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taimoorali007

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AoA!

I'm in O-3 Edexcel Board and I would be appearing in May 2013 for final, but I know its all on Grades but still which schools are better for A level Cambridge, because in my school no A level facility!
 

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Theres no such thing as a half credit subject, afaik. Its either single or double.
Maybe I mixed it up with the stuff I read regarding O Level credits then.

My bad. I'll get back after re-checking.
 

boku wa

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I'm doing A'levels and my subjects are Biology, Chemistry and Physics. I have heard from friends who heard from their teachers that there's a new policy now according to which a student cannot give exams from a school and privately at the same time. I want to give Maths privately. So is there a policy like that? Is it not possible for me to give the sciences from school and Maths privately in the same session (namely May/June 2013)?
And yes, I went to my vice-principal, principal and A'level coordinator. They don't know an ounce about this. Oh and also, are there clashes between exam time for example a paper of Maths and a sciences paper? I asked about the clashes from the people aforementioned as well, again they didn't know anything. School's LGS JT btw. Worst branch ever. I sure hope no one enrolls in this branch, ever unless they want to screw themselves over which is another story.

I would be immensely grateful for your help! Thanks in advance.
 
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I'm doing A'levels and my subjects are Biology, Chemistry and Physics. I have heard from friends who heard from their teachers that there's a new policy now according to which a student cannot give exams from a school and privately at the same time. I want to give Maths privately. So is there a policy like that? Is it not possible for me to give the sciences from school and Maths privately in the same session (namely May/June 2013)?
And yes, I went to my vice-principal, principal and A'level coordinator. They don't know an ounce about this. Oh and also, are there clashes between exam time for example a paper of Maths and a sciences paper? I asked about the clashes from the people aforementioned as well, again they didn't know anything. School's LGS JT btw. Worst branch ever. I sure hope no one enrolls in this branch, ever unless they want to screw themselves over which is another story.

I would be immensely grateful for your help! Thanks in advance.
Dont know about the policy of not appearing privately and school together but many friends did this last year i don't know if policies changed this year though...About clashes mostly they don't happen between subjects like maths, physics and chemistry but if it happens that only means that you have to give both papers on one sitting with few minutes break in between...
 

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Dont know about the policy of not appearing privately and school together but many friends did this last year i don't know if policies changed this year though...About clashes mostly they don't happen between subjects like maths, physics and chemistry but if it happens that only means that you have to give both papers on one sitting with few minutes break in between...
All right, thanks. I just sent an e-mail to CIE and am now going to email British Council just in case. I reeaaally hope there's no rule or policy like that because if there is one, I'm in a lot of trouble.
I can deal with having no breaks.
Nevertheless, thank you!
 

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I'm doing A'levels and my subjects are Biology, Chemistry and Physics. I have heard from friends who heard from their teachers that there's a new policy now according to which a student cannot give exams from a school and privately at the same time. I want to give Maths privately. So is there a policy like that? Is it not possible for me to give the sciences from school and Maths privately in the same session (namely May/June 2013)?
And yes, I went to my vice-principal, principal and A'level coordinator. They don't know an ounce about this. Oh and also, are there clashes between exam time for example a paper of Maths and a sciences paper? I asked about the clashes from the people aforementioned as well, again they didn't know anything. School's LGS JT btw. Worst branch ever. I sure hope no one enrolls in this branch, ever unless they want to screw themselves over which is another story.

I would be immensely grateful for your help! Thanks in advance.

I am aware of no such policy. I'm certain it's bullshit, which people like to create and spread. Always.

As for the latter, check it out for yourself. I'm not sure which papers you have to give (AS, A2, both etc). http://www.cie.org.uk/docs/profiles/exams_officers/Zone 4 FINAL Timetable Master June 2013.pdf.
 

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...there's a new policy now according to which a student cannot give exams from a school and privately at the same time...

Actually, the other day I was having a conversation with my dean and he said the exact same thing. He said that the BC would be implementing it from next year (didn't mention if June or November session). He said they're doing this to cut down on the recent retake culture.

I did ask him regarding students who wanted to appear for subjects that the school does not offer. He told me that he wasn't sure exactly how this new policy was going to be implemented.

