MULTI NPD: Momentum swings from subscription (Game Pass) towards premium releases (Necrokiller: "But value!")

[CerebralTiger]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686730639041835008

 

[Necrokiller]

But but but Starfield is a "big new premium game" and also on a subscription model and CerebralTiger won't be spending any money on it.

This is value

Also, CerebralTiger low-key igoring PC handhelds having a positive effect on the industry

 

[CerebralTiger]

Clearly, he's referring to premium games that aren't available day one on a sub

Also, Necrokiller low-key ignoring the part where he said "a bit". Cool I guess

Also, for Necrokiller's info, the DualSense Edge is the best selling accessory of 2023 in the US

 

[Necrokiller]

Clearly, he's referring to premium games that aren't available day one on a sub

So there is no option to obtain such value. Doesn't disprove the value being provided where they are available day one.

Also, Necrokiller low-key ignoring the part where he said "a bit". Cool I guess

We DO know that they DID help, however. Sucks for naysayers

Also, for Necrokiller's info, the DualSense Edge is the best selling accessory of 2023 in the US

Not surprised. The Elite Series controller has been the best selling accessory in the past too. Sony has to copy whatever MS is doing afterall

Meanwhile, Steam API giving way more customization for freeeee

 

[CerebralTiger]

So there is no option to obtain such value. Doesn't disprove the value being provided where they are available day one.

You speak with your wallet. If you want more games to offer said "value", don't buy premium content and wait for it to be available on a catalog subscription. MS puts all its games on Game Pass anyway. If that were enough to satisfy the needs of gamers, the latter wouldn't turn towards premium content being offered on their own and other platforms. A stagnant subscriber count of 25 million across Xbox and PC ain't lookin' so hot

We DO know that they DID help, however. Sucks for naysayers

A minuscule contribution compared to the ~130 million Nintendo Switch consoles out there

Sony has to copy whatever MS is doing afterall

Just like it copied gyro, haptics, adaptive triggers, touchpad, light bar, and controller speaker from MS. Oh wait

 

[Necrokiller]

You speak with your wallet. If you want more games to offer said "value", don't buy premium content and wait for it to be available on a catalog subscription.

But you can't if you don't have the choice. Let us know when premium content like Starfield is available on your subscription of choice LMAOOOO

A minuscule contribution

A net positive effect on an industrial scale at large is big enough

Just like it copied gyro, haptics, adaptive triggers, touchpad, light bar, and controller speaker from MS. Oh wait

Or paid online and subscription models similar to Game Pass, the biggest revenue streams CerebralTiger got sucked in

 

[CerebralTiger]

But you can't if you don't have the choice

There's always a choice. Don't buy a PS5 and a copy of Spider-Man 2. Stick to the ever-growing list of first-party and third-party titles, including premiumfield, that MS offers day one in its Game Pass catalog

A net positive effect on an industrial scale at large is big enough

*yawn* tell me when they sell a noteworthy fraction of the Switch

 

[Necrokiller]

There's always a choice.

Nope. Not everyone can afford multiple platforms even if they want.

*yawn* tell me when they sell a noteworthy fraction of the Switch

*yawn* I don't see Matt downplaying the handhelds by changing goal posts. Because its irrelevant. Because any person with some common sense knows the market and logistics of distribution are different. Infact, he even calls it an "exciting new segment". We all know how CerebralTiger would jump to tell us Steam Deck isn't doing well so obviously this isn't gonna sit well with him

 

[CerebralTiger]

Nope. Not everyone can afford multiple platforms even if they want.

That's what I said. Get an Xbox and stick to its day one Game Pass library. Stop buying PS5s and Spider-Mans. Speak with your wallet

 

[Necrokiller]

That's what I said. Get an Xbox and stick to its day one Game Pass library. Stop buying PS5s and Spider-Mans. Speak with your wallet

But people like yourself had hoped to pay the premium price for Starfield on their PS5 but now they can't. Doesn't say anything about the excellent value Game Pass is providing to users who can reap the benefits

 

[CerebralTiger]

People like myself? I wouldn't play Borefield for free, let alone pay for it or a subscription in order to play it

 

[Necrokiller]

People like myself? I wouldn't play Borefield for free, let alone pay for it or a subscription in order to play it

Ofcourse, now you wouldn't. But someone who single handedly drove the failed hype train for No Man's Sky and Scam CiTizen on PG is going to have a hard time telling us that Starfield doesn't interest him

 

[CerebralTiger]

No Man's Sky seamlessly lets you enter and exit a planet's atmosphere, as does Star CiTizen, even in its current alpha state. Borefield does not. Let that thought sink into the depths of someone who was disappointed by the lack of such a seamless experience in The Outer Worlds

FWIW I don't even own No Man's Sky or ever played it

 

[Necrokiller]

someone who was disappointed by the lack of such a seamless experience in The Outer Worlds

I was? I don't recall since I thoroughly enjoyed the game at the end of the day

On the other hand:

No Man's Sky seamlessly lets you enter and exit a planet's atmospher

FWIW I don't even own No Man's Sky or ever played it

Your hype train failed so miserably that one game you didn't even end up buying and the other is stuck in development hell as the devs YOU paid chill in their mansions and yachts