Totally agree to Desolator.. PVP Guilds rock.. But a Guild is a good guild as long as the people in it are SERIOUS!.. I played in Legit WoW and was in a guild "Just For Fun" I was an officer in it.. Dont judge the guild by the name.. They were serious with PVP raids, arena teams and PVE Raids.. Loved it.. WoW Memories *sigh*