Though I'm curious, why not give Math through your school too? I'm pretty sure it is offered there. Just register through your school instead of registering privately.
 

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Actually, the other day I was having a conversation with my dean and he said the exact same thing. He said that the BC would be implementing it from next year (didn't mention if June or November session). He said they're doing this to cut down on the recent retake culture.

I did ask him regarding students who wanted to appear for subjects that the school does not offer. He told me that he wasn't sure exactly how this new policy was going to be implemented.

Though I'm curious, why not give Math through your school too? I'm pretty sure it is offered there. Just register through your school instead of registering privately.
If it is going to be implemented, it will be done in June of that calender year.
 

boku wa

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Thank you for the link AbbY, I cross-checked the various papers and didn't seem to find any clash that would be... disastrous.

Actually, the other day I was having a conversation with my dean and he said the exact same thing. He said that the BC would be implementing it from next year (didn't mention if June or November session). He said they're doing this to cut down on the recent retake culture.

I did ask him regarding students who wanted to appear for subjects that the school does not offer. He told me that he wasn't sure exactly how this new policy was going to be implemented.

Though I'm curious, why not give Math through your school too? I'm pretty sure it is offered there. Just register through your school instead of registering privately.
Well, shit? Oh god, I hope that's not true.
I did study Math during A1 but sadly my grade for the finals was U. So my school struck me off the rollcall. But I do have reasons to *justify* my failure to obtain a passable grade:
Spoiler: show
Unlike my friends I was assigned to a class which had a male teacher who is very old. And I am sure you know old people aren't that efficient and good teachers, in Pakistan especially. The teacher is especially famous around in LGS. My brother and friends' friends who had done A'levels had told me to change my section if I ever get put in that sir's class. So I did as they said, went to the principal on two different days during the first week when we could get sections changed. I waited for a whole 2 hours each freaking time even though I was the earliest person because freaking favoritism god damn it! On both occasions I was turned down with "Sorry beta, we change the sections of students to give them better teachers. But I can't transfer you to Sir Amjad's class because there are no empty seats." Sir Amjad is the most famous Maths teacher in our school. But guess what? She lied to me both times. I asked my friends if there were free seats and they said without doubt there were, more than a few seats. And I was so pissed off that she turned me down and I had no hope of getting my section changed now. Our principal is very famous for her brash behaviour and she is called many names in our school like "Faiqa Don". My school's whole student council hurls abuses to her because she is that bad and same goes for the policies she has for school. But moving on, a class fellow of mine went to the principal to get his section changed to Sir Amjad's class and his was changed, during the fourth week, way after I went. He told me that Faiqa did it because she knew him personally and that there were guys behing him who wanted their sections changed to Sir Amjad but they were turned down. Okay. Then my neighbour transferred to JT from LGS Paragon a month after mid-term ended and she gave him a choice to select his teachers. WTF?! While everyone else was put into sections randomly. He chose Sir Amjad, and voila, he's in. I was all wtf at that again. Oh btw, I forgot to mention that she promised me and had written my name in her notebook to transfer me to Sir Amjad's class whenever there are free seats. lol, right!
Sir Taji essentially taught like this. Picture that there is a blank board with Sir Taji next to it and a young kid on the verge of learning alphabets. Sir Taji would write the english alphabets on the board and say "seekh lo".
He did one basic, starting question from an excercise all the while skipping steps in between and telling the students to do rest of the exercise. When someone asked him to do this specific question or explain it he would say "karo, aa jae ga".

