well said deltree. sitting with bums on pc chair is easy to tell what's good and what's ain't but to explore and explore like enthusiasts can show us the real thing Japanese are attacking at. my Japaneses mate who studied here with me at university of Canberra has 1UZ-FE HKS Supra 2002 and with custom built is now putting down well over 1500rwhp + Sport-tuned suspension, leather-trimmed seating, 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels, hollow carpet fibers and an automatic climate-control with traction control and he's still wanna put more force to the RW's. it shows never under estimate chunkas (chunkas i refer to all japanese auto maniacs) and he's one of them....totally nuts.