Azadi march lookout thread - PTI calls off dharna

A request to all those PG members who are dragging Pervez Musharraf into this that if you want to discuss about him and his tenure then please discuss it in some other thread. This is not for that IMHO. I personally am Anti Musharraf but I haven't posted a single post about him. Please discuss him only if it's relevant.

ubuntu83 said:

A request to all those PG members who are dragging Pervez Musharraf into this that if you want to discuss about him and his tenure then please discuss it in some other thread. This is not for that IMHO. I personally am Anti Musharraf but I haven't posted a single post about him. Please discuss him only if it's relevant.

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Today he issued an statement that he fully support this inqilab march of TUQ and ordered his APML workers to join TUQ march. So his personality is very much relevant to this thread

Distress said:

Don't forget 11 may 2007. Musharaf statement in ISB jalsa "AAJ hum na karachi ma taqat ka muzahira kiya ha"
Do u find any similar statement from Nawaz sharif?
TUQ saying Shareef brothers r killers, thugs etc etc but all his allies were part of 11 may 2007. MQM was in sindh govt and played a major role in 11 may 2007 incident. PML Q was in federal Govt Shiekh Rasheed was minister of the same govt and Pervaiz elahi was CM of biggest province of PAK and everything was carried out on instructions of President Musharaf. What a joke? yehi Inqilaab ha:mushy:

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Im not sure what point ur making tbh as im not a TUQ supporter nor am i here to defend MQMs role in 11th May 2007
Also what Pervaiz Elahi being CM of Punjab have to do with anything happening in Karachi? Or Rasheed being Minister?

Again im not defending Musharraf but if u want to hang him for extra judicial killing then put Nawaz Sharif in the same line

hasanJ said:

Im not sure what point ur making tbh as im not a TUQ supporter nor am i here to defend MQMs role in 11th May 2007
Also what Pervaiz Elahi being CM of Punjab have to do with anything happening in Karachi? Or Rasheed being Minister?

Again im not defending Musharraf but if u want to hang him for extra judicial killing then put Nawaz Sharif in the same line

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Sheikh Rasheed was a federal minister and federal ministers are accountable for every govt action. What I want to say is that same faces r now bringing inqilaab and condemning Nawaz sharif for brutal actions while they did same things in 2007. Somehow I got an idea that u r Pro TUQ Inqilaab march so ignore my post if you don't support TUQ inqilaab

Media is split between n league and PTI

ARY,Express,Dunya etc Pro PTI

Geo,Aaj,PTV and many others pro N league.

I m ready for dictatorship please make it possible.

Distress said:

Sheikh Rasheed was a federal minister and federal ministers are accountable for every govt action. What I want to say is that same faces r now bringing inqilaab and condemning Nawaz sharif for brutal actions while they did same things in 2007. Somehow I got an idea that u r Pro TUQ Inqilaab march so ignore my post if you don't support TUQ inqilaab

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Sheikh Rasheed is just there for comedic value as its purely and entirely a PTI March so Cigar Baba is irrelevant

As for TUQ even if you and me dont support him his cause has value as civilians were brutally killed by Police Fire
In any developed country many resignations would have been carried out but in the land of Gullucracy, Sharif Courts and indifferent civilians that wont happen

@Distress

I can shoot down your arguments against Musharraf easily but let us focus on mandates of PTI and PAT and not branch off in other directions.

hasanJ said:

Sheikh Rasheed is just there for comedic value as its purely and entirely a PTI March so Cigar Baba is irrelevant

As for TUQ even if you and me dont support him his cause has value as civilians were brutally killed by Police Fire
In any developed country many resignations would have been carried out but in the land of Gullucracy, Sharif Courts and indifferent civilians that wont happen

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Did I mention PTI azadi march in any of my post? I m specifically talking about TUQ inqilaab March. I support IK demands except PM resignation. When I see Sheikh rasheed ch brothers mqm Musharaf in TUQ camp then I can't support his cause
As for TUQ cause It is true that model town incident is very tragic and sad and Killers must b punished but his inqalibi agenda isn't solely based on these 14 killings. Even before model town incident he was talking about destroying Sharif govt and bringing revolution in pak. He clearly announce his agenda to remove this failed democratic system and bringing revolution in pak. Which civilians were brutally killed before model town incident? Why was he threatening NS govt? He is trying to cash the killings nothing else

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LeGenD123 said:

@Distress

I can shoot down your arguments against Musharraf easily but let us focus on mandates of PTI and PAT and not branch off in other directions.

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I would like to see my arguments shot down solely on killing part.

Distress said:

Did I mention PTI azadi march in any of my post? I m specifically talking about TUQ inqilaab March. I support IK demands except PM resignation
As for TUQ cause It is true that model town incident is very tragic and sad and Killers must b punished but his inqalibi agenda isn't solely based on these 14 killings. Even before model town incident he was talking about destroying Sharif govt and bringing revolution in pak. He clearly announce his agenda to remove this failed democratic system and bringing revolution in pak. Which civilians were brutally killed before model town incident? Why was he threatening NS govt? He is trying to cash the killings nothing else

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PAT manifesto:

