[OT] .::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::.

[gamer11]

Yes I am aware of it.. a guy is selling the USB Device for 6.5K Thats too expensive.. but packages are good.

499 Rs. Monthly = 20GB
550 Rs. Monthly = 22GB

so its 4g of zong but offered by hec basically for students n hence thats y so cheaper, now people r gonna start making money out of it

 

[junejo]

Lol packages are pretty cheap but you cant subscribe again once you consume your data that thing of zong is annoying.

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[gamer11]

Lol packages are pretty cheap but you cant subscribe again once you consume your data that thing of zong is annoying.��

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u do get additional gb for some extra amount, u r talking about wingle devies, right
if u consume more then use higher volume package

 

[iNCEPTiON]

Lol packages are pretty cheap but you cant subscribe again once you consume your data that thing of zong is annoying.

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MBB devices are not meant to do heavy downloading ... bro

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[junejo]

MBB devices are not meant to do heavy downloading ... bro

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Yes i know but what if a student uses it for watching few online video lectures every day and finishes his data before end of the month??
Zong has high data consumption than others. My cousin uses zong mbb wingle for online gaming,whatsapp and Facebook his 24gb finishes within 20 days.

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[shaheerk]

Yes i know but what if a student uses it for watching few online video lectures every day and finishes his data before end of the month??
Zong has high data consumption than others. My cousin uses zong mbb wingle for online gaming,whatsapp and Facebook his 24gb finishes within 20 days.

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Watching = heavy consumption. Doesn't matter if they're lectures or baby shows.

These services offer portability, not bandwidth (GBs).

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[iNCEPTiON]

Watching = heavy consumption. Doesn't matter if they're lectures or baby shows.

These services offer portability, not bandwidth (GBs).

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Yep !!! Thats what I am trying to explain

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[shaheerk]

Yep !!! Thats what I am trying to explain

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I know I was only trying to compliment your post

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[junejo]

Hmm how to get this wingle? Is this for every student enrolled in hec certified university or some kind of eligibility?

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[iNCEPTiON]

Hmm how to get this wingle? Is this for every student enrolled in hec certified university or some kind of eligibility?

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No idea .. I am trying to get the device too

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[iNCEPTiON]

Mobilink 3G ...

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[shaheerk]

Alright, so I'm back from London. Here are my findings:

I was using Giffgaff as my operator (they run on O2). They have 4g on the 800 MHz spectrum. They also joined late to the 4G party (EE has the inherent advantage in terms of spectrum and speed, and coverage).

In London, 2g service is great - as far as voice calls are concerned. Data on 2g was a mixed bag, depending on where you were. Sometimes it would be as good as Mobilink's 2G, and sometimes, it would be as "good" as Zong's 2g...

3g: the UK has a really widespread 3G service in most cases. There are places where it just craps out. This includes the country side (if you're going to travel by train to another city, prepare yourself for outages*) and underground stations (understandably). 3g speeds weren't too high, but weren't all that bad either - you could average around 2 to 3 Mbps in central London.

But 4g?

Okay. So in the hotel I was staying at (Holborn/Tottenham Court Road, for those curious), I managed to get a peak speed of 10Mbps on 4g. Yes. Peak. In one other place did I manage to get around 11. I don't know if they capped it for prepaid plans (like Giffgaff) or not, but the average 4g speed is lower there. In other places, it would only give me 3 Mbps on 4g.

Don't care about uploads, because I didn't go to England to torrent.

4g coverage was rather shoddy - even with their low frequency spectrum. The coverage wasn't everywhere, to be honest - and it wasn't full signals in all places either. The phone would revert to 3g half the time, which still worked, but obviously not super fast. In the countryside, forget about 4g, unless you're near a town. Inside buildings, it's your luck. Some buildings have better signals than the others (Heathrow airport, for instance).

But what I'm trying to say is that while WIRED services there are much faster than Pakistan in terms of speed and latency (for example, EE, who give 17Mbps standard on the phone lines, and they have GOOD performance, even though EE/BT have problems like PTCL when it comes to setting up DSL connections, because my friend has been waiting for 3 weeks and he doesn't have fiber in his area... And he lives in central London! But I digress), WIRELESS services in London are crap. I honestly respect the operators here (except Telenor, who can't maintain their 3G network and signals) because they tend to be more speedy and reliable, and much faster (despite the higher latency), and with much better coverage overall.

