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sTraNg3r

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I think (my uninformed opinion) ISPs around the world have peering agreements - for e.g., TW1 has one with Google (which is why pings to Google's websites are now ~50ms vs. 100ms or 160ms) and with a few others as well (not referring to CDNs) - and it could be why [MENTION=36166]iNCEPTiON[/MENTION]'s IP address gives low pings to TW1 users - because of some peering between the ISPs/backones. I don't know why they can't peer properly. But - one more thing - notice how all international bandwidth Pakistan is connected to links up to Oman/UAE (the Middle East) and India - we can get fairly decent pings to some Middle Eastern websites, but India - which is closer to us - doesn't even come anywhere close. I don't even know why - it just doesn't make sense.
Your first point is correct. Though both PTCL and TW have peering agreements with Google (and similar content providers, e.g. Facebook), the difference in ping is due to the fact that both have different commercial agreements i.e. depending on physical link feasibility and financial (read cheap) reasons, they peer with Google via providers in two different countries. Which brings me to the next point, Oman & UAE use large neutral POPs and are major data hubs that peer with other Internet Exchanges all over the world due to their sheer amount of investment and submarine capacity. And since I've seen people mentioning India quite a few times here's my 2 cents - the situation with India is quite complicated (duh). Even though there's plenty of capacity between the two countries, at this moment in time peering agreements are hard to reach owing to the political situation (and perhaps more importantly for ISPs - network security, which I won't go into). At the moment it's easier and cheaper to rely on other carriers for data transit rather than direct peering.
 

shaheerk

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Your first point is correct. Though both PTCL and TW have peering agreements with Google (and similar content providers, e.g. Facebook), the difference in ping is due to the fact that both have different commercial agreements i.e. depending on physical link feasibility and financial (read cheap) reasons, they peer with Google via providers in two different countries. Which brings me to the next point, Oman & UAE use large neutral POPs and are major data hubs that peer with other Internet Exchanges all over the world due to their sheer amount of investment and submarine capacity. And since I've seen people mentioning India quite a few times here's my 2 cents - the situation with India is quite complicated (duh). Even though there's plenty of capacity between the two countries, at this moment in time peering agreements are hard to reach owing to the political situation (and perhaps more importantly for ISPs - network security, which I won't go into). At the moment it's easier and cheaper to rely on other carriers for data transit rather than direct peering.
We got an internet guy here!

Thanks for the detailed info - appreciate it. That's why I qualified my post with the statement that this is my uninformed opinion because I don't have a lot of knowledge in these things. But thanks for stepping in!

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daneel olivaaw

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So I have a Jazz data sim and a Jazz MBB wingle but the download speed I am getting on them are nowhere near the speeds I get on my Jazz Gold number. I have tested all 3 of them in different locations.Only conclusion is that Jazz is throttling the speed of their MBB devices even though they offer competitive packages compared to Zong. Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
 

zafarabbasrizvi

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ZONG 4G... BLUE AREA ISLAMABAD

I am kicking myself now and really regretting that i wasted 1560Rs. On this shit speed.


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This is well under PTA's set limit for 4G. You can lodge a complaint to Zong and PTA as well.

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khan1

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At last I will end my journey with Zong for ever as my primary connection for internet.Today i tried to check the speed on Jazz server on speed test and it shows this.Speed isn't the problem the damn thing chokes and doesn't work.
on zong servet it shows 20Mbps download LOL.. reality wasnt 20Mbps but it was 7Mbps.. why do these idiots mess up with their server to show fake speeds




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iNCEPTiON

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At last I will end my journey with Zong for ever as my primary connection for internet.Today i tried to check the speed on Jazz server on speed test and it shows this.Speed isn't the problem the damn thing chokes and doesn't work.
on zong servet it shows 20Mbps download LOL.. reality wasnt 20Mbps but it was 7Mbps.. why do these idiots mess up with their server to show fake speeds




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I am regretting that i recharged Zong :( and i am stuck now till month end. I should have gone for Charji as they are giving double volume which is 50GB for 1500

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khan1

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CharjI isn't available in Abbottabad.I don't know why it is not.Someone was telling me Pakistan Military isn't allowing them to use the frequency for it.3.1 shit is there but have no idea of charjI

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zafarabbasrizvi

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CharjI isn't available in Abbottabad.I don't know why it is not.Someone was telling me Pakistan Military isn't allowing them to use the frequency for it.3.1 shit is there but have no idea of charjI

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Charji LTE is available in many cities but PTCL will tell only handful of cities where they claim Charji services are available. I asked them about Sargodha and they straight away told me that Charji services are not available in Sargodha. When I turned on my device in Sargodha with the hope that 9.3 Mbps 3G would work here, device was catching LTE signals. I recharged the device and speed in Sargodha jumped to 2MB/s while downloading torrent which means at least 16 Mbps speed. Check Charji signals if you or your someone has the device.

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khan1

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.::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::. VoLTE incoming

I have got this device,its 3.1 evo .Will they upgrade my device to 9.3 free? secondly its on my cousin name living abroad.
I connected with the laptop in the its app it wasn't showing any signals.After recharge will it show the signals or device is blocked? since 2 years its lying in my cupboard
 
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irfan2050

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Jazz but hi bkwas aur fazool service hi ajj mery bhi ko pm wali jazz 3g Wingle mili jo kay fazool hay hmary liy kun kha jazz village areia ko corveg hi nai 3g aur 4g to door ki baat jab kha zong 4g ko aik sall say bhi zidia ho gia hi na mera areia Mai jazz PTCL aur Telenor 3g nai hamara lay srif Ik hope hi zong aur speed bhi perfect
 

khan1

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Chalo bhai Allah zong ka saya humesha apkay pr rakay.. humaraay han to 4G puranay hugaye hain.Ab to 5G ka intezar ker rhay hain

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zafarabbasrizvi

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I have got this device,its 3.1 evo .Will they upgrade my device to 9.3 free? secondly its on my cousin name living abroad.
I connected with the laptop in the its app it wasn't showing any signals.After recharge will it show the signals or device is blocked? since 2 years its lying in my cupboard
In fsd they are replacing it free. Can't tell about abbotabad. You can visit exchange for device replacement or call help line for its status. Original person with cnic is required for replacement. Heared that retailers are giving free device upon purchase of a bundle. But not confirmed.

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iNCEPTiON

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In fsd they are replacing it free. Can't tell about abbotabad. You can visit exchange for device replacement or call help line for its status. Original person with cnic is required for replacement. Heared that retailers are giving free device upon purchase of a bundle. But not confirmed.

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Who is giving free device on the bundle?

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