1. Every homeless will be given a home. Every homeless family will be given 3/5 marla residential plot for free. They would be given interest-free loans for the construction of these houses which would be returnable from 20 to 25 years. Those families, who do not have financial means to return these loans, would be handed over keys of constructed houses.
2. Every person would be given employment or employment allowance. The youth would be helped in career counseling and planning for their jobs. The practice of making them beggars, indebted or loan defaulters would be discouraged and discontinued.
3. Those having monthly income of less than Rs. 15,000/20,000 would pay half of the real amount on flour, rice, milk, cooking oil, sugar, and plain clothes.
4. All taxes will be eliminated from the gas, water and electricity bills for lower middle class and they would be required to pay half of the exact amount of these utilities.
5. Official insurance scheme would be introduced and the poor would get free medical treatment.
6. Education up to matriculation will be free and the parents would not be able to keep their children deprived of education. The students desirous of higher education would be given opportunities to do so and their admission will be ensured as per merit.
7. Pakistan’s total area is 200 million acres. Out of which 100 million acre is cultivable. The half of this land is under private ownership while the remaining 50 million acres would be distributed among the poor.
8. Sectarianism, terrorism and extremism will be eliminated. Ten thousand peace training centres will be opened for training of the people. Syllabi of religious seminaries would be revised and amended.
9. The women will be given opportunities for respectable employment in the form of domestic industrial units. They will be given complete socio-economic security by doing away with discriminatory laws.
10. Disparity in the pay structures of all senior and junior public and private sector employees will be minimized to possible extent.

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Source: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri's 10 points of revolutionary manifesto - Minhaj-ul-Quran International

LeGenD123 said:

PAT manifesto:



Source: Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri's 10 points of revolutionary manifesto - Minhaj-ul-Quran International

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Every tom dick and harry can claim he will give such and such benefits but how? It would be much better if he can explain how such goals will be achieved Where is his financial team? Does he know anything about budgeting financial planning and current resources?

Distress said:

Every tom dick and harry can claim he will give such and such benefits but how? It would be much better if he can explain how such goals will be achieved Where is his financial team? Does he know anything about budgeting financial planning and current resources?

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Dr. Qadri is a highly educated man, do not underestimate his knowledge. The applicability of these demands will be discussed with current government.

Well just bringing in the money that shareef looters are hiding in their swiss accounts would be a good start as its all stolen from our nation.

ryu696 said:

Well just bringing in the money that shareef looters are hiding in their swiss accounts would be a good start as its all stolen from our nation.

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Lolz

UPDATE: 12,800 vehicles are involved in Azadi March on GT road with Imran Khan, my god.

IK ko defend karnay ki samjh ati hai Ye Qadri saheb ki defending ki waja kya hai HE GOT CANADIAN PASSPORT aur badalnay chalay hain Pakistan.

IN HATE OF N LEAGUE PTI will defend every lalo panjo its sad to see.

Bro call him watever u like atleast mulk ka paisa tu chori nahee kerta na.Sharif brothers ne tu sharafat ka naam kharab ker dia hay

I will call him what he is this man openly encouraged anarchy,killings of police officials hate speeches and what not on LIVE TV.

HE DONT BELIEVE IN CONSTITUTION hence inqlaab ka nara.

DO I NEED MORE WORDS TO DESCRIBE WHAT HE IS ? Atleast IK is in boundaries of constitution thats why other political parties are listening to him.

genious said:

I will call him what he is this man openly encouraged anarchy,killings of police officials hate speeches and what not on LIVE TV.

HE DONT BELIEVE IN CONSTITUTION hence inqlaab ka nara.

DO I NEED MORE WORDS TO DESCRIBE WHAT HE IS ? Atleast IK is in boundaries of constitution thats why other political parties are listening to him.

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Dr. Qadri didn't call for jihad before the killings. Give the guy some break, his supporters have been killed and many put in jail with blatant violation of human rights and constitution by so-called democratic leadership.

PAT represents voice of a segment of population which does not have representatives in the parliament but still have rights and cannot be overlooked.

Why do you think that Punjab police decided against stopping the mobilization of inqalabi movement?

1. Situation could go out of hand
2. Back-stabbing politics of PML(N) goons, Police demanded written orders from the government to carry out orders.

Not surprisingly, PML(N) had no option but to watch the mobilization from distance. Pathetic cowards.

What Shahbaz Shareef did in model town was constitution?Stopping a Quran Khani is constitution?Gulu Butt marching along our police and hitting cars is in boundries?open your eyes brother.

LeGenD123 said:

Dr. Qadri didn't call for jihad before the killings. Give the guy some break, his supporters have been killed and many put in jail with blatant violation of human rights and constitution.

PAT represents voice of the people who do not have representatives in the parliament but they still have rights and cannot be overlooked.

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Ye dead bodies ko kaab tak cash karwanay ka iraada hai qadri saheb ka everyone knows.Aur iss banday ko agar free hand day diya jaye tou ye pakistan ko libya aur iraq banwa day ga.

Aur hate speech ko JIHAD ka naam maat do agar iss tarha honay lag gya tou aik gali main sunni dosri main shia ki hakomatain ho ge.This guy used ISLAM where ever he needs to get his work done and thats THE WORST KIND OF HUMAN BEINGS IMO who use religion to further their agenda.

He will go back to canada once this drama is over.

ryu696 said:

What Shahbaz Shareef did in model town was constitution?Stopping a Quran Khani is constitution?Gulu Butt marching along our police and hitting cars is in boundries?open your eyes brother.

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PTI walay a gaye ho na roads par march lay kar dekhtay hai kya hota hai.IK clearly states he want resignation of PM he better get it if not than IK is a liar and backtracker and no good than others u r mentioning.