So that spoiler above was my story, here in this spoiler are the impressions of some people on Sir Taji who was my teacher:
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  • One day when I was in class Sir Taji asked the students: "Whoever has taken Add. Maths, raise your hands!" And those who had taken Add. Maths did so. When he took a good look he said: "Yar, unhon nay saray nikammay mujhay hi denay thay?" Yes, this actually happened. How would I have known that taking Add. Maths was a prerequisite to A'level Maths? Most of the students there had taken Add. Maths so they got a headstart.
  • Saif-ur-Rehman the student who graduated this year and who got two world distinctions in Maths and Add. Maths himself said: "Yar mujhay Sir Taji ki samajh bilkul nahi lagti. Khud kar kar kay Maths aur Further Maths ki humnay."
  • My brother and neighbours of a close friend of mine told me to change my section if I was ever in Sir Taji's section because according to them: "You would only suffer if you study from Sir Taji".
  • Most of the people I had talked to in Sir Taji's class had taken tuition and/or they went to academies that's why the class got a generally-talking good result. Unfortunately I was unable to study from the tutor I studied my O'level Maths from since he was busy and I could not go to academies since like I mentioned before, I live very far away and I had no driver to take me anywhere. Not to mention my timings e.g. I have to sit free for 7 1/2 hours for 2 1/2 classes on thursday. Going back takes about an hour so on Thursdays I reach home after 5 p.m. and everyday I have to sleep since I come back on a rickshaw. Because if I don't I get sleepy during classes and teachers scold me. So academies were a no-win situation for me.
  • A classmate of mine told me that when he went to academy for Maths last year that there were around 25 boys there as well. He went on to tell me that: "Udhar sub students Sir Taji kay thay."


Anyway, he was an awful teacher. At two different instances (months apart btw) about 65-70% of the boys went to complain about Sir Taji and they were paid no heed. Worst thing was that the principal wrote down their names and told about this to the teacher. And everyday in class started and ended with the teacher humiliating those boys. Pretty nice, right? He went personal as well most of the time. Going as far to call a "tum mental ho?" continuously for a month.
In short everyone hates him, badmouths him and majority of the students are taking tuitions. I couldn't take tuitions during A1 and neither did I study Add. Maths so yeah. For e.g. my school on thursday starts at 8:00 and ends at 4:00 though I only have two classes totalling 3 hours.
I went to class everyday promising myself "I am going to something today, anything. No matter what". Every day I did that. But I didn't learn shit. I even started to dislike the subject because of him.

My story is something like that. I got lied to by my principal two times, had to study from a teacher that doesn't teach and my struck of the rollcall but those fuckers are still taking money for it. Hahaha, great job! At least I have scholarship so it's not that bad. But still.

So, AbbY should I call British Council and ask them about this policy? I have emailed BC and CIE though, but who knows when or if they are even going to respond.
 

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Sir Amjad?

Amjad Iqbal? The ex-Aitchison head of department?

I've been a student of his, and I can assure you, he is definitely the best math teacher I've come across. If you are struggling and the school isn't helping, opt for a tuition. You need to study for yourself always, first, not your school!
 

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And yes, I'll suggest calling BC.

Also, talk to the school via letters from your parents or physical presence of your parents and tell them your story, and ask them to let you take it.
 

boku wa

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Yup, Sir Amjad Iqbal. I have heard nothing but universal praise of him virtually everywhere. Every kid goes to him to take tuition.

"If you are struggling and the school isn't helping, opt for a tuition."
I would certainly do that and want to but LGS JT's timings are so horrible that I reach home everyday at 4 or 5pm. Then sleep, wake up at 6 or 7pm. There's no time left. I have studied my whole life in LGS and considered it to be a decent school, but when my A'levels started don't ask. I have never hating anything with such a passion ever before in my life. Sure it has a few brilliant students now and then but they are those who do nothing but study all the day (no joke).
I'll ring up BC tomorrow.

"Also, talk to the school via letters from your parents or physical presence of your parents and tell them your story, and ask them to let you take it."
I talked to my school's principal to let me take Math when I got to know about my name being struck in mid-october and she told me to at least get a C grade. I am studying Math by myself and am making good progress but I can't cover the whole P1,P3, M1 and S1 in one month and get a C. Plus, P3 is made by Sir Amjad and the students with 12 A's also come out crying so you can see how difficult papers he makes are.
I know my limits and I know I can't do the whole syllabus and enough past papers to get a C so I am not going to try it on the risk of my other subjects. If I get below average grades in the sciences I will be made wholly private. They only care about their reputation.
 

