women rights

[marium]

what do u think that women should have equal rights as the men or should thre b some diffrnce?

 

[AbbY]

Who wants to bet me this dude is a man/boy/male in disguise, probably an existing member, and has chosen a female name to post such topics and attract th*rki's attention

 

[Jshak]

Rights of woman in what sense? If you are talking about the motherhood, then it is nearly impossible. If you talking about competition of work force, then it is right. A woman has the right to degree herself for bringing up the new generations.

If you are talking about that old label " A woman can do anything what a man can do " ... That is not possible.

Man cannot do certain things what a woman has rights for....

 

[iNF3RN0]

Who wants to bet me this dude is a man/boy/male in disguise, probably an existing member, and has chosen a female name to post such topics and attract th*rki's attention

Warning: Stick with the topic otherwise don't reply.

@OP: yeah I think there should be equal rights for the women but in accordance with the cultural and Islamic boundaries defined by Holy Quran and our prophet Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH).

I don't support the vulgarity on the name of freedom which is pretty common these days among our women, we are getting more western and have forgotten our real roles and values.

 

[Ali Man]

@OP: yeah I think there should be equal rights for the women but in accordance with the cultural and Islamic boundaries defined by Holy Quran and our prophet Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH).

I don't support the vulgarity on the name of freedom which is pretty common these days among our women, we are getting more western and have forgotten our real roles and values.

Agreed, and i think unlike before, its all changed now and women do have a bit more freedom of speech in most part's of the world.
However, I can't speak for Pakistan (only because of the illiteracy rate being too high which includes big boys running the country)

It would nearly be impossible to follow exactly how our religion wants us to act, do and be, but all of what people can do is try to come as close to it
as possible.

 

[AbbY]

On topic,

Yes. They should.

However, the way the women are using this ending discrimination, it's deplorable.

Let me give you an example.

Medical schools. Many many boys, who will complete their medicine and actually imply it, aren't given the seats because of many women who are doing medicine merely to get a good rishta. Here the clause implies as a direct inverse of itself, to be honest.

But, yes. They should have equal opportunities, which I see the world, or Pakistan atleast, tipping towards.

Having said that, I honestly oppose the 'westernisation' our culture is inbreeding. It's ridiculous.

 

[brightside]

The government needs to encourage maximum female participation in the labor force. Pakistan does not have oil or other huge natural resources relative to our massive population, so we can never become a developed country without the participation of women. Also, there is the saying that 'educate a man, you educate an individual. Educate a girl, you educate a family'.

 

[coolsaad141]

Women cannot have rights equal to men in accordance of Islam. They are way different. Each has it's own duties and rights. But the way the western trend is going for women right awareness, it's not far we see men asking for their rights.

 

[GrunT]

The government needs to encourage maximum female participation in the labor force. Pakistan does not have oil or other huge natural resources relative to our massive population, so we can never become a developed country without the participation of women. Also, there is the saying that 'educate a man, you educate an individual. Educate a girl, you educate a family'.

its not the responsibility of the government, its the responsibility of the women's family to encourage her to do work.If you take Abbys example, you will see that there are a lot more women compared to men in medical colleges but when it comes to practice, there are a lot more men than women just because most women get married and never work again.Considering the current economic conditions of Pakistan, it is extremely important for women to work but the only other people who can help in this regard are the religious scholars but they are strictly against it.

 

[mafiadog]

I'm a strong opposer of women rights! I believe they have more rights than men in every arena of life. Look around you , from family to courts, in wars and at peace - only men suffers. Men are being tormented and sidelined in a ridiculous call to Women rights. It's has become like money, the more you get the more you desire. They have surpassed men long ago in their 'struggle' for 'rights'. It is time that men should stand up and don't let this turn into the 'rise of the planet of the women'. So do you all agree men should have same rights as women?

Menenist movement ftw! Stop making korma out of us ! (that's what she said).

 

[Newton]

The government needs to encourage maximum female participation in the labor force. Pakistan does not have oil or other huge natural resources relative to our massive population, so we can never become a developed country without the participation of women. Also, there is the saying that 'educate a man, you educate an individual. Educate a girl, you educate a family'.

dude Pakistan has some of the richest mineral deposits in the world including oil!

I just think that in a society men and women both should feel free to pursue their goals and both should know and keep in mind the social, moral and religious boundaries and norms. Keep one thing in mind, the drum beaters of women empowerment (westerners) themselves have so many issues with their society just because they lack the social boundaries to keep everyone in his/her role. So i say yes feel free to do what you want but remember your obligations to your family, society, religion and yourself

 

[Lord Ammar]

You know what I hate, women Abuses will lead to ban and whine about how they dont get equal rights, but when you're in a bank queue, they always get to be the first in line even if they came last! Similarly in all other cases like this its always 'baji pehle ap a jaen'. Another example is when some idiotic female driver crashes, no one creates a fuss because it's a 'woman'! Equal rights my ass!

