NINTENDO The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD announced, features new controls

[CerebralTiger]

Can anybody explain me what's the hype xDDDDDDDD Nintendo decides a decade later to release an HD version while people played the shit out of this on the dolphin with HD texture pack in 4k.

I'd gladly explain, but this video does a better job

The biggest improvements for me are:

- much improved controls (both motion and button)
- QOL improvements like making Fi's annoying interrupts optional
- removal of the pastel filter that made it look blurry and weird on dolphin with HD texture pack in 4k lol

 

[CerebralTiger]

Oh and, it goes without saying but this runs at 60fps, whereas on dolphin you can get an interpolated 30fps at best

 

[EternalBlizzard]

I'd gladly explain, but this video does a better job

The biggest improvements for me are:

- much improved controls (both motion and button)
- QOL improvements like making Fi's annoying interrupts optional
- removal of the pastel filter that made it look blurry and weird on dolphin with HD texture pack in 4k lol

Dunno what blurriness are you talking about lol xD

Oh and, it goes without saying but this runs at 60fps, whereas on dolphin you can get an interpolated 30fps at best

You mean interpolated 60 FPS xD Dolphin ran 30 fps just fine.

But anyways if people wanna pay 60$ which is the price for a full game for QOL changes instead, what can i say xD

 

[EternalBlizzard]

Nintendiots

I personally think they are buying just because it's on the switch. If Nintendo didn't do those so called "QOL" changes you'd still see the idiots buying it cuz it's Nintendo

 

[Necrokiller]

I personally think they are buying just because it's on the switch. If Nintendo didn't do those so called "QOL" changes you'd still see the idiots buying it cuz it's Nintendo

Gimmick motion control, skippable cut scenes, fast forward dialogues, "streamlined item info", REMOVE FILTER! Imagine listing these free patch worthy updates as features worth paying $60 for

I wouldn't be surprised if they add another $30 update for "TURN OFF SUBTITLES", "REMAP BUTTONS", "ADJUST VOLUME", "DISABLE HUD FOR OLED"

 

[EternalBlizzard]

Gimmick motion control, skippable cut scenes, fast forward dialogues, "streamlined item info", REMOVE FILTER! Imagine listing these free patch worthy updates as features worth paying $60 for

I wouldn't be surprised if they add another $30 update for "TURN OFF SUBTITLES", "REMAP BUTTONS", "ADJUST VOLUME", "DISABLE HUD FOR OLED"

Burgerkids as fanboys. Ab ye to hona he xD

 

[CerebralTiger]

This one

There's this 'painterly' screen-space filter applied to the original game that makes everything look a little hazy in motion.
Also, notice the improved texture work here on the ground

Particle effects have also been improved (Switch-left, Dolphin-right)

You mean interpolated 60 FPS xD Dolphin ran 30 fps just fine.

I mean it's interpolated from 30fps, so it's still 30fps lol. The frame time is still 33.33ms. Weren't you criticizing people who play 30fps games the other day?

Gimmick motion control, skippable cut scenes, fast forward dialogues, "streamlined item info", REMOVE FILTER! Imagine listing these free patch worthy updates as features worth paying $60 for

The "gimmick motion controls" were already there in the original. The Switch version improves upon them, thanks in part to the superior gyro functionality of the Joy-cons. Imagine ignoring the fact that this is the only version of Skyward Sword that actually offers full button/stick controls

 

[Necrokiller]

Also, notice the improved texture work here on the ground

LMAO, this is like asking to identify 0xAF vs 2xAF. Both look god awful. Such filtering, much anisotropic

 

[EternalBlizzard]

If you are really amazed by that ground texture, there is a new free texture repack being done by a guy that looks much better.

The point is, it'd be free

Particle effects have also been improved (Switch-left, Dolphin-right)

yeah ofcourse, some things would be still different. Btw the dolphin/wii version did a better job at the fuzzy bloom effect. It was meant that way imo xDDDDDDD Dunno what the devs were thinking. Now it looks like Shiny pokemon card sprite with some sprinkles.

I mean it's interpolated from 30fps, so it's still 30fps lol. The frame time is still 33.33ms. Weren't you criticizing people who play 30fps games the other day?

I was. But that didn't mean you had to go ahead spend $60 on just the patch mate. Get a grip

 

[EternalBlizzard]

Oh wait that's my bad. The left one is the switch. Watched so many comparisons it all got jumbled up. But anyways, I'm glad you'll atleast get the particle effects worth the 60$

 

[Necrokiller]

If you are really amazed by that ground texture, there is a new free texture repack being done by a guy that looks much better.

I think he purposely posted a misleading comparison. The brick texture he pointed out as an "improvement" in the "HD" Switch version is clearly visible in the emulated version from this angle. Point is, its barely something that even stands out in the updated "HD" version.

