Want To Buy Is 4k gaming monitor good for PS5 or a higher refresh rate one ?

[FlAmEsWoRd]

I tried to find gaming monitors which are both 4k and higher refresh rate but couldn't find any. A monitor which is 4k is max 60hz and a higher refresh rate monitor isn't 4k. Which will be a better choice for PS5 ? 4K or Higher refresh rate?

 

[iampasha]

For PS5 definitely 4k/60fps

 

[Major Aly]

4K/60fps with definite HDR support.

 

[Simonsayz]

I tried to find gaming monitors which are both 4k and higher refresh rate but couldn't find any. A monitor which is 4k is max 60hz and a higher refresh rate monitor isn't 4k.

So you are looking for a 4K monitor that can do 120Hz or 144Hz, they do exist but at a cost, but is it worth it? The whole concept of console gaming is to have acceptable gaming on relatively cheap. So, the amount of money you will spend to have a display (TV or Monitor) that is 4K120, would only disappoint you when you see the results.

Now if 4K120 would have been cheap (relative to price of PS5), I would have recommended you to dive in, no problem, but it's not mainstream yet. If you are an enthusiast to whom money doesn't matter, then you should go PC route first, then get an appropriate monitor like the Gigabyte AORUS FV43U or LG 27GN950 (also in 38") or ASUS ROG Swift PG32UQX or ACER XV282K or similar.

Otherwise get a 4K HDR TV with low input lag, the ping on any multiplayer game that you play here in Pakistan is already disadvantageous enough that you won't feel any difference between a 17ms TV or a 1ms monitor. TVs are a bit versatile, cheaper, better HDR but higher input lag than monitors. You can get a UHD (4K) TV that has 1080p 120Hz mode, or a UHD TV that has a 1080p 144hz mode or a UHD that has 2160p 120Hz mode.

Best Gaming TVs For The PS5 And Xbox Series X (2020) (by RTINGS.COM)
https://youtu.be/XwfOPQVgRu8

Now that we've got answers to your question, lets address the whole 4K gaming debate, that too on a Console. Higher resolution makes graphics sharper & crisp. The need to increase resolution came as TVs/Monitors screens started to get bigger. We needed to increase resolution on a bigger screen in order to have same PPI (Pixels Per Inch). We need higher resolution when we increase the screen size or decrease the viewing distance. How much screen size and viewing distance affects our ability to actually discern the higher resolution:

4K Gaming is Dumb (by Linus Tech Tips)
https://youtu.be/ehvz3iN8pp4

4K gaming on AAA demanding titles is already tough for most powerful PCs, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. The whole reason for going 4k (3840x2160) resolution is to get sharper textures, crisp graphics, higher detail. But if you need to lower the graphic settings in order to get the game to run decent frames at 4K, then it doesn't make sense. There is already a visible difference in games between PC & Consoles (and between PS5 & Xbox Series X itself) where there is less crowd, less grass, less scene population etc on consoles. PS5 dips below 60FPS running Cyberpunk2077 on "Performance Mode" at 4K, PS5 does not even offer Quality Mode on Cyberpunk2077, while Xbox Series X has a Quality for Cyberpunk2077 at 4K but locks FPS at 30.

Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S - A Huge Improvement Over Last-Gen Consoles (by Digital Foundry)
https://youtu.be/l0aZocGxy3I

On a side note, Ray Tracing is also such a marketing gimmick like 4K gaming which is not ready for prime time yet. The hardware has not caught up to these technologies yet. Enabling Ray Tracing on consoles, NONE of the AAA titles run natively at 4K, most are being rendered at much lower resolution, lower than 1080p even, then upscaled to 4K and besides having lower graphic settings like less objects populating the scene etc.

COD Black Ops Cold War: PS5 vs Xbox Series X - Ray Tracing, 120Hz Mode Tests + Series S Analysis! (by Digital Foundry)
https://youtu.be/RnZAN91pUiw

On PC, if you turn RTX ON for Eye Candy, it almost cuts the FPS in half, then you have to DLSS ON to get back those FPS but now the game is rendered at a much lower resolution and then upscaled by AI, so it's not that sharp, and it brings the whole reason of turning on Eye Candy to a moot. It's the same on consoles.

Which will be a better choice for PS5 ? 4K or Higher refresh rate?

