Confirmation that the thread has been infected with 'the chandersonz virus' , btw this particular roundtable article has been discussed enough for now, though the discussion is still incomplete cause the race is still on!Topic: Why 360 won and PS33 failed in Pak
Disscussion: "MGS > LO" , then "MGS > GTA" , "MGS4 didin't get a chance to sell alot because of GTA 4"
what's more shocking that even those PS3 owners freely talk about the useless-ness of said features, innit ?With all that negativity towards the PS3, and the 'useless' features it holds for people in Pakistan, I'm shocked to see so many people own one here at PG alone.
59.99$ actually, maybe you're talking about Canada.the price for a newly released game in North America is same on the X360 and the PS3 i.e. $69.
that's basically it, isn't it. Eg, older PG members would know i've been saying since 2007 that i would most likely play Resident Evil 5 on launch, but i was not keen on purchasing a 360 either, but then i found a really good price point and, well, went for it.Because if a guy doesn't like HALO (forgive me for saying that USUF lol), or Fable, Forza etc. then why would they buy X360? Just because statistics say its selling more? I don't think so. Maybe coz its cheap for multi-platform games.
visit saddar, abdullah haroon road etc, all the data you need can be sampled there. of course we don't have our own versions of NPD here, but that's besides the point :But where is the statistical data everyone talks about for Pakistan? It would surely help because the actual numeric difference would decide if its just selling less, or is a total failure
Worldwide? Umm NO WAY man. You have no idea the amount of people who just buy the PS3 coz its a 'better Blu-ray player with added functions of next-gen gaming'. Trust me, people like that DO exists here :mental . And that was a huge selling point for the PS2 as well, a DVD player built in. You can say its over-priced, people will always welcome a price drop, but now you say that even outside Pak the extra features are useless, is something very fanboyish (for the lack of a better word).doesn't that just mean that the "advantages" of blu ray and most of the PS3's beneficial features are considered useless world wide ? especially since there are 99$ stand alone blu ray players available in the market as well.
Talking about Canada, the difference is not as huge as United States. Not at all. And take Japan now, the Xbox 360 has POOR sales compared to PS3, even though PS3 is still expensive there. Same price can be related between games, not the hardware itself. I mean, as of beginning of 2009, the Japan sales figure for Xbox 360 is low enough to label it as a failure there. But not so much in other countries.look at your own home land/continent, the 360 hardware/software sells tremendously more compared to the PS3, even though everything sells at the same price there.
Ahsan, you're telling us all PS3 owners here are using it as a decoration piece?PS3 phail in Pakistan = No one ... and I mean NO ONE wants to pay 1000s for a game when they are used to piracy since the time of games on floppy discs and those sega cartridges etc!
but that's just it, isn't it, especially for a tech savvy place like the states, if the PS3 was really considered such a technical marvel there, it wouldn't be lagging behind in the sales department so much, just 150k units sold last month, that doesn't speak volumes.but now you say that even outside Pak the extra features are useless, is something very fanboyish (for the lack of a better word).
No, but pretty close, many PS3 owners on PG have only got libraries of 3~5 games at max, and even then they take mighty precautions (or in some people's cases coughbaadshahcough wait months upon months until their game drops a thousand rupees or so) that sums up to a hefty sum, compared to that the average 360 pakistani owner has a whole bunch more of games.Ahsan, you're telling us all PS3 owners here are using it as a decoration piece?
No you're not Anyway, that example was to demonstrate that sales figures shouldn't matter to any GAMER. It shouldn't influence anyones decision in any way.saying japan is a victory for the PS3 is saying like how i'm more awesome than most PG members, totally obvious.
Like I said before, its totally valid to say its over-priced.but that's just it, isn't it, especially for a tech savvy place like the states, if the PS3 was really considered such a technical marvel there, it wouldn't be lagging behind in the sales department so much, just 150k units sold last month, that doesn't speak volumes.
Its ALL about the price yaar. Doesn't make the console itself better or worse. C'mon man am I asking for too much for you to understand? Now if someone can enlighten us by sharing the Xbox 360 Elite vs PS3 sales figures, that would atleast give us some perspective on the real deal.12k units sold per week ? that's still pretty low. Comparatively when you see US numbers, the 360 outsells the PS3 by the margin of hundreds of thousands of units each month, easily making up and over taking the gap Japan makes.
And all those are only the exclusives ... because those people just buy the multiplat games for the PC or X360 (Anyone who has a PS3 has those or atleast one of those) ... !No, but pretty close, many PS3 owners on PG have only got libraries of 3~5 games at max,
USA population = more than 305,000,000but then again, it's not like the PS3 is doing "well" in Japan either, weekly sales put the PS3 at what, 12k units sold per week ? that's still pretty low. Comparatively when you see US numbers, the 360 outsells the PS3 by the margin of hundreds of thousands of units each month, easily making up and over taking the gap Japan makes.
Heh, What's bad if you are so happy with your 3~5 games? And you can exchange them anytime to play more games. 3-5 games are more than enough when you also got MP to deal with. :8No, but pretty close, many PS3 owners on PG have only got libraries of 3~5 games at max, and even then they take mighty precautions (or in some people's cases coughbaadshahcough wait months upon months until their game drops a thousand rupees or so) that sums up to a hefty sum
I know lol, why reminding again and again. Exact as in gameplay. :8hey badshah, we're getting the exact same LBP (your words, not mine :8) on the PSP for free too :8
Don't take everything literally. I used that only to explain another point. If I must answer your question, then its piracy. Piracy didn't invade PS3 yet. But did so in the PS2 era.Anyone whos going to use the "Japanese" card on the PS3 mind explaining the PS2 sales in Pakistan ?
one xbox 360 is the same as 11 ps3's ?I remember Victor Lucas putting the complexity of PS3 into perspective, "Xbox 360 is like ONE 11-gallons jug. PS3 is like ELEVEN 1-gallon jugs".
Thats my point. Im pretty sure Elite sales are very low compared to Arcade. So feature by feature its not a fair comparison at all. Wouldn't things be different if Elite was the only console available?they don't label them separately in sales or quarterly reports, but obviously the arcade probably sells more than the elite's, still worth noting that all those bundles that get gulped up by the populace are elite's, never arcade's. So the demand is there.
Agreed. Ofcourse it is. Whats better than to give the users some choice? But let me tell you, PS3's raw power and all its extras, [like Crysis ], are ahead of its time. When things become more common in every household (like Blu-ray playback and such), and eventually the PS3 could play pirated games, then only will you realize what a beast it is.but then again, isn't that just smart marketing on MS's part ? introducing a cheap entry level system that can play every game just fine, it just lacks some features that are optional, not mandatory for any game
ROFLMAO! Thats not what it means. You need to be able to have some understanding of how the hardware works under the hood to understand that.one xbox 360 is the same as 11 ps3's ?
why you are paying american rates in Pakistan. Search cheaper region like Turkey. 13k for 13 months. Ms does not careShadowdragoo said:no idea how that is a steal by wasting 3500 rupees per month and for games that are removed before you can finish them off.xbox gamepass is garbage with no local prices
There are no such thing as "bad design" bro, its all "artistic vision" nowEternalBlizzard said:Is it just me or people lately seem to defend every bad game design decision made by the devs and try to give bullshit reasons for that? Or perhaps it's because I'm on reddit and discord