XBOX The Ascent Xbox series X exclusive Gameplay

While there are no hands-on impressions yet, the gameplay looks slow and clunky. Not what I expect from an isometric shooter.

Nex Machina is hands-down the best twin-stick shooter I've played. The setting is similar too. This doesn't look like it's going to dethrone it.

Geometry Wars: RE2 remains the best twin stick shooter and Nex Machina failed to dethrone it.

Yeah no, I wasn't talking about single-screen games.

Also, the legendary Eugene Jarvis worked on Nex Machina.

Well if we're changing goal posts from "twin stick shooter" to "single-screen twin-stick shooter", we might as well point out that technically Nex Machina a top-down shooter, not an isometric shooter (though this gets confused all the time).

This game is more similar to Alienation (same developer as) than Nex Machina.

Not changing goal posts, I just didn't make it clear I wasn't referring to the sub-category of single-screen games like Geometry Wars or Super Star Dust.

And yes, technically, Nex Machina is very much an isometric shooter by definition. The camera isn't positioned directly above the player character, therefore technically not top-down.

Wikipedia is not the best of sources, but this is accurate:

Despite the name, isometric computer graphics are not necessarily truly isometric—i.e., the x, y, and z axes are not necessarily oriented 120° to each other. Instead, a variety of angles occur; some form of parallel projection, such as dimetric projection with a 2:1 pixel ratio, is the most common.

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Nex Machina is very much an isometric shooter by definition.

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The developers disagree.

Official website is a good source:

In the vein of cult classics such Resogun and Robotron, Nex Machina is the ultimate top-down voxel shooter where everything can be blown up to pieces.

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https://housemarque.com/games/nexmachina

Official website doesn't say it isn't isometric. Top-down with a 3 dimensional view is isometric. Does the site classify Dead Nation and Alienation as isometric?

Necrokiller said:

Official website is a good source:

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Then we're in agreement that Cyberpunk 2077 is not an RPG?

Does the site classify Dead Nation and Alienation as isometric?

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The question is about what Nex Machina is classified as. And it is explicitly stated as a top-down shooter, not isometric.

As Cyberpunk 2077:

https://www.gog.com/game/cyberpunk_2077

That's not the official site. This is:

Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure story set in Night City, a megalopolis obsessed with power, glamour and body modification

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https://www.cyberpunk.net/us/en/

It used to say RPG where it now says action-adventure.

CerebralTiger said:

That's the official site. This is:



https://www.cyberpunk.net/us/en/

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LMAO. GoG is the developer's own official storefront.

action-adventure story

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Game detail explicity states the genre. It also listed as an RPG on all store fronts.

We're talking about the official site here, not what digital store fronts say. The term "RPG" was replaced with "action-adventure" on the official site. These are facts. Perhaps the store fronts weren't updated to conform with the game's revised vision? lol

Anyways, top-down can be 2D or 3D. When it's 3D, it's isometric.

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Anyways, top-down can be 2D or 3D. When it's 3D, it's isometric.

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The developer, like I already pointed out, disagrees with that idea.

Either way, Alienation has more in common with Ascent.

The developer calls it a top-down shooter, but that doesn't go against the definition of isometric.

The developer also does not refer to Alienation as isometric.

But Edge...

[CD Projekt's] reputation as a studio of remarkable technical prowess has been tarnished a little, however noble its intentions.

8/10[July 2015, p.98]

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So, a higher score than FF7R then.



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lol @ the dev touting 'verticality'. You can't even shoot outside of the 2D x,z plane in an isometric shooter.