Difference bw Original & Refurb

devildx · May 14, 2013

Hey Guyz. need ur help.
Ryt now HTC and other Brands have alot of refurb ph in the market.
i need ur advice and Expertise how to distinguish bw orig and refurb.
here is one little example i saw in HTc.
HTC Wildfire S = 12000 Org , 8500 Refurb.
thats the amount difference. but how to know frm Phone.

keyboardbuyer · May 14, 2013

There is a red sticked on it from the company when you open its cover dont remember what actually is written on it. I had a refurbished HTC Desire HD

devildx · May 15, 2013

Can u share any Pic for that ... also i heard something about Software. not sure .
but as i heard that it dont get update or Difference in Software version ?

keyboardbuyer · May 15, 2013

I dont have it now so cant show you the sticker. The software thing is hoax.

devildx · May 15, 2013

thanks for the Info. but the sellers in market already remove the Sticker. so how should i recognize it ?

:crying:

keyboardbuyer · May 15, 2013

[MENTION=13193]devildx[/MENTION] take a expert with you who knows the difference between opened and sealed set. If there is no sticker it will cost even less because then its repaired by a local technician not by the company:wink2:.

devildx · May 15, 2013

i can realize the difference bw Sealed or Unsealed.. but the thing is i differentiating bw refurb and Org is little bit hard.
also can u let me know the Kernel Version of ur Desire Hd . as u says its Refurb..

keyboardbuyer · May 15, 2013

keyboardbuyer said:
I had a refurbished HTC Desire HD

Its not with me now I have sold it [MENTION=13193]devildx[/MENTION]

devildx · May 16, 2013

need more advice

djkido316 · May 16, 2013

Well, Refurbished sets does not have Protective SEAL on its screws. and Casing would a little loose. Buttons are bit hard.

There is a easier method for recognizing a Wildfire S is by Installing Custom Recover on it. If it does not work it means it is ORIGINAL WFS12. if it does its probably refurbished i'll explain it below!

WFS12 : Manufactured in late 2012 most of them are Original not refurb, also they contain new kernel and 2.3.5 gingerbread instead of 2.3.3, and Custom Recovery which works fine on older WFS models wont work on WFS12 cause it requires a specific version of CWM/TWP. also CM based rom does not work on WFS12 like they do on other WFS, it requires a kernel to flash after the rom to make it work!

WFS11 : Manufactured somewhere between 2011, Comes with 2.3.3 gingerbread and older kernel which makes any recovery or any custom firmware to work with it. Without the need of any special kernel or specific version of CWM.

There is one other way.

Ask the shop owner to boot the phone in fastboot and check if its S-ON or S-OFF. . S-OFF are mostly refurbished, and S-ON are mostly ORIGINAL.

devildx · May 17, 2013

djkido316 said:
Well, Refurbished sets does not have Protective SEAL on its screws. and Casing would a little loose. Buttons are bit hard.

There is a easier method for recognizing a Wildfire S is by Installing Custom Recover on it. If it does not work it means it is ORIGINAL WFS12. if it does its probably refurbished i'll explain it below!

WFS12 : Manufactured in late 2012 most of them are Original not refurb, also they contain new kernel and 2.3.5 gingerbread instead of 2.3.3, and Custom Recovery which works fine on older WFS models wont work on WFS12 cause it requires a specific version of CWM/TWP. also CM based rom does not work on WFS12 like they do on other WFS, it requires a kernel to flash after the rom to make it work!

WFS11 : Manufactured somewhere between 2011, Comes with 2.3.3 gingerbread and older kernel which makes any recovery or any custom firmware to work with it. Without the need of any special kernel or specific version of CWM.

There is one other way.

Ask the shop owner to boot the phone in fastboot and check if its S-ON or S-OFF. . S-OFF are mostly refurbished, and S-ON are mostly ORIGINAL.

Thanks for your Brief Ans.
one thing i want to clear that it can be recognize by Kernel Version ?? How ??
also S-On or S-OFF meaning

djkido316 · May 17, 2013

devildx said:
Thanks for your Brief Ans.
one thing i want to clear that it can be recognize by Kernel Version ?? How ??
also S-On or S-OFF meaning

Boot the Phone in fastboot, If it is S-ON and Locked bootloader.. it might be a original set.. but the better way is to install custom Recovery ie CWM. if it works then its refurbished.. if it doesnt that means its manufactured in 2012 so less chances of being refurbished, and Fastboot will also show its manufacturing date so you can get a better idea about its condition!

S-ON-OFF is a security by HTC. if you remove your sim card jack from the cellphone for repairing then it should be s-off. if its not repaired itll be S-ON. btw some people also S-OFF their WFS via XTC clip but Brand new Phone should be with S-ON security.

Nomad · May 17, 2013

djkido316 said:
Boot the Phone in fastboot, If it is S-ON and Locked bootloader.. it might be a original set.. but the better way is to install custom Recovery ie CWM. if it works then its refurbished.. if it doesnt that means its manufactured in 2012 so less chances of being refurbished, and Fastboot will also show its manufacturing date so you can get a better idea about its condition!

S-ON-OFF is a security by HTC. if you remove your sim card jack from the cellphone for repairing then it should be s-off. if its not repaired itll be S-ON. btw some people also S-OFF their WFS via XTC clip but Brand new Phone should be with S-ON security.

Kindly also give him address of the shopkeeper who will allow him to install CWM before purchasing the phone

djkido316 · May 17, 2013

Nomad said:
Kindly also give him address of the shopkeeper who will allow him to install CWM before purchasing the phone

Yeah most of them would mind flashing CWM but no one would mind booting it in fastboot.. So one can check it through fastboot.

devildx · May 17, 2013

djkido316 said:
Yeah most of them would mind flashing CWM but no one would mind booting it in fastboot.. So one can check it through fastboot.

Do you know how to fast boot ??
tell me the way. i will do my self..

murtaza12 · May 17, 2013

Re: Difference bw Original & Refurb

devildx said:
Do you know how to fast boot ??
tell me the way. i will do my self..

Power off the phone.
Hold the power button + volume (up or down I don't remember)
Until it reaches fastboot mode.

Sent from my Xperia U using Tapatalk 2

djkido316 · May 17, 2013

murtaza12 said:
Power off the phone.
Hold the power button + volume (up or down I don't remember)
Until it reaches fastboot mode.

Sent from my Xperia U using Tapatalk 2

Yeah to get into fastboot..

Turn off the device
Hold Volume Down and Power button Untill it reaches fastboot
And Voila !!

thahim · May 18, 2013

Actually refurbish is the original branded phone but its used phone, you can distinguish by its screen protector, if it has an orignal one with no air balloons on it, it isn't a refurbish one.

There is major different that you can figure out.

djkido316 · May 21, 2013

thahim said:
Actually refurbish is the original branded phone but its used phone, you can distinguish by its screen protector, if it has an orignal one with no air balloons on it, it isn't a refurbish one.

There is major different that you can figure out.

Original Phones doesnt come with a Screen Protector in the first place, they just come with protective coating which is a thin piece of plastic.

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