StormFiber (By Cybernet) FTTH Discussion Thread

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Both PTCL and SF increased speeds with the increase in the monthly bill, however Nayatel increased the bill with no increase in packages.

As it stands, their ISB/RWP packages are extremely uncompetitive, so it's quite disappointing to see no increase in speeds at all.
 

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FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS!

PEACE, the first Chinese submarine cable system set to operate in Pakistan

PEACE Cable International Network Co., Ltd (PEACE Cable) and Cyber Internet Services (Cybernet), the leading Internet and data communication network service provider, have completed the construction and laying of PEACE submarine cable infrastructure in Pakistan. The Pakistan-Egypt segment of PEACE has completed final splicing, allowing connectivity from Karachi, Pakistan to Marseille, France to be operational.

 
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FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS!

PEACE, the first Chinese submarine cable system set to operate in Pakistan

PEACE Cable International Network Co., Ltd (PEACE Cable) and Cyber Internet Services (Cybernet), the leading Internet and data communication network service provider, have completed the construction and laying of PEACE submarine cable infrastructure in Pakistan. The Pakistan-Egypt segment of PEACE has completed final splicing, allowing connectivity from Karachi, Pakistan to Marseille, France to be operational.

I am currently in KSA, how is the ping to EU now? My biggest concern was the high ping to EU as I mainly play FPS games. From Karachi its usually fine but I am from Lahore and due to Pakistan's poor infrastructure and bad routing ping can add upto 20-40ms for other cities when connecting to international servers.
 
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I am currently in KSA, how is the ping to EU now? My biggest concern was the high ping to EU as I mainly play FPS games. From Karachi its usually fine but I am from Lahore and due to Pakistan's poor infrastructure and bad routing ping can add upto 20-40ms for other cities when connecting to international servers.
Latency to/from other cities is around 20-25ms (on fiber). I don't know how much of it can be improved further (maybe a bit?) But it seems about normal to me.

This is exactly why multiple providers (with fiber interconnectivity) should exist!
 

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ping is still crap to EU, is the new cable active yet?
As per the verbal discussion with the StormFiber NOC engineer on the phone a week ago. He told me, the cable will be ready to be utilized from November for commercial purposes. Cybernet is going to be the first ISP to utilize it since they are the landing partners of the cable and managing its CLS (Cable Landing Station).
 
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As per the verbal discussion with the StormFiber NOC engineer on the phone a week ago. He told me, the cable will be ready to be utilized from November for commercial purposes. Cybernet is going to be the first ISP to utilize it since they are the landing partners of the cable and managing its CLS (Cable Landing Station).
alright, thanks for the info.
 

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As per the verbal discussion with the StormFiber NOC engineer on the phone a week ago. He told me, the cable will be ready to be utilized from November for commercial purposes. Cybernet is going to be the first ISP to utilize it since they are the landing partners of the cable and managing its CLS (Cable Landing Station).
How they'll do it bro for example I'm from Sargodha they buy all bandwidth from Ptcl pie and i don't think any direct cable coming from Karachi to sargodha for Stprmfiber? Only Ptcl. In all Punjab major cities they using Ptcl node i think
 

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How they'll do it bro for example I'm from Sargodha they buy all bandwidth from Ptcl pie and i don't think any direct cable coming from Karachi to sargodha for Stprmfiber? Only Ptcl. In all Punjab major cities they using Ptcl node i think
Networks can use other companies' dark fiber to connect amongst themselves (translation: whether they use PTCL or Wateen or Multinet or someone else, the connection between cities would be between themselves).

International backhaul is only from Karachi, so in all cases, traffic will move from your home city > Karachi > international.
 

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Networks can use other companies' dark fiber to connect amongst themselves (translation: whether they use PTCL or Wateen or Multinet or someone else, the connection between cities would be between themselves).