Back to the topic of Resolution Vs Frame rates Vs Eye Candy. Higher FPS makes for a buttery smooth experience especially in a shooting game. There is a pretty discernable difference going from 60 to 120Hz, and 144Hz just sweetens it further. As gamers we always try get the max resolution & frame rate out of the game by first lowering the settings for Anti Aliasing / Lighting / Shadows / Reflections / Environmental Details / Ambient Occlusion / Motion Blur settings etc, before we lower any Texture Resolution / Model Details etc.

TVs don't have Display Port and during HDMI 2.0b days they were limited by bandwidth of 18Gbps, unlike HDMI 2.1's 48 Gbps. While an HDMI 2.0b TV would have a 120Hz panel, it would only do 1080p/120Hz or 1440p/120Hz but not 2160p/120Hz, rather cap at 2160p/60Hz, that too without HDR, with HDR data the max an HDMI 2.0b can do is 4K30Hz. With HDMI 2.1 though, TVs can do 4K/120 with HDR. On the monitors' side, a monitor is either 60, 120, 144 or 165 Hz on ALL resolutions. So if you get a 4K60Hz monitor it won't do 120Hz on a lower resolution, that is a 60Hz monitor, period.

I would suggest get a 4K TV that can do 120Hz on 1080p or 1440p as well and go for a decent HDR display for PS5. If size / viewing distance is an issue, only then go for a monitor.

Anyways, bottom line is, chasing the technology will get you bankrupt, be smart about what actually matters and at what cost.

 

[FlAmEsWoRd]

So you are looking for a 4K monitor that can do 120Hz or 144Hz, they do exist but at a cost, but is it worth it? The whole concept of console gaming is to have acceptable gaming on relatively cheap. So, the amount of money you will spend to have a display (TV or Monitor) that is 4K120, would only disappoint you when you see the results.

Now if 4K120 would have been cheap (relative to price of PS5), I would have recommended you to dive in, no problem, but it's not mainstream yet. If you are an enthusiast to whom money doesn't matter, then you should go PC route first, then get an appropriate monitor like the Gigabyte AORUS FV43U or LG 27GN950 (also in 38") or ASUS ROG Swift PG32UQX or ACER XV282K or similar.

Otherwise get a 4K HDR TV with low input lag, the ping on any multiplayer game that you play here in Pakistan is already disadvantageous enough that you won't feel any difference between a 17ms TV or a 1ms monitor. TVs are a bit versatile, cheaper, better HDR but higher input lag than monitors. You can get a UHD (4K) TV that has 1080p 120Hz mode, or a UHD TV that has a 1080p 144hz mode or a UHD that has 2160p 120Hz mode.

https://youtu.be/XwfOPQVgRu8

Now that we've got answers to your question, lets address the whole 4K gaming debate, that too on a Console. Higher resolution makes graphics sharper & crisp. The need to increase resolution came as TVs/Monitors screens started to get bigger. We needed to increase resolution on a bigger screen in order to have same PPI (Pixels Per Inch). We need higher resolution when we increase the screen size or decrease the viewing distance. How much screen size and viewing distance affects our ability to actually discern the higher resolution:

https://youtu.be/ehvz3iN8pp4

4K gaming on AAA demanding titles is already tough for most powerful PCs, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. The whole reason for going 4k (3840x2160) resolution is to get sharper textures, crisp graphics, higher detail. But if you need to lower the graphic settings in order to get the game to run decent frames at 4K, then it doesn't make sense. There is already a visible difference in games between PC & Consoles (and between PS5 & Xbox Series X itself) where there is less crowd, less grass, less scene population etc on consoles. PS5 dips below 60FPS running Cyberpunk2077 on "Performance Mode" at 4K, PS5 does not even offer Quality Mode on Cyberpunk2077, while Xbox Series X has a Quality for Cyberpunk2077 at 4K but locks FPS at 30.

https://youtu.be/l0aZocGxy3I

On a side note, Ray Tracing is also such a marketing gimmick like 4K gaming which is not ready for prime time yet. The hardware has not caught up to these technologies yet. Enabling Ray Tracing on consoles, NONE of the AAA titles run natively at 4K, most are being rendered at much lower resolution, lower than 1080p even, then upscaled to 4K and besides having lower graphic settings like less objects populating the scene etc.

https://youtu.be/RnZAN91pUiw

On PC, if you turn RTX ON for Eye Candy, it almost cuts the FPS in half, then you have to DLSS ON to get back those FPS but now the game is rendered at a much lower resolution and then upscaled by AI, so it's not that sharp, and it brings the whole reason of turning on Eye Candy to a moot. It's the same on consoles.