You'd be surprised how London has such terrible phone coverage and internet service, given that it's a big city.

* I don't know if O2 restricts their network to other providers such as Giffgaff, because I saw that my phone was able to "detect" O2 masts, but not connect to them at several instances. But that still is no excuse for not-so-great phone signals and internet services there. Trust me, we have more reliable 3g internet here in Pakistan than they do. It's fine for basic things, but if you want to surf the web there, it's your luck.

Honestly!

I have Zong. At least I don't have signal issues in most places. You guys have Mobilink's. Everyone knows Mobilink's is decent as well. Those who have EE there have the best coverage (because T Mobile + Orange), whilst Vodafone is probably next in line (I don't know, I've heard). O2 advertises as having the best coverage countrywide, but after staying in London, I'm not sure that's true. Others who had O2 in London said similar things.

Interestingly, Manchester and Edinburgh didn't have signal issues unlike London. The internet speeds there were better too!

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[syed shehzad]

Alright, so I'm back from London. Here are my findings:

I was using Giffgaff as my operator (they run on O2). They have 4g on the 800 MHz spectrum. They also joined late to the 4G party (EE has the inherent advantage in terms of spectrum and speed, and coverage).

In London, 2g service is great - as far as voice calls are concerned. Data on 2g was a mixed bag, depending on where you were. Sometimes it would be as good as Mobilink's 2G, and sometimes, it would be as "good" as Zong's 2g...

3g: the UK has a really widespread 3G service in most cases. There are places where it just craps out. This includes the country side (if you're going to travel by train to another city, prepare yourself for outages*) and underground stations (understandably). 3g speeds weren't too high, but weren't all that bad either - you could average around 2 to 3 Mbps in central London.

But 4g?

Okay. So in the hotel I was staying at (Holborn/Tottenham Court Road, for those curious), I managed to get a peak speed of 10Mbps on 4g. Yes. Peak. In one other place did I manage to get around 11. I don't know if they capped it for prepaid plans (like Giffgaff) or not, but the average 4g speed is lower there. In other places, it would only give me 3 Mbps on 4g.

Don't care about uploads, because I didn't go to England to torrent.

4g coverage was rather shoddy - even with their low frequency spectrum. The coverage wasn't everywhere, to be honest - and it wasn't full signals in all places either. The phone would revert to 3g half the time, which still worked, but obviously not super fast. In the countryside, forget about 4g, unless you're near a town. Inside buildings, it's your luck. Some buildings have better signals than the others (Heathrow airport, for instance).

But what I'm trying to say is that while WIRED services there are much faster than Pakistan in terms of speed and latency (for example, EE, who give 17Mbps standard on the phone lines, and they have GOOD performance, even though EE/BT have problems like PTCL when it comes to setting up DSL connections, because my friend has been waiting for 3 weeks and he doesn't have fiber in his area... And he lives in central London! But I digress), WIRELESS services in London are crap. I honestly respect the operators here (except Telenor, who can't maintain their 3G network and signals) because they tend to be more speedy and reliable, and much faster (despite the higher latency), and with much better coverage overall.

You'd be surprised how London has such terrible phone coverage and internet service, given that it's a big city.

* I don't know if O2 restricts their network to other providers such as Giffgaff, because I saw that my phone was able to "detect" O2 masts, but not connect to them at several instances. But that still is no excuse for not-so-great phone signals and internet services there. Trust me, we have more reliable 3g internet here in Pakistan than they do. It's fine for basic things, but if you want to surf the web there, it's your luck.

Honestly!

I have Zong. At least I don't have signal issues in most places. You guys have Mobilink's. Everyone knows Mobilink's is decent as well. Those who have EE there have the best coverage (because T Mobile + Orange), whilst Vodafone is probably next in line (I don't know, I've heard). O2 advertises as having the best coverage countrywide, but after staying in London, I'm not sure that's true. Others who had O2 in London said similar things.

Interestingly, Manchester and Edinburgh didn't have signal issues unlike London. The internet speeds there were better too!