International backhaul is only from Karachi, so in all cases, traffic will move from your home city > Karachi > international.
But how they can transfer because they are using Pie here in Sargodha not even Tw when data go Karachi through Ptcl how they can convert? I'm lost bro
 

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Networks can use other companies' dark fiber to connect amongst themselves (translation: whether they use PTCL or Wateen or Multinet or someone else, the connection between cities would be between themselves).

International backhaul is only from Karachi, so in all cases, traffic will move from your home city > Karachi > international.
Hi bro i knew you good in internet stuff so please help me I'mfrom Sargodha city and only pie routes available here and i done a tracert and found out my route is going through Ptcl Islamabad not from Lahore or Karachi that's why I'm getting bad pings. So i guess my data go from Sargodha to Islamabad and then back to Karachi so here's my tracert please check 182.184.2.189 is Ptcl ip Islamabad btw
 

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shaheerk

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But how they can transfer because they are using Pie here in Sargodha not even Tw when data go Karachi through Ptcl how they can convert? I'm lost bro
That depends on the ISP and their choice of routing (or their system). They could either have a direct connection with PIE for outside Karachi, or they could have an internal connection to SF Karachi which is also using PIE, or something else.

Basically, when we say they're using PIE or TW, it's the external network the ISP connects to.
 

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Hi bro i knew you good in internet stuff so please help me I'mfrom Sargodha city and only pie routes available here and i done a tracert and found out my route is going through Ptcl Islamabad not from Lahore or Karachi that's why I'm getting bad pings. So i guess my data go from Sargodha to Islamabad and then back to Karachi so here's my tracert please check 182.184.2.189 is Ptcl ip Islamabad btw
Try tracing to 8.8.8.8 as well as 1.1.1.1 and share what you get.
 

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Okay - that doesn't look like Islamabad pings.

I know pings between Islamabad and Lahore are around 8ms.
Pings from Islamabad to Karachi are around 22ms (at best).

So by that logic, your pings should be around 30 or 31 (basically simple maths + extra buffer) but they're not. Maybe your traffic is being routed via Lahore (there are three internet exchange points, from what I know - Isb, Lhr and Khi). How SF routes your traffic, there's no way because the 10.x.x.x IPs are all internal.

So - while I'm surprised you get latencies that are a wee bit higher than the Islamabad folk, it's not bad. Everything outside of SF's domain depends on PIE/TW/Peace (if they're using it).

Cloudflare/Google are only a few ms higher (Cloudflare would give 24/25ms, Google would give around 40-42ms). If anything, yours should be 5-7ms lower, but not sure how they've routed the traffic.

As for the geolocation, that depends on the ISP - I've gotten Khanewal on PTCL whilst being in Pindi.
 

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Okay - that doesn't look like Islamabad pings.

I know pings between Islamabad and Lahore are around 8ms.
Pings from Islamabad to Karachi are around 22ms (at best).

So by that logic, your pings should be around 30 or 31 (basically simple maths + extra buffer) but they're not. Maybe your traffic is being routed via Lahore (there are three internet exchange points, from what I know - Isb, Lhr and Khi). How SF routes your traffic, there's no way because the 10.x.x.x IPs are all internal.

So - while I'm surprised you get latencies that are a wee bit higher than the Islamabad folk, it's not bad. Everything outside of SF's domain depends on PIE/TW/Peace (if they're using it).

Cloudflare/Google are only a few ms higher (Cloudflare would give 24/25ms, Google would give around 40-42ms). If anything, yours should be 5-7ms lower, but not sure how they've routed the traffic.

As for the geolocation, that depends on the ISP - I've gotten Khanewal on PTCL whilst being in Pindi.
Bro on oakla speed test i get 7ms on Ptcl Lahore, 13ms on Ptcl Islamabad and Karachi 23ms (best) don't how they doing my routing and which dns you use on Pie internet?
 

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DNS has nothing to do with the routing - perhaps the way traffic from Okara is routed is different.

I use Google's DNS (I'm not on SF, btw).
 
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