[OT] .::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::.

Which 3G/4G is going best so far?


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zafarabbasrizvi

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No idea. Have been reporting bugs for over a week now and no change.
At least most things on Tapatalk are functional, the PC version barely works at all.
Has this forum been acquired by Jazz postpaid billing department?

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khan1

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Zong is giving 50% extra data on new MBB devices. 36 gb in 1500/m and 97 gb in 2500/m

Check data speed of Zong in your area before buying.

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What about old customers? do they really think that we will subscribe to their shitty packages for eg 1500rs for 24 GB and that too with pathetic speeds- whereas Jazz isn giving 36 GB for the same amount.


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zafarabbasrizvi

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[MENTION=63376]shaheerk[/MENTION]
So this is how Huawei deploying all 2G/3G/4G services on a single block of spectrum.

Huawei Redefines Mobile Access Networks with CloudAIR - Huawei at MWC2017

And Airtel India also deployed same with the help of Huawei.

Huawei Helps Bharti Airtel Deploy GSM, UMTS & LTE on 900MHz Band | Light Reading


And I think Jazz is also going to deploy same technology. Soon we might see Jazz 2G/3G and 4G on 900 MHz and 3G/4G on 2100 MHz as well.

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shaheerk

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[MENTION=63376]shaheerk[/MENTION]
So this is how Huawei deploying all 2G/3G/4G services on a single block of spectrum.

Huawei Redefines Mobile Access Networks with CloudAIR - Huawei at MWC2017

And Airtel India also deployed same with the help of Huawei.

Huawei Helps Bharti Airtel Deploy GSM, UMTS & LTE on 900MHz Band | Light Reading


And I think Jazz is also going to deploy same technology. Soon we might see Jazz 2G/3G and 4G on 900 MHz and 3G/4G on 2100 MHz as well.

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That's interesting - they're activating and deactivating technologies on the fly, according to user demand.

I would still think they'll benefit by refarming 900Mhz for 4G and deploy VoLTE... But yeah, I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.

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zafarabbasrizvi

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That's interesting - they're activating and deactivating technologies on the fly, according to user demand.

I would still think they'll benefit by refarming 900Mhz for 4G and deploy VoLTE... But yeah, I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.

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900 MHz for all technologies will provide more benefit than only 4G. It will fix indoor coverage flaws of 2100 MHz and 1800 MHz both. And remember that they only have 6 MHz of 900 MHz. By refarming it for 4G only will effect their 2G services, but with thia technology they can play among all 2G/3G/4G technologies.

Moreover they already have 15 MHz for 4G. And who knows one day they launch 4G on 2100 MHz with same technology to counter congestion. And VoLTE must be launched on all bands.

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smaaz

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I have Zong MiFi (with old blue logo and antenna port) and it doesn't support band 5. I am sure new device with green logo have same frequency support.

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Can you check again, I manage to find a E5573s-320 factory unlocked and it does support Telenor 4g or Band 5 perfectly.

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shaheerk

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VoLTE could be launched solely on band 3 - my only reasoning was if they were to push ahead with VoLTE, then converting 900Mhz to 4G would be more beneficial (you may not be able to use data that well - even though 4G performs much better than 3G on weak signals - but you'll be able to hold a call, at least). That was my reasoning.

If they're not interested in opting for VoLTE (and they'll be stupid not to have that roadmap in the future), then yeah, 3G on 900 Mhz would make more sense.

Also, if they refarm, I wonder how/what combination they'll use the spectrum in. Warid's 4.8 isn't enough for 3G (but is sufficient for 4G), whilst their existing 900Mhz is sufficient for 2G, 3G and 4G. I also don't see them doing this everywhere because this might squeeze their entire 2G spectrum - unless they can integrate Warid's spectrum somehow for 2G.

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shaheerk

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Sorry for a little off topic post. What to write in date ? Expiry date? What is cvc?


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On your debit or credit card, flip it over to see where you put your signs (you know you're supposed to sign your card, right?).

The three digits you see there is your CVC.

My guess is that you've never Googled CVC before, and this is your first time doing an online transaction. In that case, tread carefully - you should know how to protect yourself from online credit card fraud.

Edit: also, yes. You enter the expiry date in the space provided.

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zafarabbasrizvi

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VoLTE could be launched solely on band 3 - my only reasoning was if they were to push ahead with VoLTE, then converting 900Mhz to 4G would be more beneficial (you may not be able to use data that well - even though 4G performs much better than 3G on weak signals - but you'll be able to hold a call, at least). That was my reasoning.

If they're not interested in opting for VoLTE (and they'll be stupid not to have that roadmap in the future), then yeah, 3G on 900 Mhz would make more sense.

Also, if they refarm, I wonder how/what combination they'll use the spectrum in. Warid's 4.8 isn't enough for 3G (but is sufficient for 4G), whilst their existing 900Mhz is sufficient for 2G, 3G and 4G. I also don't see them doing this everywhere because this might squeeze their entire 2G spectrum - unless they can integrate Warid's spectrum somehow for 2G.

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Well their 3G on 900 MHz is available everywhere I suppose where they have upgraded network. I checked at Faisalabad and Sargodha and 3G on 900 MHz is here.

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shaheerk

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Well their 3G on 900 MHz is available everywhere I suppose where they have upgraded network. I checked at Faisalabad and Sargodha and 3G on 900 MHz is here.

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It's not in my house, so it's not everywhere ;)

But really - it's not everywhere.

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Both TW & DICE tbh as they both should co-operate and give each other a full set of routes for proper advertising throughout the network like how I got it done between Valve and PTCL few years back.



Traceroute isn't telling the full story from this end, both are taking different paths but traceroute is showing it as same for both. Also, return trace will be different for both.

p.s Both aren't exactly optimised, the 80ms you're getting on PTCL is luck, PTCL isn't doing it on purpose but it just so happens that the return traffic is not coming back from EU in your DSL tracert's case. Also, if you take a look at hop 9 on the DSL tracert and hop 13 on Jazz's tracert, it is PTCL's EU PoP as in PTCL's link in EU
You brokered some deal between Valve and PTCL?

Any heads-up on improvements for Fifa pings?

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[MENTION=138674]MS1104[/MENTION], since you're aware of what's going on, I have a question - with regards to the same IP [MENTION=36166]iNCEPTiON[/MENTION] is pointing to (185.179.202.65). On PTCL, I can get pings between 90 and 100 ms - but on Mobilink's 4G, latencies were around 450ms (right now, it's around 200ms, and that's on PIE, not TW1 - it could very well be transient as well, so I'll post screenshots here in case anyone wants to compare later on). Does your "announcing" theory apply here, or is Mobilink's routing totally messed up for other reasons?I also quickly wanted to chip in and say that traceroutes on both PTCL and Mobilink are giving me the same exact IPs on PTCL's network and on the destination network for both DSL and 3G, and I understand the additional latencies on 3G.See Imgur: The magic of the Internet for the traceroutes.
The announcing theory is only relevant for TW because Omantel, a TW upstream, have a direct connection with i3d.net servers. For PTCL and their routing you may or may not get those 90-100 ms pings but they aren't intentional and can't be controlled by PTCL.
 
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