It actually gives the impression that the Switch version is completely devoid of any textures, let alone improved filtering lmao

I was. But that didn't mean you had to go ahead spend $60 on just the patch mate. Get a grip

You're underestimating his new found fetish for Nintendo

 

[EternalBlizzard]

I think he purposely posted a misleading comparison.


You're underestimating his new found fetish for Nintendo

LMAOO $120. Man xD



Btw now that I look closely, the fuzzy bloom is still present in the original. CT's screen didn't show enough particles. They just increased the quantity and changed it to orange, lmao.

 

[Necrokiller]

Dunno what blurriness are you talking about lol xD

You know which blurriness he isn't talking about? Playing the game in docked mode and upscaling 1080p (assuming thats the actual internal rendering resolution) to a 4K TV

 

[EternalBlizzard]

You know which blurriness he isn't talking about? Playing the game in docked mode and upscaling 1080p (assuming thats the actual internal rendering resolution) to a 4K TV

Oh well, that's what happens when you argue with CT. Misleading and hiding facts to suit his own agenda Gotten used to it in this short period of time I got to know him xD

 

[EternalBlizzard]

You're underestimating his new found fetish for Nintendo

Btw, I wouldn't have argued if you had shown me this earlier Now this makes me look like an idiot for arguing with him xD

 

[CerebralTiger]

LMAO, this is like asking to identify 0xAF vs 2xAF. Both look god awful. Such filtering, much anisotropic

Ironically, it's the dolphin version that has a high amount of AF applied, and the ground texture still looks worse

If you are really amazed by that ground texture, there is a new free texture repack being done by a guy that looks much better.

Still looks worse

Damn, the pastel filter is so obvious in these Dolphin screens lol.

Btw now that I look closely, the fuzzy bloom is still present in the original. CT's screen didn't show enough particles. They just increased the quantity and changed it to orange, lmao.
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They're definitely lower res because they look softer here (and in your screenshot).

The quantity could be different due to the image likely being captured at a slightly different instance. Wasn't pointing out the fuzzy bloom. They didn't really change it to orange either, because that area is lit differently in the Switch screenshot (can't recall if this area had multiple ToD).

Looks like we have another case of someone confusing the Switch version with the right image

I was. But that didn't mean you had to go ahead spend $60 on just the patch mate. Get a grip

60fps + button/stick controls + other QoL changes make it well worth it

 

[EternalBlizzard]

Ironically, it's the dolphin version that has a high amount of AF applied, and the ground texture still looks worse

Still looks worse

Damn, the pastel effect is so obvious in these Dolphin screens lol.

They're definitely lower res because they look softer here.

The quantity could be different due to the image likely being captured at a slightly different instance. Wasn't pointing out the fuzzy bloom. They didn't really change it to orange either, because that area is lit differently in the Switch screenshot (can't recall if this area had multiple ToD).



60fps + button/stick controls + other QoL changes make it well worth it

You should stop covering your subjective reasons with objective ones. That's what made me argue in the first place xD Just say that you are a Zelda fan and if a 10 year old game that you really liked is being re-released with some QOL changes on the infamous Switch console, you'd buy it either way. Then people would have no reason to point things out.

On the other hand if you say things like

60fps + button/stick controls + other QoL changes make it well worth it

Subjectively speaking, might be well worth it for you or the fanboys. Objectively speaking that's really bullshit. People are bound to say "nice logic", where's the actual game? You are paying 60$ for a 10 year old game with QOL changes when normally 60$ is the price tag for a fresh new game? Anybody can see this stuff is aimed at fanboys rather than the general populace which Nintendo seem to have quite a lot of them, indeed.

 

[Necrokiller]

Looks like we have another case of someone confusing the Switch version with the right image

Nope. Just shocked that the differences are being called worthy of $60. Even modders do more work than Nintendo and they do it for free.

The visuals look terrible to me even by Switch standards. Dolphin versions at the very least look crisp with better textures and higher resolutions. The end result of the docked version on a 4K TV will look godawful

 

[CerebralTiger]

You should stop covering your subjective reasons with objective ones.

- the Dolphin version objectively looks worse due to the pastel filter
- the Switch version objectively plays due to better due to better controls
- the Switch version objectively runs better due to double the frame rate

Which part is subjective?

I mean, sure, whether all this is worth $60 is subjective. It's definitely worth it to me, and also Necrokiller, who has gone on record in saying that "frame rate is king" and that the original Skyward Sword had "gimmick motion controls"

 

[Necrokiller]

and also Necrokiller, who has gone on record to say that "frame rate is king" and that the original Skyward Sword had "gimmick motion controls"

Guess what, Forza Horizon 5 is not an "HD" version of a 10 years old game AND it is on Game Pass and I'm not paying $60 for it. Stop embarrassing yourself more than you already have