 

[Ali Man]

You know what I hate, women Abuses will lead to ban and whine about how they dont get equal rights, but when you're in a bank queue, they always get to be the first in line even if they came last! Similarly in all other cases like this its always 'baji pehle ap a jaen'. Another example is when some idiotic female driver crashes, no one creates a fuss because it's a 'woman'! Equal rights my ass!

If you were a girl, I wouldn't mind kicking your ass for sure

Put yourself in their shoes and then play the game. You'd just be disgusted by the fact that a million guys would stare at you each time you leave the house.

- A female being a bad driver (In pakistan) doesn't mean that she shouldn't have any lesser rights.
And its actually a good thing in pakistan for people to act with care if a women driver has a car accident rather than acting "Jahil" when a guy does that.

 

[Lord Ammar]

Deal with it then. If they want equal rights then they should suck it up and deal with it. EQUALITY doesn't come with terms and conditions.

 

[gameon]

What rights can be given to the weak gender in a part of the world where might is right.

 

[brightside]

its not the responsibility of the government, its the responsibility of the women's family to encourage her to do work.If you take Abbys example, you will see that there are a lot more women compared to men in medical colleges but when it comes to practice, there are a lot more men than women just because most women get married and never work again.Considering the current economic conditions of Pakistan, it is extremely important for women to work but the only other people who can help in this regard are the religious scholars but they are strictly against it.

It is the government's responsibility to encourage a change in the mindset of the nation. The government can effectively change mindsets by giving economic incentives to women workers, making laws that increase women's participation in the labor force etc. There are many examples of government's forcing change in their countries through legislation and policy.

dude Pakistan has some of the richest mineral deposits in the world including oil!

This is why I said relative to population. Canada and Australia have natural resources, but their population is much smaller than Pakistan. We are an overpopulated country, which is why we are poor. We are an agricultural country instead of an advanced industrial economy. We do not have much oil, if any. The amount of proven oil reserves is quite small. The Arab countries can live with wealth despite their women not participating much at the office because they have oil.

I just think that in a society men and women both should feel free to pursue their goals and both should know and keep in mind the social, moral and religious boundaries and norms. Keep one thing in mind, the drum beaters of women empowerment (westerners) themselves have so many issues with their society just because they lack the social boundaries to keep everyone in his/her role. So i say yes feel free to do what you want but remember your obligations to your family, society, religion and yourself

You are saying this, and I hear a lot of people saying this. Then these same people regularly watch Bollywood films and love songs such as Sheila ki Jawani, Munni Badnaam Hui etc. They worship Indian culture, and talk about women remaining within religious boundaries. I've never seen a country as confused and hypocritical as Pakistan.

The English speaking elite of Pakistan is highly westernized, the middle classes love Indian culture, and the poor are on the other extreme, often having sympathies with extremist ideologies which I don't think truly represent Islam. Nobody in this country wants an Islamic society, that is quite clearly evident, despite the answer people will give when asked if Pakistan should be a modern Islamic society.

You know what I hate, women Abuses will lead to ban and whine about how they dont get equal rights, but when you're in a bank queue, they always get to be the first in line even if they came last! Similarly in all other cases like this its always 'baji pehle ap a jaen'. Another example is when some idiotic female driver crashes, no one creates a fuss because it's a 'woman'! Equal rights my ass!

This does not happen in western countries. Everything there is irrelevant to your gender.

 

[Lord Ammar]

I know it doesn't happen in western countries. Women do get equal rights there for the most part but they also deal with the shit that comes with it.

 

[Crow]

Women have the right to make me dinner and iron my clothes. They also have the right to dress like a phantom, and never talk loudly and never look me in the eyes. Srsly what more do they need...

This is an insanely long winded debate, I would respond with a serious reply but I foresee a future of this thread in the trashbin and I'm not going to convince anyone here anyway, i.e. not worth the effort.

 

[Ali Man]

Well guys, I've come to a Fact of a Conclusion relating to Pakistan.


Everything is Screwed up in all kinds of different ways (including women's right's) because of two main things:

- The Law and Order situation (which is as low as it get's)
- Illiteracy rate (Which again isn't good at all)


And i really can't see a time where they would be improved anytime soon.

 

[yousufr]

In Pakistan I hate the "Privileges" women enjoy. I have faced way too many incidents where women were favored.
I was at a Kachori Wala waiting for at least 15 minutes for my Kachori to be made. My order was 20 Kachoris. A women came, ordered 12 Kachoris, and she got her order immediately even though she was there for only a minute. I got insanely angry at the Kachori wala and he replied by saying "Sir, Woh Ladies Thi". I got so pissed that us ko thori galiya di are apna order cancel kara diya.

Ek aur Dafa, I was in my car waiting for my friend to come from a shop. A female driver reversed and crashed into my car (which was parked) damaging it considerably. She started blaming me that I was parked wrong and that it was my fault. I got angry and then suddenly 10 to 15 people came and said "Ladies hai, tameez say baat karo." I realized arguing was a lost cause so I told my friend to sit in the car, I rammed my car to her car's door, broke her side view mirror with my car, and then sped off.