooo @ ignoring the text that led to these scores

Says the single biggest Metacritic fan on PG. YIKES!

PC pe to age hi nahi hui.

CerebralTiger · Mar 25, 2022

The core game, regardless of version and performance issues, has aged poorly according to these reviews. PC version mein wall run aur mantis blades se wall climb kar saktay hain kya?

Necrokiller · Mar 25, 2022

PC version didn't need to be reviewed again, as it always the best place to play the game. The score is still valid

CerebralTiger · Mar 25, 2022

Issooooue core game ke saath hai. PC version bhi wohi game hai with better graphics

Necrokiller · Mar 25, 2022

I mean, you gotta take your issoooooues with Metacritic's methodology to them. Series X pe to 87 hai, 2 critic difference is hardly a decisive one

MULTI Cyberpunk 2077 - Base game + Phantom Liberty sales cross 30 million copies!

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