Would you let your GF wear anything she wants? Your wife?

Would you let your Girlfriend / Wife wear anything she wants?


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opethian

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All of Islam? Or the parts of it based on convenience?

See, I don't see anyone pointing fingers at a guy who stares at and objectifies women, but 9 out of 10 would say oh look at that slut she is wearing a tight jeans and tee.
:) very logical
Just like this thread
Most people r condemning girls no one is objecting o baba mard ki b Koi zimadari hai
I was in Zanzibar n I couldn't see a more homogeneous mix of western n hardcore Arabic culture on one place
But everyone was within their limits
Westerns respecting local laws to cover their bodies when roaming inside the cities n locals avoided to go to beaches where westerns had liberty to dress as they like
Everyone was minding its own business except semi hypocrite Muslims like us, wearing chaddiz n doing full tarou program n commenting on everyone whether she was naked or in full abaya ...
Asians especially subcontinent ppl behave almost similar where ever they go
Most of Islamic scholars in this thread must he having totaas in their computers but instead of correcting themselves ist they r worried to take others with them to heaven :)
N again those who don't wanna listen also don't have any respect for a religion n instead of arguing with a hypocrite they end up disrespecting a religion
Never ending story ... Never ending debate :)

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LeGenD123

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Open to subjective analysis.

Where do you draw the line?

Do you have different sets of rules for girlfriends and wives?

Would you stop her from wearing half sleeves? Sleeveless tops? Or would stop her from wearing mini skirts?

And would that effort be changed if you get married to her.

The reason I ask this question is because of a certain conundrum I am faced with related to someone's life.
Their is distinction between a wife and a GF.

GF = Potential mate
Wife = legitimate mate

I would consider Wife here.

When two people marry each other, it is important for both to define boundaries for their relationship. Both husband and wife may have expectations from each other and concerns about some matters which should be conveyed to each other. In short, compromises have to be reached in certain matters in any relationship.

In case of Islamic nikah, husband have the responsibility for "protecting" his family from societal evils. He have the right to dictate his wife about do's and dont's of a relationship as per Islamic values, I think that same is true for wife as well. Purpose of dictation is not abuse the spouse but to protect the spouse from societal evils.

Realistically, some level of dictation occurs frequently in a marriage from either individual, husband or wife, on various matters. So no need to overthink about this and become a pacifist.

Women do not appreciate pacifists.
 

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As i said i totally agree. Shoving islam in everyones face is counter-productive , as proven in your case. The Lord says preach with tact and a sweet/persuasive/non-condemning tone. Most of the preachers slept through that class.
Give people glad tidings for the good they do and warn them from doing evil. Majority of preachers skip the glad tidings part. Its all doom and gloom. This is totally wrong.
Though music is haram if we consider Islamic law. The punishment described is authentic based in Hadith.
But to just flat out tell someone they are going to hell is not the way to preach. Every real learned scholar i ve heard/ read/seen uses a polite tone and a way of acheiving common ground then delivering the islamic point of view . i would urge you not to listen to what your heart says alone. But study Islam yourself. Read authentic Islamic texts. You will learn to love the religion . I ve read both Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim (the two most authentic texts on Hadith) as well as tranlation/interpretations of the Quran. i found them immensly simple in their meaning and fulfilling. Yes , there are things which Islam prohibits. We must obey those laws for our own good . Even in worldly matters, why do you obey laws? Why not listen to your heart and for example slam your car into a motorcyclist blocking your way on the road? Why? Because its wrong and unlawful. Islamic laws are the same , their reasoning both logical and in the interest of the follower , if you study them.
As i said earlier my posts were merely conveying what Islam says on the issue. I m not forcing anyone to anything. You may draw your own conclusions.

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I strongly agree with u bro
But a wise guy observers a debate looks at the general condition of the people n if the souls could be salvaged only then he starts his sermon n again he has to be a perfect example of what he is saying, just like I personally can't start a sermon on saying regular prayers or any other fundamental principle unless I'm not a true practitioner
On a highway we see many sign boards, they r there to indicate something show us the way, its our choice whether to obey them or not they don't fly n slam into our face, they have done their job n we will realize we missed the right signboard when we will reach a destination n ascertain we have gone a wrong way
I'm sure everyone does face such realization when he gets to a wrong point at a right time in his life just let him flow don't force to change his way
Saying ull goto hell in polite or harsh tone means same, why convince someone with terrorizing words when he will be convinced someday when he will be of right age n wisdom
Even God doesn't slap us on a wrong doing, He let us be as we r n someday we do realize our mistakes partially or completely
May we get a right direction sooner than our foretold time!