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I don't agree with you as u have just used GiffGaff which uses O2 network.
U should have tried EE 3 which will tell you real speed what we get here like right i am using Life mobile which owned by EE here is 3G speed

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[syed shehzad]

And here my Virgin 50mb fibre optic speed which cost 25 pound a month

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[shaheerk]

And here my Virgin 50mb fibre optic speed which cost 25 pound a month

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Oh yes! I've used Virgin Media, and dropped drooled at their speeds. Their upload wasn't asymmetric, but they were super fast. EE on DSL is limited to 24 Mbps downstream speeds (that's the theoretical maximum you can get on a single phone line without additional patches).

But then, VM tends to block torrent pages through deep packet inspection (Pakistani style). EE does too, but they block less websites vs. VM. I read yesterday Sky only blocks on a DNS level, so you can circumvent their blocks.

Edit: the friend who had VM was getting 55Mbps speeds... Either you have another package, or others were using the internet at the same time at your end. I didn't ask how much he's paying, but on their website, it mentioned 55Mbps. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't agree with you as u have just used GiffGaff which uses O2 network.
U should have tried EE 3 which will tell you real speed what we get here like right i am using Life mobile which owned by EE here is 3G speed

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In my post, I clearly wrote I use Giffgaff, which uses O2. Or course that means I didn't use any other operator. I hear good things about 3 as well, but Giffgaff has greater bang for the buck!

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[murtaza12]

Alright, so I'm back from London. Here are my findings:

I was using Giffgaff as my operator (they run on O2). They have 4g on the 800 MHz spectrum. They also joined late to the 4G party (EE has the inherent advantage in terms of spectrum and speed, and coverage).

In London, 2g service is great - as far as voice calls are concerned. Data on 2g was a mixed bag, depending on where you were. Sometimes it would be as good as Mobilink's 2G, and sometimes, it would be as "good" as Zong's 2g...

3g: the UK has a really widespread 3G service in most cases. There are places where it just craps out. This includes the country side (if you're going to travel by train to another city, prepare yourself for outages*) and underground stations (understandably). 3g speeds weren't too high, but weren't all that bad either - you could average around 2 to 3 Mbps in central London.

But 4g?

Okay. So in the hotel I was staying at (Holborn/Tottenham Court Road, for those curious), I managed to get a peak speed of 10Mbps on 4g. Yes. Peak. In one other place did I manage to get around 11. I don't know if they capped it for prepaid plans (like Giffgaff) or not, but the average 4g speed is lower there. In other places, it would only give me 3 Mbps on 4g.

Don't care about uploads, because I didn't go to England to torrent.

4g coverage was rather shoddy - even with their low frequency spectrum. The coverage wasn't everywhere, to be honest - and it wasn't full signals in all places either. The phone would revert to 3g half the time, which still worked, but obviously not super fast. In the countryside, forget about 4g, unless you're near a town. Inside buildings, it's your luck. Some buildings have better signals than the others (Heathrow airport, for instance).

But what I'm trying to say is that while WIRED services there are much faster than Pakistan in terms of speed and latency (for example, EE, who give 17Mbps standard on the phone lines, and they have GOOD performance, even though EE/BT have problems like PTCL when it comes to setting up DSL connections, because my friend has been waiting for 3 weeks and he doesn't have fiber in his area... And he lives in central London! But I digress), WIRELESS services in London are crap. I honestly respect the operators here (except Telenor, who can't maintain their 3G network and signals) because they tend to be more speedy and reliable, and much faster (despite the higher latency), and with much better coverage overall.

You'd be surprised how London has such terrible phone coverage and internet service, given that it's a big city.

* I don't know if O2 restricts their network to other providers such as Giffgaff, because I saw that my phone was able to "detect" O2 masts, but not connect to them at several instances. But that still is no excuse for not-so-great phone signals and internet services there. Trust me, we have more reliable 3g internet here in Pakistan than they do. It's fine for basic things, but if you want to surf the web there, it's your luck.

Honestly!

I have Zong. At least I don't have signal issues in most places. You guys have Mobilink's. Everyone knows Mobilink's is decent as well. Those who have EE there have the best coverage (because T Mobile + Orange), whilst Vodafone is probably next in line (I don't know, I've heard). O2 advertises as having the best coverage countrywide, but after staying in London, I'm not sure that's true. Others who had O2 in London said similar things.