Back to the topic of Resolution Vs Frame rates Vs Eye Candy. Higher FPS makes for a buttery smooth experience especially in a shooting game. There is a pretty discernable difference going from 60 to 120Hz, and 144Hz just sweetens it further. As gamers we always try get the max resolution & frame rate out of the game by first lowering the settings for Anti Aliasing / Lighting / Shadows / Reflections / Environmental Details / Ambient Occlusion / Motion Blur settings etc, before we lower any Texture Resolution / Model Details etc.

I would suggest get a 4K monitor/TV that can do 120/144Hz on 1080p/1440p as well and go for a decent HDR display fro PS5.

Anyways, bottom line is, chasing the technology will get you bankrupt, be smart about what actually matters and at what cost.

I can't get a tv because the distance between me and my led is not much. Sometimes I feel like a 27 inch led is a little more to me because of the distance between me and my led but still 27 inch is fine, something more than 27 inch would be too big for me. And you are absolutely right about chasing the right technology will get me bankrupt. My max budget is 70 k and I'm thinking of going for this : Asus VG289Q

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Do I have a Better option than this Asus tuf monitor or is this the best one ? Or should I wait a month or two to get a more better monitor in the range of 70k?

 

[Simonsayz]

I can't get a tv because the distance between me and my led is not much.

27 inch is fine, something more than 27 inch would be too big for me.

My max budget is 70 k

I'm thinking of going for this : Asus VG289Q

TUF Gaming VG289Q - Tech Specs｜Monitors｜ASUS Global

TUF Gaming VG289Q – Moniteur gaming avec dalle IPS Ultra HD 4K de 28’’ (3840x2160), DCI-P3, Adaptive-Sync, FreeSync™ et HDR 10

www.asus.com

ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q Gaming Monitor – 28 inch UHD 4K (3840x2160), IPS, DCI-P3 , Adaptive-Sync, FreeSync™, HDR 10

Shop from a wide range of Computer Gaming LED Monitors from zahcomputers.pk featuring upto 4K Resolution, 144hz, IPS, Ultrawide, OLED, Used and new monitors

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Do I have a Better option than this Asus tuf monitor or is this the best one ? Or should I wait a month or two to get a more better monitor in the range of 70k?

Ok, so even a 32" TV is out of question then, and now your only option is to get a monitor. With 4K 120Hz monitors out of your budget and with PS5 not supporting 1440p resolution, your choices are either get a 4K60Hz monitor or get a 1080p120Hz monitor.

While 120Hz is great in shooting games, 4K HDR on PS5 would appeal more on a vast variety of non-shooting games / content consumption. As far as ASUS TUF VG289Q goes, apart from it's low HDR brightness of only 350cd/㎡ (which is fair at this price point) I don't think you can fit a better monitor in your budget unless you get a good deal on a used monitor.

 

[randomgamer]

I would opt for 2k with higher refresh rate (2k/144). Much better than 4k/30.

 

[Simonsayz]

I would opt for 2k with higher refresh rate (2k/144). Much better than 4k/30.

with PS5 not supporting 1440p resolution, your choices are either get a 4K60Hz monitor or get a 1080p120Hz monitor.

Unlike the Xbox Series X, PlayStation 5 does NOT support 1440p resolution, while NO console support 144Hz, Xbox Series X only supports 1440p at 120Hz. For PS5, it is either 1080p 120Hz or 4K 60Hz.

 

[randomgamer]

Unlike the Xbox Series X, PlayStation 5 does NOT support 1440p resolution, while NO console support 144Hz, Xbox Series X only supports 1440p at 120Hz. For PS5, it is either 1080p 120Hz or 4K 60Hz.

Understood, I would honestly go for 1080p gaming monitor 144hz in that case (Haven't seen any monitors with 120 hz) specially if the target games are competitive shooters (e.g Fortnite, Valorant).

 

[Chandoo]

If you mostly play single player games, 4K/60 all the way.

Only a handful of games have 120hz support on the new consoles and even then its either only MP modes or with severely reduced image quality.