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[MENTION=882]LeGenD123[/MENTION] I hope tari baat inko samaj aye Cause I fear there r people who never heard such things ever in their lives n for them wife n girl friend has not a big difference ... Such people can never comprehend concept of wife n husband in Islam
But u explained things beautifully

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I strongly agree with u bro
But a wise guy observers a debate looks at the general condition of the people n if the souls could be salvaged only then he starts his sermon n again he has to be a perfect example of what he is saying, just like I personally can't start a sermon on saying regular prayers or any other fundamental principle unless I'm not a true practitioner
On a highway we see many sign boards, they r there to indicate something show us the way, its our choice whether to obey them or not they don't fly n slam into our face, they have done their job n we will realize we missed the right signboard when we will reach a destination n ascertain we have gone a wrong way
I'm sure everyone does face such realization when he gets to a wrong point at a right time in his life just let him flow don't force to change his way
Saying ull goto hell in polite or harsh tone means same, why convince someone with terrorizing words when he will be convinced someday when he will be of right age n wisdom
Even God doesn't slap us on a wrong doing, He let us be as we r n someday we do realize our mistakes partially or completely
May we get a right direction sooner than our foretold time!

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I agree. I was merely conveying the message. At no time did i try to impose my views on anyone. What i did try to do was to present Islam's stance. Hell and punishment is a reality as is Heaven and eternal pleasure. To state punishments for violating Islamic laws is not terrorizing, it is simply stating how it is. I tried to simply convey what islam says on the subject(dont know how succesful i was). It is up to the reader to draw his/her own conclusions. May the Lord grant each of us the will to steer ourselves towards His Path. Ameen.

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I agree. I was merely conveying the message. At no time did i try to impose my views on anyone. What i did try to do was to present Islam's stance. Hell and punishment is a reality as is Heaven and eternal pleasure. To state punishments for violating Islamic laws is not terrorizing, it is simply stating how it is. I tried to simply convey what islam says on the subject(dont know how succesful i was). It is up to the reader to draw his/her own conclusions. May the Lord grant each of us the will to steer ourselves towards His Path. Ameen.

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Again I say I strongly agree what u say, but again its ur responsibility to see whether the audience has respect for ur views or not, ur saving them from a smaller crime but due to their ignorance they end up committing a bigger mistake just like few pages back two guys were arguing about this topic n instead of reaching any conclusion one was disrespecting Islam altogether committing a bigger mistake than what he was doing before Now it was responsibility of the one using religious references to stop the debate n save his brother from a bigger sin


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Learn to control your emotions, people. Practice mutual respect towards each others beliefs and opinions and you're good to go. Because the only alternative would be to lock this thread down.

We were having a good time earlier in the day before the usual suspects came in. @lifeinabucket Has your question been answered?
My question was answered by 10th page of the thread.

The rest of 15 pages are just for :tv:
 

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So this topic is messed-up now and i don't now what is going on and who is talking about what, but its better to change its title in to "what clothes you want to be wear by your GF" (as wife is kind a personal matter so ...) and we are good to go [MENTION=39471]Blastwave[/MENTION] .
 

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Umarried and people who have never been in a relationship shouldn't be posting here. The amount of influence women can have over your decisions can only be expressed by people who had been in a relationship.

Reading a few posts here, give you the idea of how much lack of experience there is among members in this regard. I have seen people with rigid views go total latto over a girl and lose all his self made morals and shit.
 

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Umarried and people who have never been in a relationship shouldn't be posting here. The amount of influence women can have over your decisions can only be expressed by people who had been in a relationship.

Reading a few posts here, give you the idea of how much lack of experience there is among members in this regard. I have seen people with rigid views go total latto over a girl and lose all his self made morals and shit.
Then why are you posting r3aper? :p
 

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Their is distinction between a wife and a GF.

GF = Potential mate
Wife = legitimate mate

I would consider Wife here.

When two people marry each other, it is important for both to define boundaries for their relationship. Both husband and wife may have expectations from each other and concerns about some matters which should be conveyed to each other. In short, compromises have to be reached in certain matters in any relationship.

In case of Islamic nikah, husband have the responsibility for "protecting" his family from societal evils. He have the right to dictate his wife about do's and dont's of a relationship as per Islamic values, I think that same is true for wife as well. Purpose of dictation is not abuse the spouse but to protect the spouse from societal evils.

Realistically, some level of dictation occurs frequently in a marriage from either individual, husband or wife, on various matters. So no need to overthink about this and become a pacifist.

Women do not appreciate pacifists.
lagta hai 10 saal hogaye shadi ko :p
 

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When are we going to stop confusing modesty with the hijab and piety with the beard?

We've all seen the burqa-clad awam sitting in public parks with their hands out of sight. Why do we confuse culture and religion and believe that we're an authority on all things Islam whereas we're one of the most jahil people to ever live on this planet?
 

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No, because I guess every woman knows how to dress sensibly. Either way, you just can't force anyone to do what you want.

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When are we going to stop confusing modesty with the hijab and piety with the beard?

We've all seen the burqa-clad awam sitting in public parks with their hands out of sight. Why do we confuse culture and religion and believe that we're an authority on all things Islam whereas we're one of the most jahil people to ever live on this planet?
And THIS. ^
 
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