Interestingly, Manchester and Edinburgh didn't have signal issues unlike London. The internet speeds there were better too!

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Firstly, hope your trip in the UK was good. Getting a visa renewal nowadays is a f*cking pain in the ass.

Secondly, all MVNOs in the UK are like that. Be it Giffgaff, Tesco or Lycamobile. It's not only in the UK either, in the US as well, MVNOs like Cricket (AT&T), MetroPCS (T-Mobile) and StraightTalk (Verizon) are all throttled so that remaining network resources are reserved for the main network.

Also, I read somewhere O2-UK finally got license for another band (1800, I think), so they use 800 and 1800 for LTE. They're still crap though.

If you want high speed LTE, get Vodafone.
If you want what is usually a high speed network but with crap reliability, get EE.
If you want dirt cheap data bundles, but non-existent countryside coverage, then Three is your best choice.

Both Voda and EE use Carrier aggregation and use 800, 1800 and 2600 for LTE, so LTE speeds inside populated areas will be very good.

Lastly, indoor coverage isn't that much of a priority as it was in the past since now most networks in developed countries have alternate solutions for people who are indoors or in out of service areas. Wi-Fi calling/texting. Provided you're connected to a WiFi network, you can still call or text and it will show up as your number on the receivers phone, but the call will be placed through WiFi.

 

[iNCEPTiON]

I am really happy with Mobilink

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[fazal10001]

I am really happy with Mobilink

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And here I am wishing for atleast 8mbps

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[iNCEPTiON]

And here I am wishing for atleast 8mbps

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WTF ? WHAT HAPPENED ? Check out mine just did the speedtest

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[shaheerk]

Firstly, hope your trip in the UK was good. Getting a visa renewal nowadays is a f*cking pain in the ass.

Secondly, all MVNOs in the UK are like that. Be it Giffgaff, Tesco or Lycamobile. It's not only in the UK either, in the US as well, MVNOs like Cricket (AT&T), MetroPCS (T-Mobile) and StraightTalk (Verizon) are all throttled so that remaining network resources are reserved for the main network.

Also, I read somewhere O2-UK finally got license for another band (1800, I think), so they use 800 and 1800 for LTE. They're still crap though.

If you want high speed LTE, get Vodafone.
If you want what is usually a high speed network but with crap reliability, get EE.
If you want dirt cheap data bundles, but non-existent countryside coverage, then Three is your best choice.

Both Voda and EE use Carrier aggregation and use 800, 1800 and 2600 for LTE, so LTE speeds inside populated areas will be very good.

Lastly, indoor coverage isn't that much of a priority as it was in the past since now most networks in developed countries have alternate solutions for people who are indoors or in out of service areas. Wi-Fi calling/texting. Provided you're connected to a WiFi network, you can still call or text and it will show up as your number on the receivers phone, but the call will be placed through WiFi.

1. I agree - most MVNOs have throttled speeds - I know the US did it, but I didn't really know if the UK did it as well. Guess they do. And makes sense.
2. EE, as per the internet (I've never used them, although a friend of mine has it) is generally reliable - they have the first movers advantage in the UK though.
3. Three, I hear, is better now - when I was travelling to Edinburgh and Manchester and London via the trains, I saw that 3 did have coverage in areas O2 didn't. But that's not to say that 3 had really good coverage in the countryside - they usually get the flak because they rely on 2G roaming agreements with other operators, so it's your luck. 3 also has 800Mhz for 4G as well.

Didn't know that Voda and EE did CA.

As for wifi calling - it depends on both the phone and the network operator. 3 has their own third party app which works across all phones, while the native solutions ary from manufacturer to manufacturer. All operators (except - you guessed it, O2!) support VoLTE.

Long story short, it looks like O2 isn't actively developing their network - they're slow on the spectrums, slow on the speeds (?), slow on VoLTE. And whilst I cannot comment about the other operators' performance in London, O2 is crap.

Trouble is, Giffgaff is the cheapest prepaid service of the lot... and is usually decent for general browsing and basic tethering (I've done it), but signals? Erm.... look elsewhere!