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I'm doing A'levels and my subjects are Biology, Chemistry and Physics. I have heard from friends who heard from their teachers that there's a new policy now according to which a student cannot give exams from a school and privately at the same time. I want to give Maths privately. So is there a policy like that? Is it not possible for me to give the sciences from school and Maths privately in the same session (namely May/June 2013)?
And yes, I went to my vice-principal, principal and A'level coordinator. They don't know an ounce about this. Oh and also, are there clashes between exam time for example a paper of Maths and a sciences paper? I asked about the clashes from the people aforementioned as well, again they didn't know anything. School's LGS JT btw. Worst branch ever. I sure hope no one enrolls in this branch, ever unless they want to screw themselves over which is another story.
Hey man. Before I say anything, just wanted you to know that I just recently finished my A levels from LGS JT. And trust me, all the things you've mentioned about Faiqa/LGS JT are absolutely true. They both suck. I wasted 2 years of my life going to that shith***. And now the story is that Im taking a gapyear and re appearing for my exams, as I got really horrendous grades. I couldnt settle into any sort of a routine for the past 2 years.
Anyway, as for your queries, I can assure you that there is no such rule implemented by CIE. I had Bio, Phy, Chem and Psychology, and in A2 I decided that I wanted to give Maths privately. Then I came to know from someone ( a rumour) that you cant give papers both via school and privately in one session. I went up to Faiqa's office, and asked her if this was true. She was like 'Yes beta, ab unhon ne rules change kar diye hain, I cant do anything'. Then after spending days trying to find a solution for this dilemma I was in, I called the British council myself and asked them if there was such a thing. They bluntly replied NO. And you can have my word, as I appeared both privately (in Maths) and with school in May/June 2012. As did a few of my friends.
 

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Btw, Im looking for tuitions of Maths and Physics. I'll be going to Sir Amjad Iqbal for Maths. He teaches at The Centre (some place in Gulberg). Best place to go, as there are not many children enrolled as far as I know. When I took my O level tuition from him there were 10-12 children at most, and 5 of them were my friends. I have no idea where I should go for Physics. Sessions have probably started and I havent enrolled yet. So if someone can tell me a good teacher who has only a few children in his class, I'll be grateful. Mainstream places like Greenhall, NGS, Wise college etc have too many children, and the environment's just like school. It's useless studying there.
 

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Btw, Im looking for tuitions of Maths and Physics. I'll be going to Sir Amjad Iqbal for Maths. He teaches at The Centre (some place in Gulberg). Best place to go, as there are not many children enrolled as far as I know. When I took my O level tuition from him there were 10-12 children at most, and 5 of them were my friends. I have no idea where I should go for Physics. Sessions have probably started and I havent enrolled yet. So if someone can tell me a good teacher who has only a few children in his class, I'll be grateful. Mainstream places like Greenhall, NGS, Wise college etc have too many children, and the environment's just like school. It's useless studying there.
Sir Amjad used to teach at The Center in Madam Fehmina's days. I've heard it's all split up now and he's teaching at some other place. (Some private uni AFAIK)

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Yup, Sir Amjad Iqbal. I have heard nothing but universal praise of him virtually everywhere. Every kid goes to him to take tuition.

"If you are struggling and the school isn't helping, opt for a tuition."
I would certainly do that and want to but LGS JT's timings are so horrible that I reach home everyday at 4 or 5pm. Then sleep, wake up at 6 or 7pm. There's no time left. I have studied my whole life in LGS and considered it to be a decent school, but when my A'levels started don't ask. I have never hating anything with such a passion ever before in my life. Sure it has a few brilliant students now and then but they are those who do nothing but study all the day (no joke).
I'll ring up BC tomorrow.

"Also, talk to the school via letters from your parents or physical presence of your parents and tell them your story, and ask them to let you take it."
I talked to my school's principal to let me take Math when I got to know about my name being struck in mid-october and she told me to at least get a C grade. I am studying Math by myself and am making good progress but I can't cover the whole P1,P3, M1 and S1 in one month and get a C. Plus, P3 is made by Sir Amjad and the students with 12 A's also come out crying so you can see how difficult papers he makes are.
I know my limits and I know I can't do the whole syllabus and enough past papers to get a C so I am not going to try it on the risk of my other subjects. If I get below average grades in the sciences I will be made wholly private. They only care about their reputation.
Lol. And I used to bad-mouth Aitchison's 6am-2pm shit with an hour wasted due to no classes. How wrong was I. :hah:
 

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for physics Akhtar mehmood is the best option, he teaches at salt garden town, near kfc. he also has a role in making the physical topical books
 
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